my new '78 Eleganza

neely butler

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Just got it home Saturday. Sure I will have many dumb questions. This
is first. How do you get that long, large power cord back in that
little compartment?? I am sure there must be a trick to it.
Neely B.
'78 Eleganza
Tenn.
 
Is there a more flexible replacement on the market, one that will
handle 50 amps?
Herm.

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> Just got it home Saturday. Sure I will have many dumb questions.
This
> is first. How do you get that long, large power cord back in that
> little compartment?? I am sure there must be a trick to it.
> Neely B.
> '78 Eleganza
> Tenn.
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Herm:

If you have an original coach, I doubt that you're electrical system is
capable of utilizing 50 amps. I'm uncertain though, what service came
with coaches having two rooftop A/C units. Perhaps, they required
greater power service????

Secondly, it's my understanding that few campgrounds even have such
service.

I believe that if you check your panel, your main breaker is more than
likely < 50 amps.

Most owners I'm aware of have eliminated the original heavy gauge power
cable in favor of a smaller gauge one with a 30 amp rating. I'm in the
process of doing so in conjunction with the automatic switching station
that Byron Maxwell from Boerne TX sells. I picked one up from him at
Marion SC last month. With it, I will no longer have to
connect/disconnect the plug from the generator outlet when plugging into
shore power.

Paul Bartz

From: herm beeck [mailto:hbeeck]
Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: GMC: my new '78 Eleganza

Is there a more flexible replacement on the market, one that will handle
50 amps?

Just got it home Saturday. Sure I will have many dumb questions.

This is first. How do you get that long, large power cord back in that
little compartment?? I am sure there must be a trick to it.
 
The previous owner of my coach shortened the original cord to about 24".
This leaves adequate length for plugging into the Onan receptacle, and then
I have various length, more flexible, 30 Amp cords that I carry. I use a
"dog bone" adapter to take the shore power 30 Amp to my 50 Amp plug. I
have a single air conditioner, so the 30 amp is adequate.

Chuck
77 Kingsley
North Idaho

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> Just got it home Saturday. Sure I will have many dumb questions. This
> is first. How do you get that long, large power cord back in that
> little compartment?? I am sure there must be a trick to it.
> Neely B.
> '78 Eleganza
> Tenn.
>
 
TV technicians (as well as others) solved this problem years ago. It's
hard to describe, but you have to put a reverse twist to each loop when
you coil the cable. You can easily fit the 50 amp cable into its
cubbyhole performing this maneuver.

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> Is there a more flexible replacement on the market, one that will
> handle 50 amps?
> Herm.
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> > is first. How do you get that long, large power cord back in that
> > little compartment?? I am sure there must be a trick to it.
> > Neely B.
> > '78 Eleganza
> > Tenn.
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To answer your question about a more flexible power cord,I came buy a cord
that is flexible even in the cold.
The markings on the cord are--- 10AWG 4/c type sow-a
105c 600v UL ----- As you can see its 10ga. four conductor,
it's yellow in color. Now all I have to do is get the 4 prong plug and the
old will be replaced and wind up will be easy!
As a side point, when you plug into shore power ALWAYS
extend your "big cord" all the way out of storage and lay out or at least do
not leave coiled. A wire coiled creates heat and could, under the right
conditions, cause a fire.
Tim Colf
75 Palm Beach
Bflo.N.Y.
 
Just a note, 10ga. wire is rated for 30 amp service, the main breakers in our
personal coach are 40 amp, and shore power breakers for the 4prong plug are
usually 50 amp.. You could con overload the cord causing it to heat up and
thereby create a possible fire hazard. If your coach has main breakers rated at
30 amp it would reduce the risk, but you still would be subject to an unlikely
coach main breaker failure, and then be dependent on the shore power 50 amp
breaker (almost twice the load rating of the wire). If you are using the
220v/10a wire to power 2 rooftop a/c's and of course the power converter you
will be near or beyond the capacity of the wire. If you substitute 2 cube
heaters for the 2 a/c's the same problem exists. Just as a rough rule of thumb
most power consuming electrical appliances have a watt rating. if you divide
watt rating by 100 you'll get the approx. amp draw (1500 watt heater will draw
about 15 amps).
These are some thoughts you might want to consider
Stephen
73 x-Painted Desert
Nortwest Indiana

> To answer your question about a more flexible power cord,I came buy a cord
> that is flexible even in the cold.
> The markings on the cord are--- 10AWG 4/c type sow-a
> 105c 600v UL ----- As you can see its 10ga. four conductor,
> it's yellow in color. Now all I have to do is get the 4 prong plug and the
> old will be replaced and wind up will be easy!
> As a side point, when you plug into shore power ALWAYS
> extend your "big cord" all the way out of storage and lay out or at least do
> not leave coiled. A wire coiled creates heat and could, under the right
> conditions, cause a fire.
> Tim Colf
> 75 Palm Beach
> Bflo.N.Y.
 
>
> The previous owner of my coach shortened the original cord to about 24".
> This leaves adequate length for plugging into the Onan receptacle, and then
> I have various length, more flexible, 30 Amp cords that I carry. I use a
> "dog bone" adapter to take the shore power 30 Amp to my 50 Amp plug. I
> have a single air conditioner, so the 30 amp is adequate.
>
> Chuck
> 77 Kingsley
> North Idaho
>
> >
> > Just got it home Saturday. Sure I will have many dumb questions. This
> > is first. How do you get that long, large power cord back in that
> > little compartment?? I am sure there must be a trick to it.
> > Neely B.
> > '78 Eleganza
> > Tenn.
> >
I did the same thing to my coach; I shortened the 50 amp power cord. It
works very well for me!!!!
Jack Ford
"77" Kingsley
Novi, Mi.
 
Neely B.,
All of the thread pertaining to your stiff power cord are veery good. As
you can see, there have been and will continue to be many ways GMC owners
use to overcome this common problem.

Actually, I prefer a combination of several solutions.

There is a great deal of wisdome in keeping the 8ga. 50amp wire on the
breaker box. If you have only one AC unit though, a 30 amp cord will work.
I install a 10' section of 8ga. 4cond. SOW-A (which is more flexible than
OEM) wire with a 50 amp. plug, then make up a 10' extension cord with
50amp. ends. I supply a 50-30amp dog bone & a 50-20 amp. adaptor.

This combination will give you a great deal of power soure and length
flexibility.

I do use the switchover box if the customer wants to have a convient system
(with this you do not have to wrastle the 50amp. plug into the generator
output recepticle.

This probobly sounds difficult but is actually very simple to set up.

Good luck on making your shore power hook up easier.

Jim Bounds www.gmccoop.com / Orlando Florida
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>Just got it home Saturday. Sure I will have many dumb questions. This
>is first. How do you get that long, large power cord back in that
>little compartment?? I am sure there must be a trick to it.
>Neely B.
>'78 Eleganza
>Tenn.
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