Mid wheel brake systems / E-brake

kspriggs

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Hi guys,
Looking for some advise on upgrading the mid wheels to disc brakes. I know Dave makes a nice system but was curious what ebrake systems would work
with it. If anyone has a similar set up I like to know what you like/dislike etc and if there were any issues with the install.

Thanx guys

Kevin
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1977 GMC Royale 403
 
You can leave the drums on the rear axle and modify the cable to pull only on the rear drums. Or you can put Cadillac calipers in the rear with their parking brake setup in the caliper or you can putchase Lenzi’s hydraulic disc brake setup which adds a small caliper to his disk for a parking brake

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick CO

Emery

>
> Hi guys,
> Looking for some advise on upgrading the mid wheels to disc brakes. I know Dave makes a nice system but was curious what ebrake systems would work
> with it. If anyone has a similar set up I like to know what you like/dislike etc and if there were any issues with the install.
>
> Thanx guys
>
> Kevin
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> 1977 GMC Royale 403
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When I get my California property taxes paid this year, my next purchase will be Dave Lenzi's mid rear disc brakes with the parking brake setup.
--
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera
installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
 
Just paid mine. $528 for house and 2 1/2 acre lot. Including GMC shelter.

--johnny
--
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
 
Johnny,
Save me a space....I'm moving in!!!
Scott
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Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera
installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
 
As long as you don't mimic the a$$holes who sleaze up here from the city and then try to make it a city in outlook. Road Atlanta is like half a mile
from me. They built this subdivision up the highway a bit. All the inhabitants bitch about the noise from the racetrack. I'm like how stupid can
you be to buy a medium high dollar house without cruising the neighborhood? In that they have an HOA, the answer is pretty stupid. Some stop or
cruise slowly by when they see my GMC though. I'm walking Duke a few years back, one of these bozos says the HOA only allows 35 pound dogs. I told
him he should weigh the boy if he thinks he can get away with it (Duke was a 130 pound Kuvasz boy) and we had Words along the lines of it's a county
road, I'll walk it as I please.

--johnny
--
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
 
What ever you do, get the Full Floating Brakes ( Aka reaction arm), drum or disk, as that is the only thing that will prevent the forward trailing arm from jacking up the coach when you stop.
Nothing else matters
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As long as you don't mimic the a$$holes who sleaze up here from the city and then try to make it a city in outlook. Road Atlanta is like half a mile
from me. They built this subdivision up the highway a bit. All the inhabitants bitch about the noise from the racetrack. I'm like how stupid can
you be to buy a medium high dollar house without cruising the neighborhood? In that they have an HOA, the answer is pretty stupid. Some stop or
cruise slowly by when they see my GMC though. I'm walking Duke a few years back, one of these bozos says the HOA only allows 35 pound dogs. I told
him he should weigh the boy if he thinks he can get away with it (Duke was a 130 pound Kuvasz boy) and we had Words along the lines of it's a county
road, I'll walk it as I please.

--johnny
--
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell

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I don't believe reaction arms for the mids are possible with Dave Lenzi's system. Curious what just a reaction arm on the rears would do - if
anything.
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Bill Van Vlack
'76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid
November 2015.
 
FWIW, I was looking for better brakes without breaking the bank, and ended up installing a set of high-performance pads from Jim K (awesome pads,
BTW), as well as a set of the larger slave cylinders on the middle axles. The theory is that will put proportionally more braking on the middle axles
than the rears. All I know is that my coach went from being a white-knuckle driver in traffic to one that'll stop when and where I want it to. Sure,
if I'm tailgating a 'vette and he slams on the brakes my Royale is going to have a fiberglass hood ornament, but the coach really does stop
impressively well now.
--
Mark Hickey
Mesa, AZ
1978 Royale Center Kitchen
 
> I don't believe reaction arms for the mids are possible with Dave Lenzi's system. Curious what just a reaction arm on the rears would do - if
> anything.

Bill,

If you are not putting the reaction arms on the intermediate, just don't bother with the rest. All they will do is make the flat spots on the rear a
little smaller. The "pole vault" of the intermediate will unload the rear enough to make it useless.

Or, that is what my dynamic analysis showed.

Matt

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Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
 
Empirically on the 23' and the 26' marked stopping improvement. Would not mess much with one without.

--johnny
--
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
 
> FWIW, I was looking for better brakes without breaking the bank, and ended up installing a set of high-performance pads from Jim K (awesome pads,
> BTW), as well as a set of the larger slave cylinders on the middle axles. The theory is that will put proportionally more braking on the middle
> axles than the rears. All I know is that my coach went from being a white-knuckle driver in traffic to one that'll stop when and where I want it
> to. Sure, if I'm tailgating a 'vette and he slams on the brakes my Royale is going to have a fiberglass hood ornament, but the coach really does
> stop impressively well now.

Can you send me the name and part numbers of what you had installed on the coach?

Thanx

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1977 GMC Royale 403
 
The brake shoes were the part number GM04-METBRASH from Applied (Jim K).

The brake cylinder was the 1-1/16" (vs. stock 15/16") unit, part number GM4-020-12.1

HUGE difference in braking, though I also put in a brake spring / bushing kit and of course cleaned and adjusted everything.
--
Mark Hickey
Mesa, AZ
1978 Royale Center Kitchen