PAINT CODE

Gary

Rick Denney just went through that same color. Find the thread subject
" Touch-up spray paint " in early or mid december. I think that will answer
all your questions including a source for the paint. There is a later thread
" Potential paint screw-up? " in january and you'll have to ask Rick how
that turned out.

john harper

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Worobec"

> Hi,
> Does anyone have the GM paint code for the light blue used on a 73
> Glacier. "D-50" seems to come to mind for some reason.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary Worobec
> Anza, CA
> 1973 23' Glacier

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Oh ya, now I remember I even put that information in one of the photos in an
album of mine. You can cut and paste it

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/gallery/showpic.php?aid=1467&uuid=jharper&pid=16874

john harper

----- Original Message -----
From: "j harper"
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Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [gmclist] PAINT CODE

> Gary
>
> Rick Denney just went through that same color. Find the thread subject
> " Touch-up spray paint " in early or mid december. I think that will
> answer all your questions including a source for the paint. There is a
> later thread " Potential paint screw-up? " in january and you'll have to
> ask Rick how that turned out.
>
> john harper
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Worobec"
>
>> Hi,
>> Does anyone have the GM paint code for the light blue used on a 73
>> Glacier. "D-50" seems to come to mind for some reason.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Gary Worobec
>> Anza, CA
>> 1973 23' Glacier
>
>
>
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:39:29 -0800 "Gary Worobec"
writes:
> Hi,
> Does anyone have the GM paint code for the light blue used on a 73
> Glacier.
> "D-50" seems to come to mind for some reason.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary Worobec
> Anza, CA
> 1973 23' Glacier
>
>
Gary, it is called Sky Blue and the Ditzler # is 14676 or Fisher #
WEA-5228

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j harper writes...

> Rick Denney just went through that same color. Find the thread
> subject " Touch-up spray paint " in early or mid december. I think
> that will answer all your questions including a source for the
> paint. There is a later thread " Potential paint screw-up? " in
> january and you'll have to ask Rick how that turned out.

It's PPG paint code 14676, which is called "medium blue" and other
names depending on the GM marque where it was used. Most of them don't
start listing it until 1974, however. I think the GMC had it first.
The OEM code may be 259, 554, or WE5228--all the same stuff.

Go to PPGCarPaint.com, and seach by PPG code. You'll then have four
choices of paints in that color. The "Original fast-dry acrylic-based
lacquer" is a single-stage paint good for touching up, though it is
lacquer and therefore hard and brittle. It will crack if you put it
over soft stuff, and if the paint under it isn't fully cured (which
may take some enamels years to do) it will bubble. But they sell it in
spray cans, and you can polish it out. This is what I bought before I
knew how much trouble it might be spraying lacquer over an unknown
paint.

They also have the "fast-drying acrylic enamel", which is also
available in spray cans. That's what I SHOULD have bought. I might
even consider my hundred bucks on the lacquer a lesson learned and
order this stuff. Enamel can be applied over anything.

They also sell something like PPG MBC, which is a cheapie color coat
that requires a clear coat to shine. And they have a two-part
polyurethane which should be a good choice if you are doing a
permanent, professional paint job.

Rick "who was looking for something cheap and temporary, pending
professional paint" Denney

'73 230 Ex-Glacier "Jaws"
Northern Virginia

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David L Greenberg writes...

> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:39:29 -0800 "Gary Worobec"

>> Hi,
>> Does anyone have the GM paint code for the light blue used on a 73
>> Glacier.
>> "D-50" seems to come to mind for some reason.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Gary Worobec
>> Anza, CA
>> 1973 23' Glacier
>>
>>
> Gary, it is called Sky Blue and the Ditzler # is 14676 or Fisher #
> WEA-5228

Just a hint: I was utterly unsuccessful finding it listed as "Sky
Blue" in any of the paint-code crossover listings. Apparently, that
color designation was used only on the motorhome, and as we know, all
references to the motorhome in the various make/model databases are no
longer there. They called the same color different names on different
cars and trucks.

And Ditzler is now owned by PPG, so the Ditzler number is now a PPG
number. It's hard to find if you look for it as a Ditzler number.

Maybe paint shops have better cross-reference capabilities than what
is on the Internet.

Rick "down this road recently" Denney

'73 230 Ex-Glacier "Jaws"
Northern Virginia

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On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:58:23 -0500 Rick Denney
writes:
> David L Greenberg writes...
>

> >>
> >>
> > Gary, it is called Sky Blue and the Ditzler # is 14676 or Fisher
> #
> > WEA-5228
>
> Just a hint: I was utterly unsuccessful finding it listed as "Sky
> Blue" in any of the paint-code crossover listings. Apparently, that
> color designation was used only on the motorhome, and as we know,
> all
> references to the motorhome in the various make/model databases are
> no
> longer there. They called the same color different names on
> different
> cars and trucks.
>
> And Ditzler is now owned by PPG, so the Ditzler number is now a PPG
> number. It's hard to find if you look for it as a Ditzler number.
>
> Maybe paint shops have better cross-reference capabilities than
> what
> is on the Internet.
>

Just passing on the OEM info. As, you found, you have to do your own
legwork.

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Gary,
If you're going to repaint the entire coach, which I recommend
because you will never match the old faded paint, just take a panel to
a local auto body supply shop and have them match the color in the
newer base coat/clear coat paints. It will look exactly like
original, ony shinier. I have done this on numerous restos of 70's GM
cars and it is hard to tell where the new meets the old in places that
don't get worn or weathered. (Cowl, door jambs etc.) They can mix
any color and leave you enough for future owies and touch ups. I can
show you some examples if you wish.

> Hi,
> Does anyone have the GM paint code for the light blue used on a 73 Glacier.
> "D-50" seems to come to mind for some reason.

--
Steve Ferguson
'76 EII
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Hi, Yes I'm doing the entire top half of the coach in the existing Glacier
original Sky Blue and then the bottom below the beltline in Navy Blue. By
the way, you were right on as far as clear coat. The guys leave the base
coat for an hour and then shoot the clear I guess when the base is just
starting to cure. The painter uses Sherwin Williams but there is a PPG store
real close so we are going to go up there and talk to them. Hopefully get a
pretty close match to the exisiting Ditzler Sky Blue. As you suggested I'm
going to leave the gen access door, propane door and engine doors attached
so the spraying will be consistent. I can see that if they are removed you
might get a different spray pattern which could look funny.

Thanks,

Gary Worobec
Anza, CA
1973 23' Glacier

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Ferguson"
To: "gmclist"
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [gmclist] PAINT CODE

> Gary,
> If you're going to repaint the entire coach, which I recommend
> because you will never match the old faded paint, just take a panel to
> a local auto body supply shop and have them match the color in the
> newer base coat/clear coat paints. It will look exactly like
> original, ony shinier.

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Steven Ferguson writes...

> If you're going to repaint the entire coach, which I recommend
> because you will never match the old faded paint, just take a panel
> to a local auto body supply shop and have them match the color in
> the newer base coat/clear coat paints. It will look exactly like
> original, ony shinier. I have done this on numerous restos of 70's
> GM cars and it is hard to tell where the new meets the old in places
> that don't get worn or weathered. (Cowl, door jambs etc.) They can
> mix any color and leave you enough for future owies and touch ups.
> I can show you some examples if you wish.

I love California, where restoring cars is a well-supported activity.
Here in Virginia, they are happy to mix and match paint--for their own
use. Nobody will sell automotive paint to a guy off the street.
They'll be glad to apply it for you. Get your checkbook. Except--so
sorry!--they don't have a booth big enough.

So, for me, the choice is bite the bullet for new paint now and drive
it to the midwest or somewhere where they still know how to do things
in the three-dimensional world, or (once again) order something close
enough from the Internet and make do.

Rick "who doesn't care if it isn't a perfect match" Denney

'73 230 Ex-Glacier "Jaws"
Northern Virginia

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Rick,
My theory is that if you are goint to go to all that effort, why not
do it right. The whole idea of cosmetic repairs is to make the
vehicle look good.
CA is only a good place for hot rod work if you have good neighbors.
The eco-Nazis are everywhere.
That is one of the reasons I got the heck out of there.

So, for me, the choice is bite the bullet for new paint now and drive
it to the midwest or somewhere where they still know how to do things
in the three-dimensional world, or (once again) order something close
enough from the Internet and make do.

Rick "who doesn't care if it isn't a perfect match" Denney

'73 230 Ex-Glacier "Jaws"
Northern Virginia

Steve Ferguson
"76 EII
Sierra Vista, AZ
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Steven Ferguson writes...

> Rick, My theory is that if you are goint to go to all that effort,
> why not do it right. The whole idea of cosmetic repairs is to make
> the vehicle look good.

I don't disagree, but I have to be practical. The great is the enemy
of the good. My requirements, for this year, are not to make the
vehicle look good from up close, but to make it look acceptable from
the front counter through the front window of an RV-park office. The
new Sky Blue might be a bit brighter than what's on the coach, but it
isn't nearly as bright as the white that is now the back end.

And, no, I cannot possibly afford many thousands for a paint job right
now. I'm still swallowing other expenses, like brand new Eagle wheels
from Jim K., and a new set of tires on the way.

Rick "noting that parts of the coach have already been repainted--by
someone--before" Denney

'73 230 Ex-Glacier "Jaws"
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> I heard that :) we prefer the term "conservationists"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven Ferguson"
> > The eco-Nazis are everywhere.
> > Steve Ferguson

Okay, you Conservative nasty. ;)
"does not use n-words anymore"

--
Hardie Johnson "Crashj"
1973 26 foot Glacier, White Thing
Enola PA

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Rick "who doesn't care if it isn't a perfect match" Denney

Hmmmm, so how would you go about painting, spray cans??? With my current budget, thats the only way my GMC will see any paint for the next year or so.

I am assuming (uh huh) you are just "touching up" the rear cap of the GMC???

Why is it, I am getting this vision similar to the apes at the zoo with the colorful, errr, backsides..... :lol:
--
LarC
74 GLACIER 260/455/APC/4 bagg'r(ver3)
http://www.gmccoop.com/4_air_bag_install.htm
_______________________________________________
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She has that unique one-of-a-kind design, SWEET!
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Larry writes...

> Hmmmm, so how would you go about painting, spray cans??? With my
> current budget, thats the only way my GMC will see any paint for the
> next year or so.

> I am assuming (uh huh) you are just "touching up" the rear cap of the GMC???

I bought a coupla spray cans to have handy, and a quart of the
topcoat. I also bought a quart of reducer and a quart of
primer/surfacer, and now realize I need more reducer because the
primer needs to be cut 1:1.

The spray cans are for the little things, like the ugly bits around my
replaced side moldings, the patches where the upper refer vent used to
be, rusty mirror mounts, rivet heads, hatch patches, and so on.

I have a set of HVLP spray guns, but have never used them. I'm now
reading where my 2HP compressor won't be enough for them. Oh, well.

Even if my paint peels off, it couldn't look any worse than the Adobe
Posterior.

Rick "willing to spend acouplahunnert on paint that passes the 50-foot
test" Denney

'73 230 Ex-Glacier "Jaws"
Northern Virginia

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