LS swap into GMC motorhome

On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:43 AM, Todd Snyder via Gmclist wrote: > 100% of the time, the answer shouldn't be 'call vendor X'=
so I can pay double for a part that I could walk in and get at my local NA=
PA. If it is so easy to source parts then why don=E2=80=99t YOU just =
go into your local NAPA, plop your part down on the counter and let THEM do=
the legwork of finding a proper replacement? Many of the cross-referenced =
parts have been discovered by spending hours pawing through the back room o=
f a NAPA or some other supplier to find the right item. Some parts have to =
be modified in order to work correctly in the GMC MH application and someon=
e had to take the time to make mods, test them, refine the mods, test the r=
efinements and only then can a part be sold with confidence. That NRE has a=
cost associated with it and is difficult to recoup in such a low volume ma=
rket. I have personally spent many hundreds of dollars buying ignition part=
s, voltage regulators, actuators and other items to develop solutions to ke=
ep our Onans running for another 40 years and many of those parts turned ou=
t to be not suitable for the application and I had to eat the cost. MANY ot=
hers in the GMC community have spent thousands of dollars and thousands of =
hours in totality to develop intake manifolds, aluminum castings, radiators=
, new front suspensions, brake systems, stainless brake line sets, airbag r=
eplacements and a myriad of other things that can now be bought from a vend=
or and simply dropped into place with known positive results. How abou=
t this example - you want front wheel bearings and we give you the Timken L=
numbers for the cups and cones and you go buy them yourself to save 75% of=
f what our vendors charge. Within a few hundred miles you=E2=80=99ll find o=
ut with great fanfare that there is more to the story. There are three diff=
erent versions of the Toronado front wheel bearings with virtually identica=
l numbering and two of those versions will destroy themselves in VERY short=
order if you put them in your coach. Our suppliers know how to source the =
correct sets and know how to DOUBLE CHECK them to be correct before they se=
ll them to you. I also do not know where this =E2=80=9Cpay double=
=E2=80=9D concept comes from. I sell a couple things at wholesale to JimK a=
nd I also know what he sells them for at retail on his website. I assure yo=
u it is neither double what I charged him nor =E2=80=9Cdouble what its wort=
h=E2=80=9D. I have found the same to be true for the other GMC vendors I=
=E2=80=99ve bought from. Can you provide some examples of items on which ou=
r vendors are gouging us with a 100% profit margin compared to other non-GM=
C suppliers? =E2=80=94Jim Jim Miller 1977 Eleganza 1977 Ro=
yale Hamilton, OH
 
Todd - as a relatively new owner myself, I can say that I also took offence at your comments regarding "call vendor X" so you can pay double. You say
you did not mean any offense. Well it certainly sounded like you were accusing him and other vendors on this site of overcharging. the answer
shouldn't be 'call vendor X' so I can pay double for a part that I could walk in and get at my local NAPA. I have spent hours on the phone with Jim
K, who, in response to questions I posted in the forum, told me to call & offered to spend that time with me, not to sell me a part, but to give me
assistance in troubleshooting. Generally speaking, when the advice "call one of the Jims" is passed along, it is because it is most likely that you
won't find that part at your local NAPA, or will end up with the wrong part due to changes in the part configuration with no change in the part
number. And there are uncounted instances here (and not just in the parts interchange on GMCMI or bdub's site) where members have discussed what they
have subbed a GMC part with, how well it worked, what they had to do to make it work, etc, etc. The answer is NOT 100% of the time "call vendor X"

So don't turn your nose up at good advice, given with the best of intentions, by folks that have been doing this a very long time, to keep you from
going down a rabbit hole. "Ask Jim K" will get you the correct information and a part that will work.
--
Deb McWade
Logan Lake, BC, CAN
"Li'l Sister"
'77 Kingsley, 403, EBL EFI;
TZE167V101404
It's Bigger on the Inside!
 
I think because as a group, there are a bunch of inveterate tinkerers [myself included] who constantly try new ideas to build a better mouse trap.

Some work out better than others.

Parts availabilty down the road is a concern.

Heres the thing: even if you could increase the milage by 50% [which is a mean feat unto itself] the mods would likely never pay for themselves.

THat said, someday mine will end up with low boost turbocharging.I already have most of the parts needed.

--
76 Glenbrook
 
I too love to tinker and believe in the DYI world....(i raced motorcycles professionally and made most of my own parts). That being said i will source
things locally if possible and try to upgrade as well but sometimes their is no better part them OEM so these guys are a must.

So if you want to LS do it and take plenty of pics for those that cant do it themselves....if it works out great you can kit it....if it doesnt, oh
well....for me, its fun to try.
--
Rich Mondor,

Brockville, ON

77 Hughes 2600
 
Todd, Apparently you are a fairly new GMC motorhome owner.=C2=A0 I've bee=
n around as an owner for nearly 20-years, for a while as a custom steering =
wheel vendor, but most of the time as an owner and customer.=C2=A0 Years ag=
o, after I first bought our coach, I bought a lot of parts from the "Jims" =
but for the last few years I honestly haven't needed much so haven't bought=
much.=C2=A0 I learned long ago from personal experience that you can count=
on our vendors as consultants and reliable suppliers.=C2=A0 They deal cons=
tantly with our beloved coaches and many times when you call with a questio=
n they know the answer before you finish the question.=C2=A0 Maybe NAPA, Au=
toZone, Advance Auto and O'Reilly are intimately familiar with the GMC moto=
rhome in your town but that's not the case where most of us live.=C2=A0 Yes=
, you can purchase items such as light bulbs and heater hose from these pla=
ces but try buying a GMC motorhome specific carburetor, rear window latch o=
r a thousand other GMC motorhome specific items.=C2=A0 Our suppliers carry =
these low turnover items that you need when you need them.=C2=A0 As you, kn=
ow, it costs money to buy and maintain inventory.=C2=A0 In order to stay in=
business, our suppliers make up for the costs associated with low turnover=
items by also supplying higher turnover parts at reasonable prices.=C2=
=A0 Many times their prices are the same or even lower than local suppliers=
and sometimes they might be a bit higher.=C2=A0 However, we need to buy al=
l we can from them in order to keep them around for when we need the "uniqu=
e to our coaches" items.=C2=A0 A huge added benefit to dealing with them is=
when you call it's like talking to an old friend who loves the GMC motorho=
me as much as you do.=C2=A0 A guy who will answer a question when you're st=
umped and, after you meet him personally at a rally, will inquire about you=
r family or your health.=C2=A0 Todd, these are people to treat well, to be =
a friend to, and to support. =C2=A0 A long time ago my parents, and likely =
yours, told me if you can't say anything nice about someone, don't say anyt=
hing at all.=C2=A0 That remains good advise for all of us.=C2=A0 All the =
best, Tom Whitton26 foot updated GMCPaducah, KY
 
Well said Tom Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 22, 2019, at 11:58 AM,=
THOMAS R WHITTON via Gmclist wrote: > > Tod=
d, > Apparently you are a fairly new GMC motorhome owner. I've been arou=
nd as an owner for nearly 20-years, for a while as a custom steering wheel =
vendor, but most of the time as an owner and customer. Years ago, after I =
first bought our coach, I bought a lot of parts from the "Jims" but for the=
last few years I honestly haven't needed much so haven't bought much. I l=
earned long ago from personal experience that you can count on our vendors =
as consultants and reliable suppliers. They deal constantly with our belov=
ed coaches and many times when you call with a question they know the answe=
r before you finish the question. Maybe NAPA, AutoZone, Advance Auto and O=
'Reilly are intimately familiar with the GMC motorhome in your town but tha=
t's not the case where most of us live. Yes, you can purchase items such a=
s light bulbs and heater hose from these places but try buying a GMC motorh=
ome specific carburetor, rear window latch or a thousand other GMC motorhom=
e specific items. Our suppliers carry these low turnover items that you ne=
ed when you need them. As you, know, it costs money to buy and maintain in=
ventory. In order to stay in business, our suppliers make up for the costs=
associated with low turnover items by also supplying higher turnover parts=
at reasonable prices. Many times their prices are the same or even lower =
than local suppliers and sometimes they might be a bit higher. However, we=
need to buy all we can from them in order to keep them around for when we =
need the "unique to our coaches" items. A huge added benefit to dealing wi=
th them is when you call it's like talking to an old friend who loves the G=
MC motorhome as much as you do. A guy who will answer a question when you'=
re stumped and, after you meet him personally at a rally, will inquire abou=
t your family or your health. Todd, these are people to treat well, to be =
a friend to, and to support. A long time ago my parents, and likely yours=
, told me if you can't say anything nice about someone, don't say anything =
at all. That remains good advise for all of us. > All the best, > Tom=
Whitton26 foot updated GMCPaducah, KY > > > ______________________=
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In the same light-
HP. You want the least amount of power that still gives enough ability to pass and make grades

Octane- you want the lowest octane that does not ping under the conditions you have set up.

Batteries- you want the smallest CCA that will start you in the coldest conditions expected and still have some small reserve. Larger batteries
present a lower impedance to alternator ( even when fully charged) and cost economy.

The list could go on....
--
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
 
I want a reliable drive train that will take me over the mountain passes in
the united states as well as a 32.000 lb. 400 HP Diesel pusher with a
6-speed transmission.

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 10:44 AM John R. Lebetski via Gmclist <

> In the same light-
> HP. You want the least amount of power that still gives enough ability to
> pass and make grades
>
> Octane- you want the lowest octane that does not ping under the conditions
> you have set up.
>
> Batteries- you want the smallest CCA that will start you in the coldest
> conditions expected and still have some small reserve. Larger batteries
> present a lower impedance to alternator ( even when fully charged) and
> cost economy.
>
> The list could go on....
> --
> John Lebetski
> Woodstock, IL
> 77 Eleganza II
>
>
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*John Phillips*
 
It's a thin area between insult and condescension in which advice is given. Now and again the presentation crosses the line on either side of it,
unintentionally. It happens, suck it up and go on, and try not to repeat. At times you'll have no choice.

--johnny
--
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
 
Sorry I had to take a couple days off on this topic that seems to have touched a nerve. Plus I was camping at a bluegrass festival with the GMC last
week so that made ignoring this easy.

Deb wrote: "Todd - as a relatively new owner myself, I can say that I also took offence at your comments regarding "call vendor X" so you can pay
double. You say you did not mean any offense. Well it certainly sounded like you were accusing him and other vendors on this site of overcharging."

Deb, are you a vendor? If not, seriously? This offended you?

Someone had mentioned that they could use front wheel bearings as an example of why we so desperately need to be able to call the Jims (and tie up how
many hours of their days?). Without this, someone could easily give me the part numbers for the bearing components which would be the wrong parts and
self destruct quickly since the center spacer ring would most likely be the wrong dimension. So I'll take that example and use it in my personal
experience.

Knowing it was a SET23 I called a few old school bearing places in the area and one of them had a NOS set on the shelf, Timken brand, and since it had
been sitting there for 20 years or so, he dusted it off and sold it to me for $30. There's a case where a little bit of community knowledge was able
to save me, not 2X, but 4X the cost of the bearing! Now am I supposed to send $90 to Applied to make up for it?

I also couldn't swallow the $200 cost for each fuel tank sending unit, so I bought $50 ones from RockAuto and modified them to work in our shallow
tanks. So instead of $400 I paid $100 using a little bit of time and tools, but no knowledge or info from this forum. I just didn't want to pay 4X,
should I send Applied the $300 I saved?

You can ask JimK to check his records, I've actually sent him a _whole_ lot more than that in the 3-4 months I've owned this GMC. He has my Mastercard
on file and ordering from him is way too easy. Rest assured, any money I'm 'saving' is going to go to the vendors eventually, it will just be on
another part I need!

I've been doing some cross checking and it's more like 125% to 130% on the parts I bought from the vendors, not 200%. The prices are quite reasonable
for reassurance that the part will work and be of the highest quality. My off-hand comment about a 2X price was inaccurate on common over the counter
parts. In my mind I was averaging in the bearing and sending units and that wasn't a fair way to calculate the markup.

Back to the root issue, I'd rather have both a community with the knowledge that they are willing to share, and vendors that continue to meet our
needs. What frustrates me, and was the reason for the off-hand 2x cost comment, is that all too often the comments on this board are 'just call the
vendor' instead of 'here's the information (in a well organized website?), you can look locally if you're in a rush and if not the vendors have it,
you'll just have to wait for the shipping'.

Someone else mentioned 'we need to support them, we depend on them', and that's the other thing that doesn't sit well with me. I hate the idea of
being dependent, I'd rather have the information and make up my own mind. Usually it will be to order from our vendors anyway but at my choice!

Right now I'm looking at an electronic cruise control system and after choosing one online I found that Applied has the whole setup for less than the
sum of the parts I was looking at, plus instructions. So, hat's off to Applied.

Sorry to have highjacked this LS swap thread with the above blasphemy. I'm looking forward to hearing about the LS swap if someone is doing one.

--
Todd Snyder, Buffalo NY
1976 Eleganza II
 
> In the same light-
> HP. You want the least amount of power that still gives enough ability to pass and make grades
>
> Octane- you want the lowest octane that does not ping under the conditions you have set up.
>
> Batteries- you want the smallest CCA that will start you in the coldest conditions expected and still have some small reserve. Larger batteries
> present a lower impedance to alternator ( even when fully charged) and cost economy.
>
> The list could go on....

Actually this would be a good thread on it's own. The things you list do make sense, but I have not thought of them in such way. Please feel free to
start a new thread and keep the list going. I think others might find it useful too.
--
Vadim Jitkov
'76 Glenbrook 26'
Pullman, WA
 
I have been guilty of the same line of thinking many times.

I too get annoyed at the "call them" or "call me".
In my eyes why not spend that 10 minutes that you're going to be on the phone typing out a response so we can all see it, and more importantly so that
future owners can see it.

The knowledge base here is aging, rapidly. If we don't preserve the knowledge it's going to go away. Having private telephone conversations rather
than typing it out here is not going to help that problem.

I also agree on the website front, but I'm not going to undertake fixing it as Im not retired yet and I don't have time :)
There's is such a massive amount of knowledge and skill here that it would take a lifetime to properly catalog.

That being said I love being able to call or email Jim or Nick and say "what parts do I need, ok send them to me" and have them show up without worry.
It's a real convenience that most other communities don't have. I'm ok with markup for that convenience.

> Sorry I had to take a couple days off on this topic that seems to have touched a nerve. Plus I was camping at a bluegrass festival with the GMC
> last week so that made ignoring this easy.
>
> Deb wrote: "Todd - as a relatively new owner myself, I can say that I also took offence at your comments regarding "call vendor X" so you can pay
> double. You say you did not mean any offense. Well it certainly sounded like you were accusing him and other vendors on this site of overcharging."
>
> Deb, are you a vendor? If not, seriously? This offended you?
>
> Someone had mentioned that they could use front wheel bearings as an example of why we so desperately need to be able to call the Jims (and tie up
> how many hours of their days?). Without this, someone could easily give me the part numbers for the bearing components which would be the wrong
> parts and self destruct quickly since the center spacer ring would most likely be the wrong dimension. So I'll take that example and use it in my
> personal experience.
>
> Knowing it was a SET23 I called a few old school bearing places in the area and one of them had a NOS set on the shelf, Timken brand, and since it
> had been sitting there for 20 years or so, he dusted it off and sold it to me for $30. There's a case where a little bit of community knowledge was
> able to save me, not 2X, but 4X the cost of the bearing! Now am I supposed to send $90 to Applied to make up for it?
>
> I also couldn't swallow the $200 cost for each fuel tank sending unit, so I bought $50 ones from RockAuto and modified them to work in our shallow
> tanks. So instead of $400 I paid $100 using a little bit of time and tools, but no knowledge or info from this forum. I just didn't want to pay 4X,
> should I send Applied the $300 I saved?
>
> You can ask JimK to check his records, I've actually sent him a _whole_ lot more than that in the 3-4 months I've owned this GMC. He has my
> Mastercard on file and ordering from him is way too easy. Rest assured, any money I'm 'saving' is going to go to the vendors eventually, it will
> just be on another part I need!
>
> I've been doing some cross checking and it's more like 125% to 130% on the parts I bought from the vendors, not 200%. The prices are quite
> reasonable for reassurance that the part will work and be of the highest quality. My off-hand comment about a 2X price was inaccurate on common over
> the counter parts. In my mind I was averaging in the bearing and sending units and that wasn't a fair way to calculate the markup.
>
> Back to the root issue, I'd rather have both a community with the knowledge that they are willing to share, and vendors that continue to meet our
> needs. What frustrates me, and was the reason for the off-hand 2x cost comment, is that all too often the comments on this board are 'just call
> the vendor' instead of 'here's the information (in a well organized website?), you can look locally if you're in a rush and if not the vendors have
> it, you'll just have to wait for the shipping'.
>
> Someone else mentioned 'we need to support them, we depend on them', and that's the other thing that doesn't sit well with me. I hate the idea of
> being dependent, I'd rather have the information and make up my own mind. Usually it will be to order from our vendors anyway but at my choice!
>
> Right now I'm looking at an electronic cruise control system and after choosing one online I found that Applied has the whole setup for less than
> the sum of the parts I was looking at, plus instructions. So, hat's off to Applied.
>
> Sorry to have highjacked this LS swap thread with the above blasphemy. I'm looking forward to hearing about the LS swap if someone is doing one.

--
Justin Brady
http://www.thegmcrv.com/
1976 Palm Beach 455
 
Having had more experience helping technicians walk through
mechanical issues, I feel I know when I need to have TWO WAY communication
with people.
If it is an easy answer I will answer it so all can see it.
I do run a multimillion corporation here so I tend to keep things short,
and the GMC portion takes up 75% and earns us 35%.
So knock me own for asking them to call me.
I am 76 and going to be 77 soon,so those that want to take over can do so.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 6:49 AM Justin Brady via Gmclist <

> I have been guilty of the same line of thinking many times.
>
> I too get annoyed at the "call them" or "call me".
> In my eyes why not spend that 10 minutes that you're going to be on the
> phone typing out a response so we can all see it, and more importantly so
> that
> future owners can see it.
>
> The knowledge base here is aging, rapidly. If we don't preserve the
> knowledge it's going to go away. Having private telephone conversations
> rather
> than typing it out here is not going to help that problem.
>
>
> I also agree on the website front, but I'm not going to undertake fixing
> it as Im not retired yet and I don't have time :)
> There's is such a massive amount of knowledge and skill here that it would
> take a lifetime to properly catalog.
>
> That being said I love being able to call or email Jim or Nick and say
> "what parts do I need, ok send them to me" and have them show up without
> worry.
> It's a real convenience that most other communities don't have. I'm ok
> with markup for that convenience.
>
>
>
>

> > Sorry I had to take a couple days off on this topic that seems to have
> touched a nerve. Plus I was camping at a bluegrass festival with the GMC
> > last week so that made ignoring this easy.
> >
> > Deb wrote: "Todd - as a relatively new owner myself, I can say that I
> also took offence at your comments regarding "call vendor X" so you can pay
> > double. You say you did not mean any offense. Well it certainly sounded
> like you were accusing him and other vendors on this site of overcharging."
> >
> > Deb, are you a vendor? If not, seriously? This offended you?
> >
> > Someone had mentioned that they could use front wheel bearings as an
> example of why we so desperately need to be able to call the Jims (and tie
> up
> > how many hours of their days?). Without this, someone could easily give
> me the part numbers for the bearing components which would be the wrong
> > parts and self destruct quickly since the center spacer ring would most
> likely be the wrong dimension. So I'll take that example and use it in my
> > personal experience.
> >
> > Knowing it was a SET23 I called a few old school bearing places in the
> area and one of them had a NOS set on the shelf, Timken brand, and since it
> > had been sitting there for 20 years or so, he dusted it off and sold it
> to me for $30. There's a case where a little bit of community knowledge was
> > able to save me, not 2X, but 4X the cost of the bearing! Now am I
> supposed to send $90 to Applied to make up for it?
> >
> > I also couldn't swallow the $200 cost for each fuel tank sending unit,
> so I bought $50 ones from RockAuto and modified them to work in our shallow
> > tanks. So instead of $400 I paid $100 using a little bit of time and
> tools, but no knowledge or info from this forum. I just didn't want to pay
> 4X,
> > should I send Applied the $300 I saved?
> >
> > You can ask JimK to check his records, I've actually sent him a _whole_
> lot more than that in the 3-4 months I've owned this GMC. He has my
> > Mastercard on file and ordering from him is way too easy. Rest assured,
> any money I'm 'saving' is going to go to the vendors eventually, it will
> > just be on another part I need!
> >
> > I've been doing some cross checking and it's more like 125% to 130% on
> the parts I bought from the vendors, not 200%. The prices are quite
> > reasonable for reassurance that the part will work and be of the highest
> quality. My off-hand comment about a 2X price was inaccurate on common over
> > the counter parts. In my mind I was averaging in the bearing and
> sending units and that wasn't a fair way to calculate the markup.
> >
> > Back to the root issue, I'd rather have both a community with the
> knowledge that they are willing to share, and vendors that continue to meet
> our
> > needs. What frustrates me, and was the reason for the off-hand 2x cost
> comment, is that all too often the comments on this board are 'just call
> > the vendor' instead of 'here's the information (in a well organized
> website?), you can look locally if you're in a rush and if not the vendors
> have
> > it, you'll just have to wait for the shipping'.
> >
> > Someone else mentioned 'we need to support them, we depend on them', and
> that's the other thing that doesn't sit well with me. I hate the idea of
> > being dependent, I'd rather have the information and make up my own
> mind. Usually it will be to order from our vendors anyway but at my
> choice!
> >
> > Right now I'm looking at an electronic cruise control system and after
> choosing one online I found that Applied has the whole setup for less than
> > the sum of the parts I was looking at, plus instructions. So, hat's off
> to Applied.
> >
> > Sorry to have highjacked this LS swap thread with the above blasphemy.
> I'm looking forward to hearing about the LS swap if someone is doing one.
>
>
> --
> Justin Brady
> http://www.thegmcrv.com/
> 1976 Palm Beach 455
>
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Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
 
Darned young Whippersnappers! :-)

Ken "Goin' On 83" H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, Troy-Bilt APU, etc., etc., etc.
www.gmcwipersetc.com

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 5:36 PM Jim Kanomata via Gmclist <

> ...
> I am 76 and going to be 77 soon,so those that want to take over can do so.
> ...
>
 
Well, I'm somewhere in da middle. 79. I called FMCA this afternoon and
added 5 years to my membership. My current one is up in 2020. Cost? $200.00.
Such a deal.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019, 3:54 PM Ken Henderson via Gmclist <

> Darned young Whippersnappers! :-)
>
> Ken "Goin' On 83" H.
> Americus, GA
> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
> Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, Troy-Bilt APU, etc., etc., etc.
> www.gmcwipersetc.com
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 5:36 PM Jim Kanomata via Gmclist <

>
> > ...
> > I am 76 and going to be 77 soon,so those that want to take over can do
> so.
> > ...
> >
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So at 60, I am a whippersnapper!

Now I’m paid up until 2028!

Dolph Santorine

DE AD0LF

Wheeling, West Virginia

1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
Howell EFI/EBL , Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission

>
> Well, I'm somewhere in da middle. 79. I called FMCA this afternoon and
> added 5 years to my membership. My current one is up in 2020. Cost? $200.00.
> Such a deal.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019, 3:54 PM Ken Henderson via Gmclist <

>
>> Darned young Whippersnappers! :-)
>>
>> Ken "Goin' On 83" H.
>> Americus, GA
>> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
>> Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, Troy-Bilt APU, etc., etc., etc.
>> www.gmcwipersetc.com
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 5:36 PM Jim Kanomata via Gmclist <

>>
>>> ...
>>> I am 76 and going to be 77 soon,so those that want to take over can do
>> so.
>>> ...
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