Original Master Cylinder - How to identify?

jim curran

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Hi Folks,
Does anyone know how to determine if a master cylinder is original?

Also, when putting brake lines together should there be any kind of thread sealant or just metal to metal?

Thanks,
Jim

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Jim Curran
1976 Palm Beach
Alexandria, OH
 
I don’t know if there are markings on the master cylinder, and if you would be able to tell.

You can see if it’s an original type part.

Also, flared fitting create their own seal.

I have a power bleeding kit. Let me know if you want me to bring it by.

Dolph

DE N8JPC

Wheeling, West Virginia

1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010

“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"

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> Hi Folks,
> Does anyone know how to determine if a master cylinder is original?
>
> Also, when putting brake lines together should there be any kind of thread sealant or just metal to metal?
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
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> Jim Curran
> 1976 Palm Beach
> Alexandria, OH
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Jim,

The look of the stock brake master cylinder should be similar to this.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p59294-dl-brake-layout.html
and
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/OBH3/101534.oap?ck=Search_mc39075_-1_-1&keyword=mc39075

If you have a P30 brake master cylinder then it will look like this.

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/OBH3/101668.oap?ck=Search_m1668_-1_-1&keyword=m1668

Look at the 3 pictures under the main picture.

JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan

>
> Hi Folks,
> Does anyone know how to determine if a master cylinder is original?
>
> Also, when putting brake lines together should there be any kind of thread sealant or just metal to metal?
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
> --
> Jim Curran
> 1976 Palm Beach
> Alexandria, OH
 
> Hi Folks,
> Does anyone know how to determine if a master cylinder is original?
>
> Also, when putting brake lines together should there be any kind of thread sealant or just metal to metal?
>
> Thanks,
> Jim

Jim,

As a resident of a rust-belt state. Do yourself and the next owner a favor.
As you will be doing a flush and bleed with the master cylinder change, take the time to get new rubber caps for all the bleed screws (6). And while
you are messing with it, take each bleed screw out and clean it and wrap it with teflon tape. This is not for system sealing. It is to keep:
A - The road water from getting in to the threads of the bleed screw and corroding them, and
B - The brake fluid leaked during bleeding from getting in to the threads of the bleed screw and corroding them.
I started doing this about 30 years ago and have not broken a bleed screw that was so treated yet. (I was using pipe dope, but Chuck Boyd suggested
the teflon tape and it works even better.)

While the system sealing is all done by the flare, a coat of anti-seize or pipe dope on the line nut threads will simply make life easier for someone
else done the road.

Matt

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Matt & Mary Colie - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
'73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brake with Applied Control Arms
Now with both true Keyless and remote entry
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
 
Most brake fittings fit in a way to where you do not use sealants.
Should you have problems, you can use a flared copper washer to create a
better seal.

> Hi Folks,
> Does anyone know how to determine if a master cylinder is original?
>
> Also, when putting brake lines together should there be any kind of thread
> sealant or just metal to metal?
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
> --
> Jim Curran
> 1976 Palm Beach
> Alexandria, OH
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Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
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1-800-752-7502
 
Thanks for the pointers, guys.

Dolph your generosity never seems to end. Looking forward to showing you my paint job.


FWIW the only marks I can see now are on the left side, as the cylinder is mounted:

614003 or 614009.
LOTS of surface rust which is what has me wondering if it is original. In any case it is getting replaced.

Jim
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Jim Curran
1976 Palm Beach
Alexandria, OH
 
If you haven't already you may look to Dave Lenzi for a new Master, He machines the mounting ears so the nuts have enough threads to provide a proper
bite.

I got mine from him along with a sensitized booster and push rod and am very very happy with the results.

http://www.bdub.net/lenzi/
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77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy.
Mid Michigan