New Headers

henry davis

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Well we finally got it done. Last week we replaced the old cracked
manifolds with new Thorley ceramic coated headers. What a difference!

When we bought the coach, the exhaust aft of the mufflers had to be
replaced. Since we expected to replace the manifolds one day, I had 3" pipe
installed from the mufflers rearward. SO, my comparison is with stock
manifolds, stock mufflers and 3" exhaust. The pickup is noticeable from
about 1500 RPM upwards. Where the coach used to accelerate with reasonable
speed before, it really gets moving now. The distance to 60MPH from a
standstill is about 20% less than the stock configuration with 3" exhaust.

I used Kroil and had no problem removing the old manifolds. Passenger side
manifold fell apart during the removal (along the middle of the manifold).
Now I need to drive it a few hundred miles and retorque.

There have been a few folks who were concerned about noise levels with
headers. Here's my tests:

Speed Before After
idle 72dB 60dB
45 MPH 85dB 63dB
60 MPH 94dB 71dB

The majority of the noise is wind noise that is coming from my front
windows. Tests were made with a Radio Shack SPL meter held at shoulder
height facing the front then sides of the cab area. Measurements are the
highest of the numbers. The before numbers are with the cracked manifold. I
think that I can get about 5dB out of the cab area just by eliminating the
wind noise - engine noise alone at 3000 RPM makes the cab sit at 64dB.

Henry

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>Hi Henry!
>Now that is a nice test--It would be nice someday to get some readings from
>another coach with original manifolds with no exhaust leaks. I didn't even
>know RS sold decibel readers.

I'm carrying my meter with me in the coach. So, when I get around another
GMC with stock configuration I'll measure it. I think that the thing to do
is measure a number of coaches so that I can factor out airleaks, road
noise etc. In the meantime I have a tool to help me make my coach quieter.

> >Thorley ceramic coated headers
>Can you buy them already coated from Thorley?-- care to share the cost?

Tax, title, delivery to my door was $544. It includes the gasket set and a
heat riser assembly to attach to your header. I bought them direct from HPC
(and probably paid a bit more) since that eliminated two shipping costs.
HPC got the headers without chrome and then coated them.

Henry
 
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>heat riser assembly to attach to your header. I bought them direct from HPC
>(and probably paid a bit more) since that eliminated two shipping costs.
>HPC got the headers without chrome and then coated them.
>
>Henry >>
>
>Hi Henry -- what did you do about a "Y" to connect the two headers to your 3"
>tailpipe? Did you fabricate this or is there one commercially available?


I had a 'Y' pipe fabricated. My local muffler guy did it for me.

Henry
 
Emery:

Flowmaster has a variety of Y-pipes available.

Paul Bartz

From: owner-gmcmotorhome
[mailto:owner-gmcmotorhome]On Behalf Of Henry Davis
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 10:37 PM

>
>heat riser assembly to attach to your header. I bought them direct from HPC
>(and probably paid a bit more) since that eliminated two shipping costs.
>HPC got the headers without chrome and then coated them.
>
>Henry >>
>
>Hi Henry -- what did you do about a "Y" to connect the two headers to your 3"
>tailpipe? Did you fabricate this or is there one commercially available?

I had a 'Y' pipe fabricated. My local muffler guy did it for me.

Henry