out of hibernation

The book says to put jumper cables positive on the post on the firewall and negative to frame at lower radiator support.
Aftermarket switches are to protect batteries from small drains during storage.

> Thanks Matt,
>
> I feel like there's a lot to worry about...
>
> One more question, my chassis battery has terminals on the sides only, I was going to hook up a charger but there are no posts to hook on.
> There's no reason I can't hook onto the round battery switch next to it, right? the switch I'm talking about has a mechanical lever where I can
> shut off the battery, it's not easy to turn. Is there another purpose of this? Should I take a photo or does everyone have this?
>
> -kelly

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Thank you Ken for the fast answer!

cheers
kelly
1978 Kingsley
Putney VT

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1978 Kingsley
Putney VT
 
Well, I did my first oil change. It was upper 50s and snow is melting on the west side of it so it was pretty damp (not quite a puddle).
the filter didn't come off, back to the store to get a cup to remove it, it didn't fit the filter on the GMC (it spun) so I put electrical tape around
the old filter and it came off- promptly rolling out of reach. Phone a friend suggested the tape trick.

The second trip to the store gave it plenty of time to drain. The oil was really dark and thick.

Put 3 quarts in it, will add more tomorrow- I want to make sure it doesn't leak. I hand tightened the new filter as tight as I could with the angle
etc.

You can get lithium grease (or whatever coats the front end) out of your hair.

I got ATF, is the trans fill/ dip stick on the driver's side of the engine compartment? Where does the power steering fluid go? Brake fluid, I
understand.

I got a grease gun and grease, will try that out tomorrow during the 1" of rain we're getting. At least it will dilute the oil I spilled

kelly
1978 Kingsley
Putney VT

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> Well, I did my first oil change. It was upper 50s and snow is melting on the west side of it so it was pretty damp (not quite a puddle).
> the filter didn't come off, back to the store to get a cup to remove it, it didn't fit the filter on the GMC (it spun) so I put electrical tape
> around the old filter and it came off- promptly rolling out of reach. Phone a friend suggested the tape trick.
>
> The second trip to the store gave it plenty of time to drain. The oil was really dark and thick.
>
> Put 3 quarts in it, will add more tomorrow- I want to make sure it doesn't leak. I hand tightened the new filter as tight as I could with the
> angle etc.
>
> You can get lithium grease (or whatever coats the front end) out of your hair.
>
>
> I got ATF, is the trans fill/ dip stick on the driver's side of the engine compartment? Where does the power steering fluid go? Brake fluid, I
> understand.
>
> I got a grease gun and grease, will try that out tomorrow during the 1" of rain we're getting. At least it will dilute the oil I spilled
>
>
> kelly
> 1978 Kingsley
> Putney VT

Kelly,

I admire your effort to get this all done and done right.

You got a grease gun, that is good and wish you luck at getting it on all the ~14 fittings in the front. It is important to wipe the fittings before
you jam the coupler on there. If you do not, you will push a small amount of crud that is trapped in the old grease right into the loaded area.
Count while you are doing the grease job. My coach has 14 grease fittings in the front. That can vary and it does include the two on the steering
shaft.

Yes, the ATF fill on most coaches is there under the engine cover on the left as you look in. Remember that the engine should be idling in neutral
when you check it. If the coach has been sitting a while, shift it through all the gears before you check the level.

Power steering fluid goes into a reservoir under a cap on the front of the engine. You will want your belly board. The cap has a level stick
attached with HOT and COLD marks on it.

Even guys get grease in their hair, and any good shampoo will get it out. (Sometime ask Mary about dipping her ponytail in drained oil.)

It is a good practice to not do a partial fill as someone thinking that the lube oil have been refilled might start the engine.

The cap type oil filter wrenches are seldom successful for me. I probably have a half dozen because they look like a good idea. They are at best
poor at the job unless the vehicle is on a lift and even then. I prefer the kind that have a strap of fabric or metal that you can arrange to get
tighter when you turn the driving wrench.

Do not miss the grease fittings back at the bogie pivots. There are at least four and maybe eight there. The service matrix calls for grease there
every 3000 miles. I try to grease mine every 1000 because I am paranoid and grease (even the expensive stuff I buy) is still cheaper than parts.

You Go Girl.....

Matt
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pouring rain all day so i did the inside stuff.

wipe out all cabinets, wipe all surfaces with lysol, vacuum, made the bed, looked for mouse homes (none).

I had to re power the CAT heater (my furnace was removed two owners ago), the old power came across the floor form where the original furnace was but
when the carpet came out I cut the wires. Right now I'm tapped into the power that goes to the fridge. I hope that's OK, I don't know how many amps
it draws though the installation guide says it should get it's own circuit, it has a circuit board and a small fan. The fridge doesn't draw much when
running on propane (2 way fridge not 3).

Also I had removed the upper cabinets on the passenger side last fall and today I tried to hook up a disconnect for the power for my lamp, no power
coming out of the disconnect so I'm back to wire nuts for now. Not sure what the deal is (and my soldering skills suck though I do have the crappies
solder iron you can buy).

Tomorrow all the fluids, I only had 4qts after the change of oil so I need to get more oil to top it off, figuring out the grease gun (the rear bogies
are simple and obvious, not sure about the rest of the front end), tire pressures tire lugs, blow up the bags and get it off the blocks, fill water
tank, put the new plug/anode in the water heater etc

-kelly

--
1978 Kingsley
Putney VT
 
Grease guns, gross, fun and strangely enough hard work (now I'm not laughing at the pneumatic gun I saw advertised online)

I only did the 8 fittings in the back for now, had to watch youtube to figure out how to load the gun. went until goo came out, I need to look up
what the hell I'm lubricating, because I don't know that I understand it.

The driver's side was really hard, lots of grease came out the hookup and I got some crackling noise (air?). I'm going to hit it again tomorrow. I
finally got goo to come out the front but not really the back.

I should have lowered it off the blocks first, now I have to avoid all the fresh grease reaching in and around tomorrow...

Tomorrow I'll look for the front end fittings. How long should a tube last? I feel like I used a lot, not all of it where it should go

that's it for tonight
kelly
--
1978 Kingsley
Putney VT
 
tired of me yet?

Still not getting any grease out when I pump into the lower zerk fitting on the driver's side rear. Got plenty out the top.

Topped off the oil, put some cardboard underneath, finished charging the battery (on a 2amp charge), got it off blocks, checked brake fluid (full),
started it up- and after 20-30 seconds of the starter cranking it started right up, stalled, started up again, stalled, started up again and I gave it
more gas and held the gas in a bit. It stayed running till I turned it off idling nicely.

Oil gauge reads high 3/4, slowly dropped a bit, i'll keep an eye on it. No oil on the cardboard so I didn't cause any leaks.

ATF and steering fluid is next, will take it down the road and gas it up (the gas light is on!)

kelly
--
1978 Kingsley
Putney VT
 
With the amount of tine it has been sitting you might want to add a fuel filter in the line going into the fuel pump. There is a hose 5/16" or 3/8"
there that you cut in half and insert the filter there. I do not have the part number in front of me, but Jim K. has a good number for a large one
that you can get locally and install in less than 10 minutes. It would be good protection from getting junk into the mechanical pump, carb fuel
filer, and carb itself.

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76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
Ken's advice is excellent.

It's a 3/8" line and make sure you install a METAL cased filter NOT PLASTIC!

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
USAussie - Downunder
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USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808


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With the amount of tine it has been sitting you might want to add a fuel
filter in the line going into the fuel pump. There is a hose 5/16" or 3/8"
there that you cut in half and insert the filter there. I do not have the
part number in front of me, but Jim K. has a good number for a large one
that you can get locally and install in less than 10 minutes. It would be
good protection from getting junk into the mechanical pump, carb fuel
filer, and carb itself.

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From what you have written I believe you have bogie greasers in the ends of
the bogie pins and one of them is clogged. Unscrew the whole greaser and get
a handful of straws from McDonalds. Insert the straw and it will fill with
grease it is probable that you've got some dried out grease in the pin and
that will get it out.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808


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Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 11:49 AM
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tired of me yet?

Still not getting any grease out when I pump into the lower zerk fitting on
the driver's side rear. Got plenty out the top.

Topped off the oil, put some cardboard underneath, finished charging the
battery (on a 2amp charge), got it off blocks, checked brake fluid (full),
started it up- and after 20-30 seconds of the starter cranking it started
right up, stalled, started up again, stalled, started up again and I gave it
more gas and held the gas in a bit. It stayed running till I turned it off
idling nicely.

Oil gauge reads high 3/4, slowly dropped a bit, i'll keep an eye on it. No
oil on the cardboard so I didn't cause any leaks.

ATF and steering fluid is next, will take it down the road and gas it up
(the gas light is on!)

kelly
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Read here
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/bogie-greaser-mod-3/p6222.html

> From what you have written I believe you have bogie greasers in the ends of
> the bogie pins and one of them is clogged. Unscrew the whole greaser and
> get
> a handful of straws from McDonalds. Insert the straw and it will fill with
> grease it is probable that you've got some dried out grease in the pin and
> that will get it out.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of kelly
> stockwell
> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 11:49 AM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] out of hibernation
>
> tired of me yet?
>
> Still not getting any grease out when I pump into the lower zerk fitting on
> the driver's side rear. Got plenty out the top.
>
> Topped off the oil, put some cardboard underneath, finished charging the
> battery (on a 2amp charge), got it off blocks, checked brake fluid (full),
> started it up- and after 20-30 seconds of the starter cranking it started
> right up, stalled, started up again, stalled, started up again and I gave
> it
> more gas and held the gas in a bit. It stayed running till I turned it off
> idling nicely.
>
> Oil gauge reads high 3/4, slowly dropped a bit, i'll keep an eye on it. No
> oil on the cardboard so I didn't cause any leaks.
>
> ATF and steering fluid is next, will take it down the road and gas it up
> (the gas light is on!)
>
> kelly
> --
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> Putney VT
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I looked on my computer and I can not find that part number. I have bought several of them in the past for coaches that I was transporting. They are
3/8" in and out and bout 3" in diameter. They hare available from Wix, Napa, Car Quest, and Purolator. I think I also bought one from AutoZone but I
do not remember the brand on it.

Call Jim K and ask. He stocks them.
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Kelly
Your maintenance manual gives an illustration where the grease zerks are.
Click on the blue highlighted number for the year of your coach.
http://www.bdub.net/factory-manuals.html

1st section
General Information
Periodic Maintenance
and Lubrication

Section 0 page 15

> I looked on my computer and I can not find that part number. I have
> bought several of them in the past for coaches that I was transporting.
> They are
> 3/8" in and out and bout 3" in diameter. They hare available from Wix,
> Napa, Car Quest, and Purolator. I think I also bought one from AutoZone
> but I
> do not remember the brand on it.
>
> Call Jim K and ask. He stocks them.
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> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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Thanks all!

I hope I'm set for this trip, I was a little low on power steering fluid, automatic transmission was fine
i had to cob together an angled air line (i have a 12v compressor, a real one is in the future for me)

I'll hit the rest of the zerk fittings and check out what's up with the rear one when i get back. filled the tank (41 gallons, so it's all fresh)

Also thanks for the advice on the fuel filter, I know i have some thing up front, but I'm not sure what (small filter?) there's a spare that came with
the coach

any issues you know i'll holler

cheers
kelly
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1978 Kingsley
Putney VT
 
> I looked on my computer and I can not find that part number. I have bought several of them in the past for coaches that I was transporting. They
> are 3/8" in and out and bout 3" in diameter. They hare available from Wix, Napa, Car Quest, and Purolator. I think I also bought one from AutoZone
> but I do not remember the brand on it.
>
> Call Jim K and ask. He stocks them.

OK, I found the part number in Wix. All I had to do was do a search function on the GMC forum. You can cross reference it to whatever brand that you
like.

Wix
Part Number: 33161
UPC Number: 765809331617

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Hebron, Indiana
 
Kelly: There are just some of those little zerk fittings that have gotten to the pace where they will not take grease. You can buy replacements and replace them and hopefully that will solve your problem.

jofarr, soddy tn
74 canyonlands

Original message
From: "kelly stockwell"
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Dated: 4/5/2017 12:49:24 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] out of hibernation

tired of me yet?

Still not getting any grease out when I pump into the lower zerk fitting on the driver's side rear. Got plenty out the top.

Topped off the oil, put some cardboard underneath, finished charging the battery (on a 2amp charge), got it off blocks, checked brake fluid (full),
started it up- and after 20-30 seconds of the starter cranking it started right up, stalled, started up again, stalled, started up again and I gave it
more gas and held the gas in a bit. It stayed running till I turned it off idling nicely.

Oil gauge reads high 3/4, slowly dropped a bit, i'll keep an eye on it. No oil on the cardboard so I didn't cause any leaks.

ATF and steering fluid is next, will take it down the road and gas it up (the gas light is on!)

kelly
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Thank you for the part numbers. This is definitely something to do this spring (if there's not already a filter somewhere inline I missed)

I will also pull the zerk fittings from the rear end and clean them with a straw. I pumped grease into them, it certainly went somewhere. I feel
pretty good that the top half of all the bogies had new grease ooze out, just the lower area didn't. I might hit it again before I leave now that
I've gone down the road and back

-kelly
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Kelly, when the suspension is unloaded, like it would be when it is jacked
up under the bogie boxes, the pressure from the air bags forces the bogie
arms against the pins. To be anal about greasing the pins, one could
deflate the bags and use a shovel or other similar lever, and move the arms
while applying grease. I don't do it that way, but, there are several here
on the net who do and swear that is better to do it that way. To each their
own, I guess. I figure if you grease them often enough, grease will find
it's way around the pins on it's journey to your hands and shirt..
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403

Thank you for the part numbers. This is definitely something to do this
spring (if there's not already a filter somewhere inline I missed)

I will also pull the zerk fittings from the rear end and clean them with a
straw. I pumped grease into them, it certainly went somewhere. I feel
pretty good that the top half of all the bogies had new grease ooze out,
just the lower area didn't. I might hit it again before I leave now that
I've gone down the road and back

-kelly
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> Thank you for the part numbers. This is definitely something to do this spring (if there's not already a filter somewhere inline I missed)
>
> **SNIP**
>
> -kelly

My point was to get you to install a filter NOW before you drive it and run possibily contaminated fuel through the carb. Installing it later after
you have run fuel laced with rust and hose fragments through the carb will not help you much. These bare steel tanks and lines tend to rust and
deteriorate on the inside while sitting unused over the years. Spent 5 minutes now to install a filter vs. possibly hours of cleaning and rebuild
time later. It is your choice.
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76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
Ken,

As the old adage goes; "a picture is worth a thousand words"

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/aa-miscellaneous-photos/p54750-fuel-pump-i
nlet-filter.html

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808

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My point was to get you to install a filter NOW before you drive it and run
possibily contaminated fuel through the carb. Installing it later after
you have run fuel laced with rust and hose fragments through the carb will
not help you much. These bare steel tanks and lines tend to rust and
deteriorate on the inside while sitting unused over the years. Spent 5
minutes now to install a filter vs. possibly hours of cleaning and rebuild
time later. It is your choice.
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