MSD Atomic fuel injection
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Hundreds I think are running the atomic.
most atomic users are silent, as it seems they don't have problems with the system. Alex F ran one, Miguel down in South florida will only install
MSD Atomic systems. I can't seem to find much bad things about the MSD atomic or people having problems.
When I did my research, I personally felt that the
#1 used system was the GM based Howell, or some similar or upgraded from howell (howell upgraded to ebl). People have been installing and running
those systems for decades.
#2 MSD atomic - this was the first "all in one" type that I seen people installing on GMC's. started out expensive, but when fi-tech came on the
market- they slashed price.
#3 fi-tech came on and lots of people installed that system due to price point. People still installing them, and others curse the product. (talk
to Bob - owner of the beast- he feels fitech costed him two engines?)
#4 logs of holly snipers getting installed now
I choosed the GM rochester with EBL system. I felt it had a good history and lots of support within the gmc community. and for the DIY- it was
cheaper. (not cheaper if you by the kit)
--
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
most atomic users are silent, as it seems they don't have problems with the system. Alex F ran one, Miguel down in South florida will only install
MSD Atomic systems. I can't seem to find much bad things about the MSD atomic or people having problems.
When I did my research, I personally felt that the
#1 used system was the GM based Howell, or some similar or upgraded from howell (howell upgraded to ebl). People have been installing and running
those systems for decades.
#2 MSD atomic - this was the first "all in one" type that I seen people installing on GMC's. started out expensive, but when fi-tech came on the
market- they slashed price.
#3 fi-tech came on and lots of people installed that system due to price point. People still installing them, and others curse the product. (talk
to Bob - owner of the beast- he feels fitech costed him two engines?)
#4 logs of holly snipers getting installed now
I choosed the GM rochester with EBL system. I felt it had a good history and lots of support within the gmc community. and for the DIY- it was
cheaper. (not cheaper if you by the kit)
--
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
The PO put an Atomic system on my coach. He mentioned 'muguel still has the carb' indicating he wasn't entirely happy with it. After going through
the setup, it starts and runs well. I haven't had it on the highway to check, but it was happy on the highway when I got it... it just wanted to hunt
at idle, sometimes enough to quit. Setting the idle stops seems to of cured it. I don't have the timing control module with it, stock HEI for
sparks. As I understand it, it';s kosher in CA for smog purposes, which is probably why it was used. Miguel does a lot of them.
--johnny
--
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
the setup, it starts and runs well. I haven't had it on the highway to check, but it was happy on the highway when I got it... it just wanted to hunt
at idle, sometimes enough to quit. Setting the idle stops seems to of cured it. I don't have the timing control module with it, stock HEI for
sparks. As I understand it, it';s kosher in CA for smog purposes, which is probably why it was used. Miguel does a lot of them.
--johnny
--
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
My MSD Atomic FI has been running flawlessly since installing 3 years ago. It doesn’t improve gas mpg, but it does improve performance.
If I had the money, the Howell would be the ultimate. But I don’t have any complaints with the MSD.
Scott.
--
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera
installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
If I had the money, the Howell would be the ultimate. But I don’t have any complaints with the MSD.
Scott.
--
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera
installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
MSD units like the other Throttle Body units does not have the FULL
Ignition control.
WE sell them All but I get complaints about fuel consumption .
This goes to Computer control of Ignition.
EFI is a loosely used term.
We have terrific results with the Howell based unit with the EBL ECM that
we program and it is ALL plug and play.
You can go to our site and look .
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 8:25 AM Scott Nutter via Gmclist <
> My MSD Atomic FI has been running flawlessly since installing 3 years ago.
> It doesn’t improve gas mpg, but it does improve performance.
> If I had the money, the Howell would be the ultimate. But I don’t have any
> complaints with the MSD.
> Scott.
> --
> Scott Nutter
> 1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final
> drive, Quad bags, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera
> installed MSD Atomic EFI
> Houston, Texas
>
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1-800-752-7502
Ignition control.
WE sell them All but I get complaints about fuel consumption .
This goes to Computer control of Ignition.
EFI is a loosely used term.
We have terrific results with the Howell based unit with the EBL ECM that
we program and it is ALL plug and play.
You can go to our site and look .
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 8:25 AM Scott Nutter via Gmclist <
> My MSD Atomic FI has been running flawlessly since installing 3 years ago.
> It doesn’t improve gas mpg, but it does improve performance.
> If I had the money, the Howell would be the ultimate. But I don’t have any
> complaints with the MSD.
> Scott.
> --
> Scott Nutter
> 1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final
> drive, Quad bags, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera
> installed MSD Atomic EFI
> Houston, Texas
>
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Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.gmcrvparts.com
1-800-752-7502
Great if you're not far from Home. Not too great if you need mail order parts. And end up stuck somewhere for days for parts needed. I like the idea that every parts store has everything I may need. Bob Dunahugh
I wonder, how does the Howell setup with all the bells and whistles compare to the MSD with the timing control unit?
--johnny
--
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
--johnny
--
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Problem with going with Howell or GM with EBL is cost here in Canada.....by the time i get the EBL, and the used TBI plus harness etc (even from the
mans mall) and if its not corroded beyond life is im at the cost, possibly more than a good used EFI system with all the add ons...so is it really
that much better?
Someone said i can get stuff from GM instead of waiting if something goes wrong....thats a valid point and its a good one but how many EFI kits have
left people stranded?
The one thing holding me back is i hate having adaptors under a carb....to many vacumm leak potentials when you start stacking between gaskets like
that but im willing to give it a shot at a reasonable canadian price as the exchange etc just kills any US possibilities unless it super cheap (which
doesnt exist in the efi world).
--
Rich Mondor,
Brockville, ON
77 Hughes 2600
mans mall) and if its not corroded beyond life is im at the cost, possibly more than a good used EFI system with all the add ons...so is it really
that much better?
Someone said i can get stuff from GM instead of waiting if something goes wrong....thats a valid point and its a good one but how many EFI kits have
left people stranded?
The one thing holding me back is i hate having adaptors under a carb....to many vacumm leak potentials when you start stacking between gaskets like
that but im willing to give it a shot at a reasonable canadian price as the exchange etc just kills any US possibilities unless it super cheap (which
doesnt exist in the efi world).
--
Rich Mondor,
Brockville, ON
77 Hughes 2600
MSD timing control cannot even compare to the EBL ECM..
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 6:44 AM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist <
> Problem with going with Howell or GM with EBL is cost here in
> Canada.....by the time i get the EBL, and the used TBI plus harness etc
> (even from the
> mans mall) and if its not corroded beyond life is im at the cost, possibly
> more than a good used EFI system with all the add ons...so is it really
> that much better?
>
> Someone said i can get stuff from GM instead of waiting if something goes
> wrong....thats a valid point and its a good one but how many EFI kits have
> left people stranded?
>
> The one thing holding me back is i hate having adaptors under a carb....to
> many vacumm leak potentials when you start stacking between gaskets like
> that but im willing to give it a shot at a reasonable canadian price as
> the exchange etc just kills any US possibilities unless it super cheap
> (which
> doesnt exist in the efi world).
> --
> Rich Mondor,
>
> Brockville, ON
>
> 77 Hughes 2600
>
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Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.gmcrvparts.com
1-800-752-7502
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 6:44 AM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist <
> Problem with going with Howell or GM with EBL is cost here in
> Canada.....by the time i get the EBL, and the used TBI plus harness etc
> (even from the
> mans mall) and if its not corroded beyond life is im at the cost, possibly
> more than a good used EFI system with all the add ons...so is it really
> that much better?
>
> Someone said i can get stuff from GM instead of waiting if something goes
> wrong....thats a valid point and its a good one but how many EFI kits have
> left people stranded?
>
> The one thing holding me back is i hate having adaptors under a carb....to
> many vacumm leak potentials when you start stacking between gaskets like
> that but im willing to give it a shot at a reasonable canadian price as
> the exchange etc just kills any US possibilities unless it super cheap
> (which
> doesnt exist in the efi world).
> --
> Rich Mondor,
>
> Brockville, ON
>
> 77 Hughes 2600
>
> _______________________________________________
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Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.gmcrvparts.com
1-800-752-7502
If you have problems with adapters leaking, maybe you need to discuss that
with people that know.
I know I call lot of people and get fresh ideas every week.
> MSD timing control cannot even compare to the EBL ECM..
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 6:44 AM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist <
>
>> Problem with going with Howell or GM with EBL is cost here in
>> Canada.....by the time i get the EBL, and the used TBI plus harness etc
>> (even from the
>> mans mall) and if its not corroded beyond life is im at the cost,
>> possibly more than a good used EFI system with all the add ons...so is it
>> really
>> that much better?
>>
>> Someone said i can get stuff from GM instead of waiting if something goes
>> wrong....thats a valid point and its a good one but how many EFI kits have
>> left people stranded?
>>
>> The one thing holding me back is i hate having adaptors under a
>> carb....to many vacumm leak potentials when you start stacking between
>> gaskets like
>> that but im willing to give it a shot at a reasonable canadian price as
>> the exchange etc just kills any US possibilities unless it super cheap
>> (which
>> doesnt exist in the efi world).
>> --
>> Rich Mondor,
>>
>> Brockville, ON
>>
>> 77 Hughes 2600
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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>
>
> --
> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
> jimk
> http://www.gmcrvparts.com
> 1-800-752-7502
>
--
Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.gmcrvparts.com
1-800-752-7502
with people that know.
I know I call lot of people and get fresh ideas every week.
> MSD timing control cannot even compare to the EBL ECM..
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 6:44 AM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist <
>
>> Problem with going with Howell or GM with EBL is cost here in
>> Canada.....by the time i get the EBL, and the used TBI plus harness etc
>> (even from the
>> mans mall) and if its not corroded beyond life is im at the cost,
>> possibly more than a good used EFI system with all the add ons...so is it
>> really
>> that much better?
>>
>> Someone said i can get stuff from GM instead of waiting if something goes
>> wrong....thats a valid point and its a good one but how many EFI kits have
>> left people stranded?
>>
>> The one thing holding me back is i hate having adaptors under a
>> carb....to many vacumm leak potentials when you start stacking between
>> gaskets like
>> that but im willing to give it a shot at a reasonable canadian price as
>> the exchange etc just kills any US possibilities unless it super cheap
>> (which
>> doesnt exist in the efi world).
>> --
>> Rich Mondor,
>>
>> Brockville, ON
>>
>> 77 Hughes 2600
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
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>
>
> --
> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
> jimk
> http://www.gmcrvparts.com
> 1-800-752-7502
>
--
Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.gmcrvparts.com
1-800-752-7502
Jim i dont think many people can understand the level of corrosion we deal with here nor the severety of the temperature fluctuations and what that
does to engines.
I deal with engineers and tech services everyday....its hard to discuss stuff like this with them when they've only experienced 60 to 80 degrees and
20 days of rain yearly.
Q
> If you have problems with adapters leaking, maybe you need to discuss that
> with people that know.
> I know I call lot of people and get fresh ideas every week.
>
>
> > MSD timing control cannot even compare to the EBL ECM..
> >
> >
> >> Problem with going with Howell or GM with EBL is cost here in
> >> Canada.....by the time i get the EBL, and the used TBI plus harness etc
> >> (even from the
> >> mans mall) and if its not corroded beyond life is im at the cost,
> >> possibly more than a good used EFI system with all the add ons...so is it
> >> really
> >> that much better?
> >>
> >> Someone said i can get stuff from GM instead of waiting if something goes
> >> wrong....thats a valid point and its a good one but how many EFI kits have
> >> left people stranded?
> >>
> >> The one thing holding me back is i hate having adaptors under a
> >> carb....to many vacumm leak potentials when you start stacking between
> >> gaskets like
> >> that but im willing to give it a shot at a reasonable canadian price as
> >> the exchange etc just kills any US possibilities unless it super cheap
> >> (which
> >> doesnt exist in the efi world).
> >> --
> >> Rich Mondor,
> >>
> >> Brockville, ON
> >>
> >> 77 Hughes 2600
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> GMCnet mailing list
> >> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> >> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jim Kanomata
> > Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
> > jimk
> > http://www.gmcrvparts.com
> > 1-800-752-7502
> >
>
>
> --
> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
> jimk
> http://www.gmcrvparts.com
> 1-800-752-7502
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Brockville, ON
77 Hughes 2600
does to engines.
I deal with engineers and tech services everyday....its hard to discuss stuff like this with them when they've only experienced 60 to 80 degrees and
20 days of rain yearly.
Q
> If you have problems with adapters leaking, maybe you need to discuss that
> with people that know.
> I know I call lot of people and get fresh ideas every week.
>
>
> > MSD timing control cannot even compare to the EBL ECM..
> >
> >
> >> Problem with going with Howell or GM with EBL is cost here in
> >> Canada.....by the time i get the EBL, and the used TBI plus harness etc
> >> (even from the
> >> mans mall) and if its not corroded beyond life is im at the cost,
> >> possibly more than a good used EFI system with all the add ons...so is it
> >> really
> >> that much better?
> >>
> >> Someone said i can get stuff from GM instead of waiting if something goes
> >> wrong....thats a valid point and its a good one but how many EFI kits have
> >> left people stranded?
> >>
> >> The one thing holding me back is i hate having adaptors under a
> >> carb....to many vacumm leak potentials when you start stacking between
> >> gaskets like
> >> that but im willing to give it a shot at a reasonable canadian price as
> >> the exchange etc just kills any US possibilities unless it super cheap
> >> (which
> >> doesnt exist in the efi world).
> >> --
> >> Rich Mondor,
> >>
> >> Brockville, ON
> >>
> >> 77 Hughes 2600
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> GMCnet mailing list
> >> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> >> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jim Kanomata
> > Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
> > jimk
> > http://www.gmcrvparts.com
> > 1-800-752-7502
> >
>
>
> --
> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
> jimk
> http://www.gmcrvparts.com
> 1-800-752-7502
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Rich Mondor,
Brockville, ON
77 Hughes 2600
