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> Anyone know of or have any idea about a EFI for the Onan generator?
We did efi on the GMC's Onan. Video of start and run here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woA-BxJeTIk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woA-BxJeTIk
Yamaha and GM bits mixed with Crane and Megasquirt electronics most of it previously used stuff.
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Wally Anderson
Omaha NE
75 Glenbrook
Megasquirt III injection
Bob Stone hydroBOOOOST
Manny reaction arm system
Branscombe Kelsey Hayes park brake
http://wallyandsue.blogspot.com/
We did efi on the GMC's Onan. Video of start and run here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woA-BxJeTIk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woA-BxJeTIk
Yamaha and GM bits mixed with Crane and Megasquirt electronics most of it previously used stuff.
--
Wally Anderson
Omaha NE
75 Glenbrook
Megasquirt III injection
Bob Stone hydroBOOOOST
Manny reaction arm system
Branscombe Kelsey Hayes park brake
http://wallyandsue.blogspot.com/
Haven't heard of EFI, but dual fuel and propane only conversions are
available. They work very well when coupled with electronic ignition
conversions.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 11:43 AM Mike Hamm via Gmclist <
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> 1977 Kingsley 455 as stock as it gets except lots of Ragusa parts
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available. They work very well when coupled with electronic ignition
conversions.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 11:43 AM Mike Hamm via Gmclist <
> Anyone know of or have any idea about a EFI for the Onan generator?
> --
> 1977 Kingsley 455 as stock as it gets except lots of Ragusa parts
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Interesting but short video.
Any more information on the setup?
> > Anyone know of or have any idea about a EFI for the Onan generator?
>
> We did efi on the GMC's Onan. Video of start and run here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woA-BxJeTIk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woA-BxJeTIk
> Yamaha and GM bits mixed with Crane and Megasquirt electronics most of it previously used (battle proven) stuff.
--
1977 Kingsley 455 as stock as it gets except lots of Ragusa parts
Any more information on the setup?
> > Anyone know of or have any idea about a EFI for the Onan generator?
>
> We did efi on the GMC's Onan. Video of start and run here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woA-BxJeTIk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woA-BxJeTIk
> Yamaha and GM bits mixed with Crane and Megasquirt electronics most of it previously used (battle proven) stuff.
--
1977 Kingsley 455 as stock as it gets except lots of Ragusa parts
> Interesting but short video.
>
> Any more information on the setup?
>
> > > Anyone know of or have any idea about a EFI for the Onan generator?
> >
> > We did efi on the GMC's Onan. Video of start and run here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woA-BxJeTIk
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woA-BxJeTIk
> > Yamaha and GM bits mixed with Crane and Megasquirt electronics most of it previously used (battle proven) stuff.
I have 20 or so pages on our blog about the setup under Onan efi links. https://wallyandsue.blogspot.com/
Been messing with it for a few years and since we pretty much are stuck at home it got finished. Interesting fuel tune because it runs at 1,800 rpm or
off. It's running fixed timing from a battle proven Ford VR crank sensor. I'm using the original carb as a air valve with the choke fixed open and
throttle position sensor attached. The governor works exactly like before with the same linkage and valve.
--
Wally Anderson
Omaha NE
75 Glenbrook
Megasquirt III injection
Bob Stone hydroBOOOOST
Manny reaction arm system
Branscombe Kelsey Hayes park brake
http://wallyandsue.blogspot.com/
>
> Any more information on the setup?
>
> > > Anyone know of or have any idea about a EFI for the Onan generator?
> >
> > We did efi on the GMC's Onan. Video of start and run here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woA-BxJeTIk
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woA-BxJeTIk
> > Yamaha and GM bits mixed with Crane and Megasquirt electronics most of it previously used (battle proven) stuff.
I have 20 or so pages on our blog about the setup under Onan efi links. https://wallyandsue.blogspot.com/
Been messing with it for a few years and since we pretty much are stuck at home it got finished. Interesting fuel tune because it runs at 1,800 rpm or
off. It's running fixed timing from a battle proven Ford VR crank sensor. I'm using the original carb as a air valve with the choke fixed open and
throttle position sensor attached. The governor works exactly like before with the same linkage and valve.
--
Wally Anderson
Omaha NE
75 Glenbrook
Megasquirt III injection
Bob Stone hydroBOOOOST
Manny reaction arm system
Branscombe Kelsey Hayes park brake
http://wallyandsue.blogspot.com/
Why bother. It is extremely accurate the way it is, and absolutely anvil
reliable.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 5:12 PM Mike Hamm via Gmclist
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> Any plan,idea to make the governor electronic?
> --
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reliable.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 5:12 PM Mike Hamm via Gmclist
wrote:
> Any plan,idea to make the governor electronic?
> --
> 1977 Kingsley 455 as stock as it gets except lots of Ragusa parts
>
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The belt drive model (Forget the name) from Onan was offered carb or for another hundred injection. We put the injection ones in our new vehicles.
Instant start in all weather even if it hadn't been run in a month or so.
--johnny
--
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Instant start in all weather even if it hadn't been run in a month or so.
--johnny
--
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
I found this site with EFI kits for small engines. I don't know anything about this company or converting small engines to EFI.
I just thought it was kinda neat.
https://www.ecotrons.com/small_engine_fuel_injection_kit/
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Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.1 ton front end
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
I just thought it was kinda neat.
https://www.ecotrons.com/small_engine_fuel_injection_kit/
--
Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.1 ton front end
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
Bruce,
Thanks for that link: I really hadn't thought through the requirements to
do the job right -- it's a LOT more complicated than my first thoughts
considered!
I couldn't find a typical cost, but it's bound to be far above anything I'd
consider, since I'm not likely to ever "hot rod" anything again, much less
anything that small.
By the way, what IS the Onan's displacement?
Ken H.
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:31 PM Bruce Hislop via Gmclist <
> I found this site with EFI kits for small engines. I don't know anything
> about this company or converting small engines to EFI.
>
> I just thought it was kinda neat.
>
> https://www.ecotrons.com/small_engine_fuel_injection_kit/
>
> --
> Bruce Hislop
> ON Canada
> 77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.1 ton front end
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
> My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
>
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Thanks for that link: I really hadn't thought through the requirements to
do the job right -- it's a LOT more complicated than my first thoughts
considered!
I couldn't find a typical cost, but it's bound to be far above anything I'd
consider, since I'm not likely to ever "hot rod" anything again, much less
anything that small.
By the way, what IS the Onan's displacement?
Ken H.
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:31 PM Bruce Hislop via Gmclist <
> I found this site with EFI kits for small engines. I don't know anything
> about this company or converting small engines to EFI.
>
> I just thought it was kinda neat.
>
> https://www.ecotrons.com/small_engine_fuel_injection_kit/
>
> --
> Bruce Hislop
> ON Canada
> 77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.1 ton front end
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
> My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
>
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I looked in the Onan manuals and it does not give the displacement. However the bore is 3-9/16" and stroke is 3". So that works out to 29.9 cubic
inches per cylinder x 2 = 60 cubic inches or 983 cubic centimetres (CC's) so say 1,000CC's which is 1 litre.
Unless I calculated wrong, it's a bigger engine than I thought!
They show a Briggs & Stratton Vanguard 993cc kit, but it comes with an intake manifold. Their universal kits show up to 800cc. Since the Onan runs at
a constant 1800 rpm, a kit for a smaller engine will likely work since we don't go WOT!
My Onan works fairly well, but it is smelly. I think a catalytic converter would clean up the smell, but they are costly.
Maybe someone will chime in with the cost of a kit.
--
Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.1 ton front end
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
inches per cylinder x 2 = 60 cubic inches or 983 cubic centimetres (CC's) so say 1,000CC's which is 1 litre.
Unless I calculated wrong, it's a bigger engine than I thought!
They show a Briggs & Stratton Vanguard 993cc kit, but it comes with an intake manifold. Their universal kits show up to 800cc. Since the Onan runs at
a constant 1800 rpm, a kit for a smaller engine will likely work since we don't go WOT!
My Onan works fairly well, but it is smelly. I think a catalytic converter would clean up the smell, but they are costly.
Maybe someone will chime in with the cost of a kit.
--
Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.1 ton front end
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
> I looked in the Onan manuals and it does not give the displacement. However the bore is 3-9/16" and stroke is 3". So that works out to 29.9 cubic
> inches per cylinder x 2 = 60 cubic inches or 983 cubic centimetres (CC's) so say 1,000CC's which is 1 litre.
>
> Unless I calculated wrong, it's a bigger engine than I thought!
>
> They show a Briggs & Stratton Vanguard 993cc kit, but it comes with an intake manifold. Their universal kits show up to 800cc. Since the Onan
> runs at a constant 1800 rpm, a kit for a smaller engine will likely work since we don't go WOT!
>
> My Onan works fairly well, but it is smelly. I think a catalytic converter would clean up the smell, but they are costly.
>
> Maybe someone will chime in with the cost of a kit.
60 cubic inches displacement is what we used for required fuel calculations to get in the ballpark for start and run.
--
Wally Anderson
Omaha NE
75 Glenbrook
Megasquirt III injection
Bob Stone hydroBOOOOST
Manny reaction arm system
Branscombe Kelsey Hayes park brake
http://wallyandsue.blogspot.com/
> inches per cylinder x 2 = 60 cubic inches or 983 cubic centimetres (CC's) so say 1,000CC's which is 1 litre.
>
> Unless I calculated wrong, it's a bigger engine than I thought!
>
> They show a Briggs & Stratton Vanguard 993cc kit, but it comes with an intake manifold. Their universal kits show up to 800cc. Since the Onan
> runs at a constant 1800 rpm, a kit for a smaller engine will likely work since we don't go WOT!
>
> My Onan works fairly well, but it is smelly. I think a catalytic converter would clean up the smell, but they are costly.
>
> Maybe someone will chime in with the cost of a kit.
60 cubic inches displacement is what we used for required fuel calculations to get in the ballpark for start and run.
--
Wally Anderson
Omaha NE
75 Glenbrook
Megasquirt III injection
Bob Stone hydroBOOOOST
Manny reaction arm system
Branscombe Kelsey Hayes park brake
http://wallyandsue.blogspot.com/
