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Can someone tellme the difference between ATF 4 and ATF+4? The +4 says good for mopar stuff. Is there any difference in the actual oil?

--johnny
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Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
 
Suppliers are trying not to have too many products to produce.
All about the additives they put in.
New car Mfg demand certain additive package
 
I though ATF branding was wrong type in Turbo Hydramatics. Should be Dex/Merc in today's world of packaging. Readily available as Valvoline Dex/Merc
and what I use in older GMs.
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John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
 
Still looking for an answer. JimK's response indicates there might be. The question arises from replacing the leaking pan gasket on a recently
rebuilt Mopar 62TE and refilling with fluid. Took three parts houses to find enough atf+4. All wanted to sell me atf 4 instead and claim no
difference. Rebuilder said +4 or the warranty is void. Note, the +4 containers are marked 'approved for chrysler and jeep newer transmissions' while
the basic 4 is not.

--johnny
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Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
 
Sorry Johnny I had answered thinking the question was about GMC TZE fluid choice.
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John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
 
Johnny,

I went to Bob Is The Oil Guy's site (my go to site for oil questions of I don't want to bother Ernie) and found a link to this:
https://www.allpar.com/threads/chrysler-automatic-transmission-fluids-7176-atf-3-atf-4.230008/#post-1085224106

Seems to be mostly marketing difference, but the lack of propriety additives would be an easy to test for way to void a warranty. Not that I'm
paranoid or anything, but the infuriating trend that computer printer manufacturers have colluded on, where you can't use third party ink cartridges
in their printers or need to pay extra to access the "extra" ink that's already in the cartridge, could easily spill over to automotive fluids. Use
non-OEM fluids and the Check Engine light comes on.

Your car, your cash, your call.

Richard
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'77 Birchaven TZE...777;
'76 Palm Beach under construction;
‘76 Edgemonte waiting its turn
 
Our brand new toyota corolla uses 0w 16engine oil. !!! Lol
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DAVE KING
lurker, wannabe
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
 
I chased down enough +4 to fill it. So far, no leaks. Very hard to find the proper gasket, since from the factory there is no gasket on a 62TE pan.
Oregon Performance Transmission had one and sent it. They seemed to stock a fair number of semi - rare transmission parts, Anyone else dealt with
them? Hupy?

--johnny
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Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
 
No, I have not dealt with Oregon Transmission. BUT I DO HAVE A SOURCE. My
go-to specialist is SAM'S TRANSMISSION IN SALEM. He and I are both members
of Willamette Valley Street Rodders. He knows his "stuff" and is a great
guy. He does all my transmission work. Usually turns around a GMC in two
days. He has a good pipeline for parts and hard to find stuff. If you need
more info, P.M. me.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Sun, Mar 6, 2022, 7:32 AM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <

> I chased down enough +4 to fill it. So far, no leaks. Very hard to find
> the proper gasket, since from the factory there is no gasket on a 62TE pan.
> Oregon Performance Transmission had one and sent it. They seemed to stock
> a fair number of semi - rare transmission parts, Anyone else dealt with
> them? Hupy?
>
> --johnny
> --
> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell
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