New plastic gas tanks needed

mike kilroy

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We have a perfectly good 1973 GMC we rebuilt to perfection... 10 years ago... We made it mechanically sound. I removed and coated both rusted gas tanks. That lasted a few years. Now they leak again. If I fill them, the engine runs fine but then leaks all over.

It is a dang shame to have a good GMC motorhome sitting in the barn not able to even be driven into town.

Does anyone have a source yet of reasonable priced replacement bolt in tanks? $ 500.00 is not reasonable. Plastic preferred?
 
Ethanol-poisoned gasoline has reportedly ruined hundreds (maybe more) of boat plastic/fiberglass fuel tanks and taken the engines down with them. I would be VERY leery of plastic fuel tanks unless proven to be immune to deterioration by ethanol-added gasoline.

D C "Mac" Macdonald​
Amateur Radio K2GKK​
Since 30 November '53​
USAF and FAA, Retired​
Member GMCMI & Classics​
Oklahoma City, OK​
"The Money Pit"​
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'76 ex-Palm Beach​
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From: Gmclist on behalf of Mike Kilroy
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 17:07
To: gmclist
Subject: [GMCnet] New plastic gas tanks needed

We have a perfectly good 1973 GMC we rebuilt to perfection... 10 years ago... We made it mechanically sound. I removed and coated both rusted gas tanks. That lasted a few years. Now they leak again. If I fill them, the engine runs fine but then leaks all over.

It is a dang shame to have a good GMC motorhome sitting in the barn not able to even be driven into town.

Does anyone have a source yet of reasonable priced replacement bolt in tanks? $ 500.00 is not reasonable. Plastic preferred?

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Isn't every car fuel tank some form of plastic today? How can millions of cars survive the ethanol?

From: "D C _Mac_ Macdonald"
To: "Mike Kilroy" , "gmclist"
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 6:08:20 PM
Subject: Re: New plastic gas tanks needed

Ethanol-poisoned gasoline has reportedly ruined hundreds (maybe more) of boat plastic/fiberglass fuel tanks and taken the engines down with them. I would be VERY leery of plastic fuel tanks unless proven to be immune to deterioration by ethanol-added gasoline.

D C "Mac" Macdonald​
Amateur Radio K2GKK​
Since 30 November '53​
USAF and FAA, Retired​
Member GMCMI & Classics​
Oklahoma City, OK​
"The Money Pit"​
TZE166V101966​
'76 ex-Palm Beach​
k2gkk + hotmail dot com

From: Gmclist on behalf of Mike Kilroy
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 17:07
To: gmclist
Subject: [GMCnet] New plastic gas tanks needed
We have a perfectly good 1973 GMC we rebuilt to perfection... 10 years ago... We made it mechanically sound. I removed and coated both rusted gas tanks. That lasted a few years. Now they leak again. If I fill them, the engine runs fine but then leaks all over.

It is a dang shame to have a good GMC motorhome sitting in the barn not able to even be driven into town.

Does anyone have a source yet of reasonable priced replacement bolt in tanks? $ 500.00 is not reasonable. Plastic preferred?

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There are thousands of different plastics. Some will stand up to gasoline and ethanol. There are many very expensive ones that totally hold up but you’d have to refinance your motorhome (or house) to buy them. Fortunately a good plastic is cross linked high density polyethylene (HDPE). Both the high density and the cross linking of the plastic polymer is important. Regular polyethylene will not hold up.

I replaced a rusted steel Jeep gas tanks several years back and it seems to have held up well. It is made of high density cross linked polyethylene.

I don’t know who might have ones to fit a GMC motorhome but Jim Kanomata might.

The reason that GMC motorhome tanks rust out is due to water standing in them. That can easily happen from storing a partly filled tank. Water vapor in the air will enter through the vents. It is drawn in when the tanks cool down. However when the water vapor in the air cools it will condense and settle to the bottom of the tank as liquid water. Day after day this occurs as the air temperature warms and cools. A significant amount of water can build up and rust the tanks from the inside.
One way to prevent this is to fill your tanks before storing the motorhome.
However be aware that some gasoline cannot be stored for months. You can add a stabilizer to the gas but the best solution is to use the motorhome frequently and put in more new gasoline.

Perhaps Rob Mueller can tell us what he does when he leaves his GMC in Houston (where it is often very humid) when he goes off to Australia.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

>
> Isn't every car fuel tank some form of plastic today? How can millions of cars survive the ethanol?
 
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oven. The gimbal arm turns the mold in a complex figure 8 pattern while th=
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nywhere from five to thirty minutes. The arm then swings out of the oven, =
is cooled by a water spray and the mold opened. The part comes out as a ho=
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er tanks and the like largely because the mold costs are low. Processing t=
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ate and expensive two part molds. Most ag areas have rotational molders wh=
o will take on custom work like our gas tanks. Anyone willing to make 50 t=
o 100 or more could be very competitive in the market place. Those ag area=
rotational molders regularly make tanks and similar stuff for farming appl=
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long time ago I made a line of horse/mule back packing boxes rotationally m=
olded that were very popular. Likely 99% of all of those put into operatio=
n are still being used. Very easy to add things like threaded inserts, fit=
tings of all kinds, etc. The problem for thinks like the horse/mule back p=
acks is they seldom ever break or fail so the more you make the smaller the=
market becomes. That would be the same problem for a person offering rota=
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nds, you might be more familiar with the spelling mould and gimble than the=
more common American english mold and gimbal. Jerry Jerry Work Th=
e Dovetail Joint Fine furniture designed and hand crafted in the 1907 for=
mer Masonic Temple building in historic Kerby, OR glwork ht=
tp://jerrywork.com Message: 11 Date=
: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 17:08:29 -0600 From: Emery Stora =
To: gmclist Subject: Re: [GMCnet] New plastic gas tank=
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t plastics. Some will stand up to gasoline and ethanol. There are many ver=
y expensive ones that totally hold up but you?d have to refinance your moto=
rhome (or house) to buy them. Fortunately a good plastic is cross linked hi=
gh density polyethylene (HDPE). Both the high density and the cross linking=
of the plastic polymer is important. Regular polyethylene will not hold up=
. I replaced a rusted steel Jeep gas tanks several years back and it s=
eems to have held up well. It is made of high density cross linked polyethy=
lene. I don?t know who might have ones to fit a GMC motorhome but =
Jim Kanomata might. The reason that GMC motorhome tanks rust out is d=
ue to water standing in them. That can easily happen from storing a partly =
filled tank. Water vapor in the air will enter through the vents. It is dra=
wn in when the tanks cool down. However when the water vapor in the air coo=
ls it will condense and settle to the bottom of the tank as liquid water. D=
ay after day this occurs as the air temperature warms and cools. A signific=
ant amount of water can build up and rust the tanks from the inside. One=
way to prevent this is to fill your tanks before storing the motorhome. =
However be aware that some gasoline cannot be stored for months. You can=
add a stabilizer to the gas but the best solution is to use the motorhome =
frequently and put in more new gasoline. Perhaps Rob Mueller can tell=
us what he does when he leaves his GMC in Houston (where it is often very =
humid) when he goes off to Australia. Emery Stora 77 Kingsley Fre=
derick,
 
Every tank that I have worked on since model year 1996 has been plastic.
--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
It is all about numbers.
Tooling up is the big cost,
I have dumped money on few projects, but not worth it as I am now 75 and I
need to put more emphases on our Air Filter side as it is the profit center
and GMC is a division that will taper down should I pass.
Currently we are growing the SOB RV side as it has better growth potential.
We are a multi Million Corp. so contrary to belief, are stuctured to
continue.

> Every tank that I have worked on since model year 1996 has been plastic.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
 
Hi Jerry / Emery Stora via GMcli ... can baffles be molded in? Seems like something that could be 3D printed on the newer larger printers that Rick
Michelhaugh is currently researching.

> To follow Emery's comments. The most common method of fabricating HDPE products is rotational molding. A simple female mold is fabricated,
> usually from welded aluminum. That is then filled with the proper amount of HDPE pellets, mounted on a gimbal arm and the whole thing is placed in
> an oven. The gimbal arm turns the mold in a complex figure 8 pattern while the HDPE pellets melt and coat the entire inside of the female mold.
> Takes anywhere from five to thirty minutes. The arm then swings out of the oven, is cooled by a water spray and the mold opened. The part comes
> out as a hollow, three dimensional object whose outside surface mirrors the simple female mold. It is an inexpensive way to make large parts like
> gas tanks, water tanks and the like largely because the mold costs are low. Processing times are long so processing costs are high, but it works
> well for small volume parts where you simply could not stand the tooling costs of more elaborate and expensive two part molds. Most ag areas have
> rotational molders who will take on custom work like our gas tanks. Anyone willing to make 50 to 100 or more could be very competitive in the
> market place. Those ag area rotational molders regularly make tanks and similar stuff for farming applications where volume is low but chemical
> resistance must be very high. A long time ago I made a line of horse/mule back packing boxes rotationally molded that were very popular. Likely
> 99% of all of those put into operation are still being used. Very easy to add things like threaded inserts, fittings of all kinds, etc. The
> problem for thinks like the horse/mule back packs is they seldom ever break or fail so the more you make the smaller the market becomes. That would
> be the same problem for a person offering rotationally molded HDPE GMC fuel or water tanks.
>
> BTW, for our non-US friends, you might be more familiar with the spelling mould and gimble than the more common American english mold and gimbal.
>
> Jerry
> Jerry Work
> The Dovetail Joint
> Fine furniture designed and hand crafted in the 1907 former Masonic Temple building in historic Kerby, OR
>
> glwork
> http://jerrywork.com
> ==========
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 17:08:29 -0600
> From: Emery Stora
> To: gmclist
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] New plastic gas tanks needed
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> There are thousands of different plastics. Some will stand up to gasoline and ethanol. There are many very expensive ones that totally hold up
> but you?d have to refinance your motorhome (or house) to buy them. Fortunately a good plastic is cross linked high density polyethylene (HDPE). Both
> the high density and the cross linking of the plastic polymer is important. Regular polyethylene will not hold up.
>
> I replaced a rusted steel Jeep gas tanks several years back and it seems to have held up well. It is made of high density cross linked
> polyethylene.
>
> I don?t know who might have ones to fit a GMC motorhome but Jim Kanomata might.
>
> The reason that GMC motorhome tanks rust out is due to water standing in them. That can easily happen from storing a partly filled tank. Water
> vapor in the air will enter through the vents. It is drawn in when the tanks cool down. However when the water vapor in the air cools it will
> condense and settle to the bottom of the tank as liquid water. Day after day this occurs as the air temperature warms and cools. A significant
> amount of water can build up and rust the tanks from the inside.
> One way to prevent this is to fill your tanks before storing the motorhome.
> However be aware that some gasoline cannot be stored for months. You can add a stabilizer to the gas but the best solution is to use the motorhome
> frequently and put in more new gasoline.
>
> Perhaps Rob Mueller can tell us what he does when he leaves his GMC in Houston (where it is often very humid) when he goes off to Australia.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick,
> ============
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
 
The nice thing about plastic is that it is simple to modify the molds to incorporate baffles, return line connections, indentations in the bottom for pump wells, etc. with no additional cost when making the tank.

I would think it would be much more expensive and time consuming to use a 3D printer. Not sure if there is one nearly large enough anyway.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

>
> Hi Jerry / Emery Stora via GMcli ... can baffles be molded in? Seems like something that could be 3D printed on the newer larger printers that Rick
> Michelhaugh is currently researching.
>
>
>
>
>

>> To follow Emery's comments. The most common method of fabricating HDPE products is rotational molding. A simple female mold is fabricated,
>> usually from welded aluminum. That is then filled with the proper amount of HDPE pellets, mounted on a gimbal arm and the whole thing is placed in
>> an oven. The gimbal arm turns the mold in a complex figure 8 pattern while the HDPE pellets melt and coat the entire inside of the female mold.
>> Takes anywhere from five to thirty minutes. The arm then swings out of the oven, is cooled by a water spray and the mold opened. The part comes
>> out as a hollow, three dimensional object whose outside surface mirrors the simple female mold. It is an inexpensive way to make large parts like
>> gas tanks, water tanks and the like largely because the mold costs are low. Processing times are long so processing costs are high, but it works
>> well for small volume parts where you simply could not stand the tooling costs of more elaborate and expensive two part molds. Most ag areas have
>> rotational molders who will take on custom work like our gas tanks. Anyone willing to make 50 to 100 or more could be very competitive in the
>> market place. Those ag area rotational molders regularly make tanks and similar stuff for farming applications where volume is low but chemical
>> resistance must be very high. A long time ago I made a line of horse/mule back packing boxes rotationally molded that were very popular. Likely
>> 99% of all of those put into operation are still being used. Very easy to add things like threaded inserts, fittings of all kinds, etc. The
>> problem for thinks like the horse/mule back packs is they seldom ever break or fail so the more you make the smaller the market becomes. That would
>> be the same problem for a person offering rotationally molded HDPE GMC fuel or water tanks.
>>
>> BTW, for our non-US friends, you might be more familiar with the spelling mould and gimble than the more common American english mold and gimbal.
>>
>> Jerry
>> Jerry Work
>> The Dovetail Joint
>> Fine furniture designed and hand crafted in the 1907 former Masonic Temple building in historic Kerby, OR
>>
>> glwork
>> http://jerrywork.com
>> ==========
>>
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 17:08:29 -0600
>> From: Emery Stora
>> To: gmclist
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] New plastic gas tanks needed
>> Message-ID:
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> There are thousands of different plastics. Some will stand up to gasoline and ethanol. There are many very expensive ones that totally hold up
>> but you?d have to refinance your motorhome (or house) to buy them. Fortunately a good plastic is cross linked high density polyethylene (HDPE). Both
>> the high density and the cross linking of the plastic polymer is important. Regular polyethylene will not hold up.
>>
>> I replaced a rusted steel Jeep gas tanks several years back and it seems to have held up well. It is made of high density cross linked
>> polyethylene.
>>
>> I don?t know who might have ones to fit a GMC motorhome but Jim Kanomata might.
>>
>> The reason that GMC motorhome tanks rust out is due to water standing in them. That can easily happen from storing a partly filled tank. Water
>> vapor in the air will enter through the vents. It is drawn in when the tanks cool down. However when the water vapor in the air cools it will
>> condense and settle to the bottom of the tank as liquid water. Day after day this occurs as the air temperature warms and cools. A significant
>> amount of water can build up and rust the tanks from the inside.
>> One way to prevent this is to fill your tanks before storing the motorhome.
>> However be aware that some gasoline cannot be stored for months. You can add a stabilizer to the gas but the best solution is to use the motorhome
>> frequently and put in more new gasoline.
>>
>> Perhaps Rob Mueller can tell us what he does when he leaves his GMC in Houston (where it is often very humid) when he goes off to Australia.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick,
>> ============
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
> --
> C. Boyd
> 76 Crestmont
> East Tennessee
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So for kicks I sent request for quote to China thru Alibaba:

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/capacity-fuel-tank-truck-plastic-tractor_60750873038.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normalList.157.490d7d92agkZvP

Similar to but:  10pc right now. similar to this one.  fuel tank approx.
dimensions 800x1300x250mm   with 1 large 70mm threaded hole and 1 80mm
top hole for fuel gauge,suction out

Just to see what pops back.  If interest, then we can get them more
detailed info...

> To follow Emery’s comments. The most common method of fabricating HDPE products is rotational molding.
 
Does anyone have an autocad drawing of our GMC tanks? They will mold us duplicates! They would never wear out or rust out. If price remains around $300 I would buy in a heartbeat! MOQ (Minimum Order Quantity) of 10 means my two and 4 others could benefit too.

From: "Irene"
To: "Mike Kilroy"
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 4:05:35 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Fuel Tanks Catalogue-2018

Hello Mike,

Yes, we can quote according to your design with material, weight, dimension details. You could send the design for our engineer to check first and will let you know if need more information.
Also we can develop mold for you based on your design or sample.

The quotation sent to you yesterday is calculated according to MOQ 10 pcs, as you mentioned 10 pcs in previous enquiry. If your qty is more, the price will be lower accordingly.

Regarding certificate, one of our clients took our oil tank sample to do EPA and passed. But we haven't got it. I will send to you once available.

Waiting for your design.

Thank you



Xiamen Mellow Rotomolding Co., Ltd
Marketing Sales: Irene Leung

Email: [ mailto:sale91 | sale91 ]

Tel :+86 133 0602 2875

Wechat:+ 86 180 6095 2662

URL: www.mellow-rotomolding.com

From: [ mailto:mike | mike kilroy ]
Date: 2018-09-06 21:17
To: [ mailto:sale91 | Irene ]
Subject: Re: Fuel Tanks Catalogue-2018
Thank you. They are close but not close enough to what we require.

Would you quote a NEW design for us if we sent you details? If so, what details would you require?

With a MOQ of say 10pc?

Are your tanks certified by any USA government agency for safety or highway use?
 
Mike,
This is an interesting development and I think that all would be interested in the costing structure. I think that you could sell out the first 10 very quickly and if you opened up for a larger production run with preorders to cover cost you might be able to reduce the cost even more.

J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
TZE Zone Restorations
78 GMC Buskirk 30’ Stretch
1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan

>
> Does anyone have an autocad drawing of our GMC tanks? They will mold us duplicates! They would never wear out or rust out. If price remains around $300 I would buy in a heartbeat! MOQ (Minimum Order Quantity) of 10 means my two and 4 others could benefit too.
>
>
> From: "Irene"
> To: "Mike Kilroy"
> Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 4:05:35 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: Fuel Tanks Catalogue-2018
>
> Hello Mike,
>
> Yes, we can quote according to your design with material, weight, dimension details. You could send the design for our engineer to check first and will let you know if need more information.
> Also we can develop mold for you based on your design or sample.
>
> The quotation sent to you yesterday is calculated according to MOQ 10 pcs, as you mentioned 10 pcs in previous enquiry. If your qty is more, the price will be lower accordingly.
>
> Regarding certificate, one of our clients took our oil tank sample to do EPA and passed. But we haven't got it. I will send to you once available.
>
> Waiting for your design.
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Xiamen Mellow Rotomolding Co., Ltd
> Marketing Sales: Irene Leung
>
> Email: [ mailto:sale91 | sale91 ]
>
> Tel :+86 133 0602 2875
>
> Wechat:+ 86 180 6095 2662
>
> URL: www.mellow-rotomolding.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: [ mailto:mike | mike kilroy ]
> Date: 2018-09-06 21:17
> To: [ mailto:sale91 | Irene ]
> Subject: Re: Fuel Tanks Catalogue-2018
> Thank you. They are close but not close enough to what we require.
>
> Would you quote a NEW design for us if we sent you details? If so, what details would you require?
>
> With a MOQ of say 10pc?
>
> Are your tanks certified by any USA government agency for safety or highway use?
>
>
>
>
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I see lots of possible problems though:

1. The inlet fitting must be precisely located and robust enough to
withstand the rigors of installation and hose clamping force.

2. The area around the essential drain plug must be reinforced adequately
and have metal threaded plate included. Same for the outlet for the "Onan"
supply.

3. There must be a flange included for the fuel level sender/vent/supply
lines, preferably compatible with the GM flange lock.

4. Will the plastic be strong enough to withstand the fuel load supported
only by the two cross-straps? Or will a reinforcing plate be needed? How
long will the plastic tolerate the abrasion of the straps?

5. IIRC, the flange on one side of the metal tank provides part of the
support -- can the plastic do without that?

I'm hoping to never need one, but I hope this works out well for everyone
else. :-)

Ken H.

> Mike,
> This is an interesting development and I think that all would be
> interested in the costing structure. I think that you could sell out the
> first 10 very quickly and if you opened up for a larger production run with
> preorders to cover cost you might be able to reduce the cost even more.
>
>
 
My concerns are also how the plastic tank will resist sag over time. Such a long thin tank supported using the factory mounting methods will likely sag from the weight and potential high heat of southern roads. A revised mounting method may be required.

Regarding abrasion, many cars use straps, and as long as those straps are tightly clamping the tank, movement would be minimal. There obviously can’t be any sharp edges on the straps or other mounting surfaces.

Les Burt
Montreal
'75 Eleganza 26'

>
> I see lots of possible problems though:
>
> 1. The inlet fitting must be precisely located and robust enough to
> withstand the rigors of installation and hose clamping force.
>
> 2. The area around the essential drain plug must be reinforced adequately
> and have metal threaded plate included. Same for the outlet for the "Onan"
> supply.
>
> 3. There must be a flange included for the fuel level sender/vent/supply
> lines, preferably compatible with the GM flange lock.
>
> 4. Will the plastic be strong enough to withstand the fuel load supported
> only by the two cross-straps? Or will a reinforcing plate be needed? How
> long will the plastic tolerate the abrasion of the straps?
>
> 5. IIRC, the flange on one side of the metal tank provides part of the
> support -- can the plastic do without that?
>
> I'm hoping to never need one, but I hope this works out well for everyone
> else. :-)
>
> Ken H.
>

>>
>> Mike,
>> This is an interesting development and I think that all would be
>> interested in the costing structure. I think that you could sell out the
>> first 10 very quickly and if you opened up for a larger production run with
>> preorders to cover cost you might be able to reduce the cost even more.
>>
>>
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Why not check MOQ of 50 (25 of us) ?

jofarr, soddy TN - 3 26'

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Kilroy
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To: gmclist
Sent: 9/7/2018 8:16:49 AM
Subject: [GMCnet] New plastic gas tanks needed
________________________________________________________________________________

Does anyone have an autocad drawing of our GMC tanks? They will mold us duplicates! They would never wear out or rust out. If price remains around $300 I would buy in a heartbeat! MOQ (Minimum Order Quantity) of 10 means my two and 4 others could benefit too.

From: "Irene"
To: "Mike Kilroy"
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 4:05:35 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Fuel Tanks Catalogue-2018

Hello Mike,

Yes, we can quote according to your design with material, weight, dimension details. You could send the design for our engineer to check first and will let you know if need more information.
Also we can develop mold for you based on your design or sample.

The quotation sent to you yesterday is calculated according to MOQ 10 pcs, as you mentioned 10 pcs in previous enquiry. If your qty is more, the price will be lower accordingly.

Regarding certificate, one of our clients took our oil tank sample to do EPA and passed. But we haven't got it. I will send to you once available.

Waiting for your design.

Thank you

Xiamen Mellow Rotomolding Co., Ltd
Marketing Sales: Irene Leung

Email: [ mailto:sale91 | sale91 ]

Tel :+86 133 0602 2875

Wechat:+ 86 180 6095 2662

URL: www.mellow-rotomolding.com

From: [ mailto:mike | mike kilroy ]
Date: 2018-09-06 21:17
To: [ mailto:sale91 | Irene ]
Subject: Re: Fuel Tanks Catalogue-2018
Thank you. They are close but not close enough to what we require.

Would you quote a NEW design for us if we sent you details? If so, what details would you require?

With a MOQ of say 10pc?

Are your tanks certified by any USA government agency for safety or highway use?

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I'd do them like Norris did the plastic black tank in my 23' Stanmdard straps and then slide a piece of 1/16 sheet metal between the straps and tank.
Supported it just fine.

--johnny
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76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
 
50!? How about MOQ of 1 sample first. Having ventured into reproducing car parts, I can say the number of corrections to the first sample can be
daunting. And then having those changes effect other design issues comes into the picture. This is a tough one as most GM tanks, metal or plastic
have all the I/O covered by the sending unit (other than fill).
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John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
 
I think that 1 sample for evaluation is wise, but obtaining a quote for future orders in qtys of 25, 50, & 100 would certainly help with organizing a group purchase. If higher numbers produce substantially lower costs, I’d bet some of the gmc specialty shops would buy in on the deal.

Les Burt
Montreal
'75 Eleganza 26'

>
> 50!? How about MOQ of 1 sample first. Having ventured into reproducing car parts, I can say the number of corrections to the first sample can be
> daunting. And then having those changes effect other design issues comes into the picture. This is a tough one as most GM tanks, metal or plastic
> have all the I/O covered by the sending unit (other than fill).
> --
> John Lebetski
> Woodstock, IL
> 77 Eleganza II
>
>
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