One Piece Wheel Bearing -Never mind !

[william hubert]

I have received an email resonse from Golby in which he states that
hisbearings are 5 piece just like we are used to. This contradicts 2
conversations with his parts guy who absolutely unequivocally insisted they
were single bearing assemblies. Thyis was despite my di8scussion that none
else had ever heard of them.
So it wasn't a hoax just plain old mis information

So now that issue is resolved, is Cinnibar the ONLY source of the RIGHT
wheel bearings ?

Bill Hubert

 

[thomas g. warner]

I have talked to and ordered gateways bearings which are properly marked.
We have no way of knowing however if they are selected so that they will
also provide the 20% extra safety margin. In the future I would buy from
cinnabar

>I have received an email resonse from Golby in which he states that
>hisbearings are 5 piece just like we are used to. This contradicts 2
>conversations with his parts guy who absolutely unequivocally insisted they
>were single bearing assemblies. Thyis was despite my di8scussion that none
>else had ever heard of them.
>So it wasn't a hoax just plain old mis information
>
>So now that issue is resolved, is Cinnibar the ONLY source of the RIGHT
>wheel bearings ?
>
>Bill Hubert
>
>
>
Tom & Marg Warner
Vernon Center NY
1976 palmbeach
"The beautiful Mohawk Vally"

 

[patrick flowers]

I've heard that Golby has experienced a high turnover rate lately.
Could be that this parts guy was new and didn't really have a clue(and
not adult enough to admit it) - probably thought "front wheel drive =
single sealed bearing". Wouldn't be the first time that someone drawing
on other front wheel drive experience screwed up with a GMC. Olds
dealers had the same problem back in the 70's.

Patrick

>
> I have received an email resonse from Golby in which he states that
> hisbearings are 5 piece just like we are used to. This contradicts 2
> conversations with his parts guy who absolutely unequivocally insisted they
> were single bearing assemblies. Thyis was despite my di8scussion that none
> else had ever heard of them.
> So it wasn't a hoax just plain old mis information
>
> So now that issue is resolved, is Cinnibar the ONLY source of the RIGHT
> wheel bearings ?
>
> Bill Hubert

 

[patrick flowers]

>
> I have talked to and ordered gateways bearings which are properly marked.
> We have no way of knowing however if they are selected so that they will
> also provide the 20% extra safety margin. In the future I would buy from
> cinnabar

I'm almost certain(almost because Timken will not verify it either way)
that the 20% margin comes from the additional axial clearance. There's
no way that Timken is selecting bearings from production lots for one
customer - it's legal and economic corporate suicide to do so. In
addition, all the bearings from the same production lot have the same
production specification, therefore they cannot from an engineering
standpoint have additional capacity unless it is related to the axial
clearance(the only variable). What Timken probably is doing is matching
spacers to bearing sets to get the desired .0095 axial clearance. So,
if you buy a Timken Set 23 with .0095 inch axial clearance from Gateway,
you've most likely purchased exactly the same product being sold by
Cinnabar.

Many moons ago, a GMCnetter emailed Timken asking if they were hand
selecting bearing sets for one customer and selling the rest to everyone
else. I told him that, legally there was no way that Timken could
respond and he would never hear from them. AFAIK, he never did.

My opinions,
Patrick
- --
Patrick Flowers
Mailtoatrick

The GMC Motorhome Page
http://www.gmcmotorhome.com

 

[thomas g. warner]

Patrick you are making a lot of assumptions. What if the cinnabar bearings
use a diffeent angle between the roller and the race such that the roller is
longer for the same bearing depth? Would not have to be much longer to get
20% more bearing load. Just a thought.

Note: manufacturers have different tolerances of bearings all the time. the
precision of the bearing is what dictates the price. I see nothing illegal
about selecting the best of everything. If my memory serves me right didn't
GMC do that????? They picked the best toronado engines and trannies, least
runnout accuride rims etc. Nothing has changed.

>>
>> I have talked to and ordered gateways bearings which are properly marked.
>> We have no way of knowing however if they are selected so that they will
>> also provide the 20% extra safety margin. In the future I would buy from
>> cinnabar
>
>I'm almost certain(almost because Timken will not verify it either way)
>that the 20% margin comes from the additional axial clearance. There's
>no way that Timken is selecting bearings from production lots for one
>customer - it's legal and economic corporate suicide to do so. In
>addition, all the bearings from the same production lot have the same
>production specification, therefore they cannot from an engineering
>standpoint have additional capacity unless it is related to the axial
>clearance(the only variable). What Timken probably is doing is matching
>spacers to bearing sets to get the desired .0095 axial clearance. So,
>if you buy a Timken Set 23 with .0095 inch axial clearance from Gateway,
>you've most likely purchased exactly the same product being sold by
>Cinnabar.
>
>Many moons ago, a GMCnetter emailed Timken asking if they were hand
>selecting bearing sets for one customer and selling the rest to everyone
>else. I told him that, legally there was no way that Timken could
>respond and he would never hear from them. AFAIK, he never did.
>
>My opinions,
>Patrick
>--
>Patrick Flowers
>Mailtoatrick
>
>The GMC Motorhome Page
>http://www.gmcmotorhome.com
>
>
Tom & Marg Warner
Vernon Center NY
1976 palmbeach
"The beautiful Mohawk Vally"

 

[william hubert]

Its more tha that. He Said it was prelubricated as it could not be
disassembled and would last 100,000 miles !

>
>> Could be that this parts guy was new and didn't really have a clue(and
>> not adult enough to admit it) - probably thought "front wheel drive =
>> single sealed bearing".
>
>PMFJI, BUT...
> From a parts person's viewpoint, it IS a single bearing, sealed in a
box.
>One box per wheel. (Unlike many cars that require two separate bearings per
>wheel. Oh, and many bearing manufacturers refer to a bearing + race package
>as a "set", just as our GMC front wheel bearing package is usually
labelled.)
> All too often parts people never see or know what's in the box.
> Not saying he's right, just human.
>
>Rick Staples
>'75 Eleganza
>Louisville, CO
>
>