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Subject: RE: GMC: Window Track Lubricant?
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 13:28:17 +0000
From: "Les & Des"
Organization: Living Praise Ministries
To: gmcmotorhome

> Talking about windows.... Mine need new seals,weatherstrip etc.
> Anybody recondition these on there own? What does the job entail?
> My glass looks good except for a slight haze around the outer
> edges. If I tint the glass will that hide the haze? How easy is
> it to remove the windows and frames?
> Thanks,
> Rob

We have re-channelled all of our windows. It is a easy but tedious
job. For this job you do not have to remove the window, it is a
push, pull and slide type job. It took the two of us to work as a
team. We took an old piece of the channelling and had our local RV
store match it. One of our mistakes was on one of the front windows.
We did not clean the track really well, and it does not slide easy.
We must have left a clump or some in the track.

Also a friend of ours that work for a car dealership says that really
fine steel-wool will remove haze on glass. Even though our windshield
has haze around the edges, we have not tried this.

'73 Painted Desert
Les & Des
Living Praise Ministries

mailto:lesndes
Visit us at: http://www.livingpraise.org
 
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Subject: RE: GMC: Window Track Lubricant?
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 13:28:17 +0000
From: "Les & Des"
Organization: Living Praise Ministries
To: gmcmotorhome

> Talking about windows.... Mine need new seals,weatherstrip etc.
> Anybody recondition these on there own? What does the job entail?
> My glass looks good except for a slight haze around the outer
> edges. If I tint the glass will that hide the haze? How easy is
> it to remove the windows and frames?
> Thanks,
> Rob

We have re-channelled all of our windows. It is a easy but tedious
job. For this job you do not have to remove the window, it is a
push, pull and slide type job. It took the two of us to work as a
team. We took an old piece of the channelling and had our local RV
store match it. One of our mistakes was on one of the front windows.
We did not clean the track really well, and it does not slide easy.
We must have left a clump or some in the track.

Also a friend of ours that work for a car dealership says that really
fine steel-wool will remove haze on glass. Even though our windshield
has haze around the edges, we have not tried this.

'73 Painted Desert
Les & Des
Living Praise Ministries

mailto:lesndes
Visit us at: http://www.livingpraise.org

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Patrick Flowers
Mailto:patri63

The GMC Motorhome Page
http://www.gmcmotorhome.com
 
The haze on the glass is between the laminates. It can sometimes be removed
by using two household irons one on each side. Haven't tried it yet, got
this information from my brother who claims to have done it before. He
works for General Motors. Irons on low heat will relaminate the glass to
the strip of plastic between the glass.

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>Subject: RE: GMC: Window Track Lubricant?
>Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 13:28:17 +0000
>From: "Les & Des"
>Organization: Living Praise Ministries
>To: gmcmotorhome
>
>> Talking about windows.... Mine need new seals,weatherstrip etc.
>> Anybody recondition these on there own? What does the job entail?
>> My glass looks good except for a slight haze around the outer
>> edges. If I tint the glass will that hide the haze? How easy is
>> it to remove the windows and frames?
>> Thanks,
>> Rob
>
>
>We have re-channelled all of our windows. It is a easy but tedious
>job. For this job you do not have to remove the window, it is a
>push, pull and slide type job. It took the two of us to work as a
>team. We took an old piece of the channelling and had our local RV
>store match it. One of our mistakes was on one of the front windows.
> We did not clean the track really well, and it does not slide easy.
>We must have left a clump or some in the track.
>
>Also a friend of ours that work for a car dealership says that really
>fine steel-wool will remove haze on glass. Even though our windshield
>has haze around the edges, we have not tried this.
>
>
>'73 Painted Desert
>Les & Des
>Living Praise Ministries
>
>mailto:lesndes
>Visit us at: http://www.livingpraise.org
>
>
>
 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-gmcmotorhome
>[mailto:owner-gmcmotorhome]On Behalf Of Patrick Flowers
>Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 9:44 AM
>To: gmcmotorhome
>Subject: GMC: (no subject)
>
>
>approve:bravo
>Subject: RE: GMC: Window Track Lubricant?
>Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 13:28:17 +0000
>From: "Les & Des"
>Organization: Living Praise Ministries
>To: gmcmotorhome
>
>> Talking about windows.... Mine need new seals,weatherstrip etc.
>> Anybody recondition these on there own? What does the job entail?
>> My glass looks good except for a slight haze around the outer
>> edges. If I tint the glass will that hide the haze? How easy is
>> it to remove the windows and frames?
>> Thanks,
>> Rob
>
>
>We have re-channelled all of our windows. It is a easy but tedious
>job. For this job you do not have to remove the window, it is a
>push, pull and slide type job. It took the two of us to work as a
>team. We took an old piece of the channelling and had our local RV
>store match it. One of our mistakes was on one of the front windows.
> We did not clean the track really well, and it does not slide easy.
>We must have left a clump or some in the track.
>
>Also a friend of ours that work for a car dealership says that really
>fine steel-wool will remove haze on glass. Even though our windshield
>has haze around the edges, we have not tried this.
>
>
>'73 Painted Desert
>Les & Des
>Living Praise Ministries
>
>mailto:lesndes
>Visit us at: http://www.livingpraise.org
>
>
Thanks for the Info... Does removeing the channel
include the outer frame? And if so would it be
wise to wait untill I'm ready to paint the coach
and do the windows after painting?
Thanks,
Rob
 
Hi Patrick,
Would You like Me to email you Pictures of My 73GMC as I go
about refurbishing it? I have a RIOCH digital camera so
doucmenting it as I go will be eazy.
See Ya,
Rob
 
> From: "Robert Teed"
> To:
> Subject: RE: GMC: (no subject)
> Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 23:33:24 -0400
> Importance: Normal
> Reply-to: gmcmotorhome

>
> Hi Patrick,
> Would You like Me to email you Pictures of My 73GMC as I go
> about refurbishing it? I have a RIOCH digital camera so
> doucmenting it as I go will be eazy.
> See Ya,
> Rob
>
>I don't know about Patrick, but I know I'd like to follow it.
Thanks
MikeB
>
>
>
 
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-gmcmotorhome
> >[mailto:owner-gmcmotorhome]On Behalf Of Patrick Flowers
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 9:44 AM
> >To: gmcmotorhome
> >Subject: GMC: (no subject)
> >
> >
> >approve:bravo
> >Subject: RE: GMC: Window Track Lubricant?
> >Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 13:28:17 +0000
> >From: "Les & Des"
> >Organization: Living Praise Ministries
> >To: gmcmotorhome
> >
> >> Talking about windows.... Mine need new seals,weatherstrip etc.
> >> Anybody recondition these on there own? What does the job entail?
> >> My glass looks good except for a slight haze around the outer
> >> edges. If I tint the glass will that hide the haze? How easy is
> >> it to remove the windows and frames?
> >> Thanks,
> >> Rob
> >
> >
> >We have re-channelled all of our windows. It is a easy but tedious
> >job. For this job you do not have to remove the window, it is a
> >push, pull and slide type job. It took the two of us to work as a
> >team. We took an old piece of the channelling and had our local RV
> >store match it. One of our mistakes was on one of the front windows.
> > We did not clean the track really well, and it does not slide easy.
> >We must have left a clump or some in the track.
> >
> >Also a friend of ours that work for a car dealership says that really
> >fine steel-wool will remove haze on glass. Even though our windshield
> >has haze around the edges, we have not tried this.
> >
> >
> >'73 Painted Desert
> >Les & Des
> >Living Praise Ministries
> >
> >mailto:lesndes
> >Visit us at: http://www.livingpraise.org
> >
> >
> Thanks for the Info... Does removeing the channel
> include the outer frame? And if so would it be
> wise to wait untill I'm ready to paint the coach
> and do the windows after painting?
> Thanks,
> Rob

Rob,
I have been following your info seek for several days and have seen some
good advise being given. In that light, I thought I would chime in with
some helpful info.

If you refelt the driver & pass. sliders, I have found it prudent to
remove the vertical bar on the edge of the slider and trim off an 8th of
an inch or so to assure it does not drag on the felt and make it
difficult to move. Take a 2x4, hold it agianst the edge ofthe trim and
hit the wood with a hammer to push it off of the glass. Reins. it with
the same wood block.

For the stop for the driver/pass. slider glass, turn a section of the
felt over and install it at the end of the slider traveland up the back
radiused corner to the top of the back corner of the fixed glass. That
sure sounds complicated! Call me at work tomorrow if it was confusing.

As I believe ARCH said earlier, you will probobly find 1 or more windows
shifted foreward. If so, you need to reset them with new butyl rubber
tape. Drill an 8th" hole at the top & bottom of the vertical bar
between the 2 pieces of glass and pop rivit it in place. Many coaches
already have this but some do not. This keeps the fixed glass from
shifting out of its position.

I have just gotten in the felt material which fits in the vertical bar.
It is special in that it has 2 plastic seals in between the felt which
help keep out water & wind. I had lost the part # for some time and
have just recently researched & found it again. Call me if you need
some, its cheap!

I also have a modified latch for the side windows that seems to work
pretty well for late style windows. Golby has available latches for the
driver/ pass. and early style windows.

If you need the screw/washer fastners for the driver/pass. windows, I
give those out for free, call me. 1-877-275-4462

Jim Bounds www.gmccoop.com
 
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