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GURR

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Glad to say some updates, been doing some work on this one.

Obtained a new radiator and did my best to bend the bracket back into shape. Also performed that bracket mod. Looks great! Thanks for the pics on
that.

I'm to the point of trying to start it again and unfortunately, I'm getting a no-start scenario, just cranks. My guesses are in the realm of a few
different things that can be causing this:
1) I replaced the spark plug wires and they are not quite the right style. I also just looked up parts for a similar year/engine vehicle (1973
oldsmobile vista cruiser with a 455)
- plugs were the ACDelco R45TS, now they are Autolite AP86 with an 0.040" gap
- plug wires have a different attachment style to the distributor, I think the distributor might not be stock (it has a "delco-remy" coil on the top
if that helps, I don't see a part number)

Solution: swapping some of these items back is the easiest, most direct way of testing if this is my issue.

2) I replaced the ignition switch, it took a bit of finagling with some items in the steering column, a component DID fall down in the shaft. On
another note, there was also a Red and Black wire that wrapped around the turn signal mechanism. During my removal process, I tried to pry out those
spade connectors, the red one broke, and they are a pretty wonky looking spade connector, doubt I can find one to re-crimp on there.
//The Component//
- I thought it may just be the steering locking mechanism, but maybe that was an important component for contact!
- It looks like a nut on one side and a flat end of a clevis pin on the other
- From what I can tell, it was on the left side, as you turn the key a little bar with a latch sticks out towards the driver, I believe the bottom
comes out from the other end of the steering column with a hook. This hook is also disconnected from whatever is supposed to be down there.
- it fell down when I attempted to remove the turn signal mechanism.
//The Wire//
- above description kinda has it
- What is the red wire for? It looks like a little spring clipped wiper contact (that goes on the bottom side of the ignition switch) is what contacts
these 2 wires.

Solution: I can fish out that component and put it back in the shaft, I can figure out how to make the red wire a complete connection again. This
solution is a bit more difficult and time consuming than (1).

3) Another certain individual had ownership of this vehicle for a month. Under the dash was already a bit of a shit show. I have no idea if he may
have done something along the lines of attempted hot wiring.

Solution: Go through the wires and find out which ones are necessary for the vehicle to run. These things are pretty simple though, not a lot of
things going on, that's why this is last. It might be best to point me to which page in which manual!

Now that the problems are out of the way, I'll go ahead and mention the good things!

Other things done and checked off
- replaced fuel pump (as oil was saturated in gas, I'll probably send in an oil sample next time to see if any damage has occurred)
- removed random external cooler (looked like external for trans)
- compression test (they all hit above 150)
- new compression fitting for external oil pressure gauge (as it was spraying from under the dash when running, "temporary owner" crimped off end of
hose)
- condenser supports (pretty much non-existent, threw some on there)
- spark plugs and wires (although the wires ended up being the wrong style. What wires should I get?)
- replaced our big dinette window!
- new radiator (as mentioned before) from Applied GMC
- new ignition (as mentioned before)

I was able to bring a bike pump and pump up the driver side airbag, found it has some leaks and needs to be replaced, but it holds air for a bit and
probably doesn't have to be done immediately.

I should figure out the picture situation on this forum. Haven't tried yet and I think it would be beneficial if I were to continue posting!

Best,
Gurr
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1973 GMC Motorhome. Obtained from the brink of destruction 05/15/2020 in the middle of the night.

Berkeley, CA
 
Gurr,
I've had troubles posting pics to this forum also, so I joined the GMC Photo Archive. I post my pics there where it is archived under my name and
login. Then post the link to the appropriate pics, to this forum. I have lots of pics there of many of the things I did to my coach, so is easy to go
there if I need to review what I've done. Also then post the links to others that are looking for a solution to their problem.

Example...when someone asks about installing a macerator, I point them to my link about my macerator install....
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3603-macerator-install.html

Just what I do. (JWID) and hope this helps (HTH)
--
Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
 
Thanks for that Larry, I'll try doing that to get some pics up!

Good news! Figured it out. It happened to be the last of the three options. Luckily a buddy came by and that's what we started with (mainly because I
forgot the old spark plug wires and I didn't want to take the steering wheel off again unless we knew what that wire went to). I'm still concerned
with what that wiper contact controls. Looking at some of the wiring diagrams, it may be a pink wire up in the steering column or a red one. Tough to
tell. Doesn't really matter at this point though.

We only found 1.2V going to ignition coil so we knew that we had to either wire the ignition coil to the battery or find where the issue was. What we
had found was that hook that comes out of the bottom of the steering column was supposed to go to that key position switch under the dash. Previous
"temporary owner" (PTO) pulled it off the column and fudged around with it a bit...pulling out the connectors, jamming them back in, folding some of
the spade contacts...but the true culprit was that the ignition was never switched to the "on" position for starting! Once we changed the position we
were getting 12V to the coil again. It seems a little strange that there was that 1.2V floating when the key was off though, no? Not sure what that's
about.

It's actually pretty amazing that everything else is working with the condition it's in, the coil power wire has bare spots all over it, just waiting
to short to the block. Can't wait to start tearing out all that old wiring and redoing it, there's years of accessory wires branching off everywhere
not going to anything in particular. I should probably make sure none of those are going to ground out as well.

Currently the motorhome is in a gravel lot on Treasure Island, gotta get it off before the 17th to avoid paying another month! It's also a little sad,
I'm gonna miss it there.

- Gurr
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1973 GMC Motorhome. Obtained from the brink of destruction 05/15/2020 in the middle of the night.

Berkeley, CA