Onan training tape (troubleshooting the PowerDrawer)

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Here is a link to an Onan training tape on troubleshooting the PowerDrawer generator. I'm not sure where I saw this link, but I searched here and
could not find it. It if was recently posted here, I apologize.

Its a great old video that I have never seen before on how to troubleshoot and set things like governor and carb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJcwLyrHMq4

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Great video with a couple errors. The graphic has RMP instead of RPM, and at one point they mention the high speed mixture screw where it seems they
should be referring to the low speed mixture screw. They also seem to weight freq over voltage trim whereas today most find the voltage most important
to trim for.
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At least they took the time to help the community.
I can appreciate the mistakes as you can see tons of that type of error on
our web site.

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 6:24 AM John R. Lebetski via Gmclist <

> Great video with a couple errors. The graphic has RMP instead of RPM, and
> at one point they mention the high speed mixture screw where it seems they
> should be referring to the low speed mixture screw. They also seem to
> weight freq over voltage trim whereas today most find the voltage most
> important
> to trim for.
> --
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> Woodstock, IL
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Thanks for posting that Bruce. Added to my long list of GMC bookmarks!
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I wonder if the Simpson 260 is required. I have no idea where mine is.
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> I wonder if the Simpson 260 is required. I have no idea where mine is.

Ken,
I'm pretty sure I can find mine and lend it to you.....
Matt

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Thanks Matt. I'll remember that if my Onan ever quits.
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Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
I just used this to tinker with my onan. at 63 hz, i'm 134v. How do you
reduce voltage, yet maintain frequency?

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 12:38 AM Ken Burton via Gmclist <

> Thanks Matt. I'll remember that if my Onan ever quits.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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Slow down the engin rpm

On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 10:17 AM Will via Gmclist
wrote:

> I just used this to tinker with my onan. at 63 hz, i'm 134v. How do you
> reduce voltage, yet maintain frequency?
>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 12:38 AM Ken Burton via Gmclist <

>
> > Thanks Matt. I'll remember that if my Onan ever quits.
> > --
> > Ken Burton - N9KB
> > 76 Palm Beach
> > Hebron, Indiana
> >
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1-800-752-7502
 
>
> I just used this to tinker with my onan. at 63 hz, i'm 134v. How do you
> reduce voltage, yet maintain frequency?

It is a volts per hertz machine - they are inextricably tied together. Slow the engine down a little as JimK said.

—Jim

Jim Miller
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1977 Royale
Hamilton, OH
 
Do all voltage and frequency testing on ONAN generators with approximately
50% load. If it is close on frequency (50 - 60 hz) and the voltage is under
130 v ac or so, you should be fine. No load checks will always be a bit
higher. No cause for alarm where you presently are.
Jim Hupy

On Sun, Jul 21, 2019, 10:25 AM Jim Kanomata via Gmclist <

> Slow down the engin rpm
>
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 10:17 AM Will via Gmclist >

>
> > I just used this to tinker with my onan. at 63 hz, i'm 134v. How do you
> > reduce voltage, yet maintain frequency?
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 12:38 AM Ken Burton via Gmclist <

> >
> > > Thanks Matt. I'll remember that if my Onan ever quits.
> > > --
> > > Ken Burton - N9KB
> > > 76 Palm Beach
> > > Hebron, Indiana
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i'm good under load. Its the no load that is a bit high. OK. Thank you.

On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 1:43 PM James Hupy via Gmclist <

> Do all voltage and frequency testing on ONAN generators with approximately
> 50% load. If it is close on frequency (50 - 60 hz) and the voltage is under
> 130 v ac or so, you should be fine. No load checks will always be a bit
> higher. No cause for alarm where you presently are.
> Jim Hupy
>
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2019, 10:25 AM Jim Kanomata via Gmclist <

>
> > Slow down the engin rpm
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 10:17 AM Will via Gmclist <
> gmclist
> > >

> >
> > > I just used this to tinker with my onan. at 63 hz, i'm 134v. How do you
> > > reduce voltage, yet maintain frequency?
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 12:38 AM Ken Burton via Gmclist <

> > >
> > > > Thanks Matt. I'll remember that if my Onan ever quits.
> > > > --
> > > > Ken Burton - N9KB
> > > > 76 Palm Beach
> > > > Hebron, Indiana
> > > >
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> > --
> > Jim Kanomata
> > Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
> > jimk
> > http://www.appliedgmc.com
> > 1-800-752-7502
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Adjust the Idle jet and the main back and forth little at a time.

On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 10:47 AM Will via Gmclist
wrote:

> i'm good under load. Its the no load that is a bit high. OK. Thank you.
>
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 1:43 PM James Hupy via Gmclist <

>
> > Do all voltage and frequency testing on ONAN generators with
> approximately
> > 50% load. If it is close on frequency (50 - 60 hz) and the voltage is
> under
> > 130 v ac or so, you should be fine. No load checks will always be a bit
> > higher. No cause for alarm where you presently are.
> > Jim Hupy
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 21, 2019, 10:25 AM Jim Kanomata via Gmclist <

> >
> > > Slow down the engin rpm
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 10:17 AM Will via Gmclist <
> > gmclist
> > > >

> > >
> > > > I just used this to tinker with my onan. at 63 hz, i'm 134v. How do
> you
> > > > reduce voltage, yet maintain frequency?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 12:38 AM Ken Burton via Gmclist <

> > > >
> > > > > Thanks Matt. I'll remember that if my Onan ever quits.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Ken Burton - N9KB
> > > > > 76 Palm Beach
> > > > > Hebron, Indiana
> > > > >
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> > > Jim Kanomata
> > > Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
> > > jimk
> > > http://www.appliedgmc.com
> > > 1-800-752-7502
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You cannot. Voltage and frequency are directly related to RPM.

I adjust my voltage to 128 v at no load. This gives me about 120 v with an aircontioner and mucrowave both running.

Emery Stora

>
> I just used this to tinker with my onan. at 63 hz, i'm 134v. How do you
> reduce voltage, yet maintain frequency?
>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 12:38 AM Ken Burton via Gmclist <

>
>> Thanks Matt. I'll remember that if my Onan ever quits.
>> --
>> Ken Burton - N9KB
>> 76 Palm Beach
>> Hebron, Indiana
>>
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Thanks all. I do the same. The video is slightly misleading in that regard,
giving preference to frequency. I will stick with voltage

On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 5:42 PM Emery Stora via Gmclist <

> You cannot. Voltage and frequency are directly related to RPM.
>
> I adjust my voltage to 128 v at no load. This gives me about 120 v with
> an aircontioner and mucrowave both running.
>
> Emery Stora
>
> > On Jul 21, 2019, at 11:16 AM, Will via Gmclist

> >
> > I just used this to tinker with my onan. at 63 hz, i'm 134v. How do you
> > reduce voltage, yet maintain frequency?
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 12:38 AM Ken Burton via Gmclist <

> >
> >> Thanks Matt. I'll remember that if my Onan ever quits.
> >> --
> >> Ken Burton - N9KB
> >> 76 Palm Beach
> >> Hebron, Indiana
> >>
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Stick your digital volt meter into your household receptacle sometime,
morning, mid afternoon and early evening. I think you will be surprised at
the voltage variation. The frequency stays fairly constant. Some of the
more modern gensets hold voltage and frequency a bit better than the ONAN
from the 70's.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or

On Sun, Jul 21, 2019, 5:22 PM Will via Gmclist
wrote:

> Thanks all. I do the same. The video is slightly misleading in that regard,
> giving preference to frequency. I will stick with voltage
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 5:42 PM Emery Stora via Gmclist <

>
> > You cannot. Voltage and frequency are directly related to RPM.
> >
> > I adjust my voltage to 128 v at no load. This gives me about 120 v with
> > an aircontioner and mucrowave both running.
> >
> > Emery Stora
> >
> > > On Jul 21, 2019, at 11:16 AM, Will via Gmclist <
> gmclist>

> > >
> > > I just used this to tinker with my onan. at 63 hz, i'm 134v. How do you
> > > reduce voltage, yet maintain frequency?
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 12:38 AM Ken Burton via Gmclist <

> > >
> > >> Thanks Matt. I'll remember that if my Onan ever quits.
> > >> --
> > >> Ken Burton - N9KB
> > >> 76 Palm Beach
> > >> Hebron, Indiana
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
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RV parks power supply vary a lot as they say: Flux you Asians.
Not politically correct, but I don't care.

On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 5:41 PM James Hupy via Gmclist <

> Stick your digital volt meter into your household receptacle sometime,
> morning, mid afternoon and early evening. I think you will be surprised at
> the voltage variation. The frequency stays fairly constant. Some of the
> more modern gensets hold voltage and frequency a bit better than the ONAN
> from the 70's.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
>
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2019, 5:22 PM Will via Gmclist

>
> > Thanks all. I do the same. The video is slightly misleading in that
> regard,
> > giving preference to frequency. I will stick with voltage
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 5:42 PM Emery Stora via Gmclist <

> >
> > > You cannot. Voltage and frequency are directly related to RPM.
> > >
> > > I adjust my voltage to 128 v at no load. This gives me about 120 v
> with
> > > an aircontioner and mucrowave both running.
> > >
> > > Emery Stora
> > >
> > > > On Jul 21, 2019, at 11:16 AM, Will via Gmclist <
> > gmclist>

> > > >
> > > > I just used this to tinker with my onan. at 63 hz, i'm 134v. How do
> you
> > > > reduce voltage, yet maintain frequency?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 12:38 AM Ken Burton via Gmclist <

> > > >
> > > >> Thanks Matt. I'll remember that if my Onan ever quits.
> > > >> --
> > > >> Ken Burton - N9KB
> > > >> 76 Palm Beach
> > > >> Hebron, Indiana
> > > >>
> > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> GMCnet mailing list
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> > > >>
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jimk
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
 
> Here is a link to an Onan training tape on troubleshooting the PowerDrawer generator. I'm not sure where I saw this link, but I searched here and
> could not find it. It if was recently posted here, I apologize.
>
> Its a great old video that I have never seen before on how to troubleshoot and set things like governor and carb.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJcwLyrHMq4

If you have a copy of the Data DVD I made. In the videos directory is that Onan video. It is one of the Dealer training videos I converted from the
slide shows they used to train the service techs. I guess someone posted it to YouTube.

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