Low Underpass

A ham radio friend, now deceased stated the role of government
should be limited to: "Protect our shores, deliver my mail, but
otherwise leave my ass alone." Not too terribly different from my
ideas. However, as Jim stated, the question is "where to draw the
line." Those unfortunates who are FORCED to live in crowded big
cities have much greater needs or desires from government than
those who can be much more reliant upon their own talents and
circumstances.

D C "Mac" Macdonald
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Since 30 November '53
USAF and FAA, Retired
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Low Underpass

We are dependent upon our infrastructure for transportation, municipal
water and sewer, and a lot of places, electricity.
Ponder me this, if you will. Bridges over rivers owned by companies
that are without government oversight for items like safety, etc. You want
to pay for them, every time you use them? Toll bridges, freeways, tunnels,
etc?
Myself, I think that is the governments role in our lives. Police,
firefighters, schools, border protection, armed forces, etc. But, where to
draw the line between private sector and government? There's the rub.
Cradle to the grave coddling? Or, just leave my ass alone! Age old
questions. Without any reasonable answers. Better minds than mine have
pondered them since society began. No answers yet appear. Think I'll just
have another beer and ponder this for a bit longer.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020, 9:07 AM Dolph Santorine via Gmclist <

> So the singular city is right, but all those drivers were wrong?
>
> Disregard half of them as stupid, and the number of accidents prove beyond
> a reasonable doubt that government is STILL wrong.
>
>
> Dolph
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> > On Oct 26, 2020, at 11:36 AM, Vadim Jitkov via Gmclist <

> >
> > Strongly disagree with previous post. The city has technically done
> their job when they had a passive sign posted, warning drivers of a low
> clearance.
> > According to the rules of the road, that is the PURPOSE of that sign and
> really that is all that is required to avoid an accident. With too many
> > drivers having wind blowing between their ears, that was deemed not
> enough, so they added active over-height warning, traffic light, etc. If
> driver
> > is still not paying attention to all of that, that means they are not
> paying attention to the road. At that point it is 100% on them. The same
> > driver that is not paying attention to the height warnings today, is the
> one that will be complaining that he is stuck in a dead end street that is
> > too narrow and demand that city make them wider and pass through. At
> some point we have to call those drivers out for what it is - personal
> > irresponsibility.
> > --
> > Vadim Jitkov
> > '76 Glenbrook 26'
> > Pullman, WA
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The sign reads over height trucks must turn.
The trucks are not over height.
The sign should read:
Under Height Overpass
Trucks Turn or Crash!

Marsh Wilkes
Perry fl

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Strongly disagree with previous post. The city has technically done their
job when they had a passive sign posted, warning drivers of a low clearance.
According to the rules of the road, that is the PURPOSE of that sign and
really that is all that is required to avoid an accident. With too many
drivers having wind blowing between their ears, that was deemed not enough,
so they added active over-height warning, traffic light, etc. If driver
is still not paying attention to all of that, that means they are not paying
attention to the road. At that point it is 100% on them. The same
driver that is not paying attention to the height warnings today, is the one
that will be complaining that he is stuck in a dead end street that is
too narrow and demand that city make them wider and pass through. At some
point we have to call those drivers out for what it is - personal
irresponsibility.
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'76 Glenbrook 26'
Pullman, WA

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I agree, the drivers are idiots, many if not most divers are.
However I can see someone reading the sign and, thinking correctly, I'm not
driving an over height truck. I'm with Rick D , who is a traffic engineer,
that it should be fixed.
If they are not going to fix it, they should make a better effort at
mitigating the problem, which
would involve a lot more than an ambiguous sign, possibly even a little
common sense, but that
don't usually happen when government is involved, the government employees
are going to get a
paycheck, no matter how many people crash into the "guard".

Marsh Wilkes
Perry Fl

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The sign reads over height trucks must turn.
The trucks are not over height.
The sign should read:
Under Height Overpass
Trucks Turn or Crash!

Marsh Wilkes
Perry fl

-----Original Message-----
From: Vadim Jitkov via Gmclist
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 11:36 AM
To: gmclist
Cc: Vadim Jitkov
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Low Underpass

Strongly disagree with previous post. The city has technically done their
job when they had a passive sign posted, warning drivers of a low clearance.
According to the rules of the road, that is the PURPOSE of that sign and
really that is all that is required to avoid an accident. With too many
drivers having wind blowing between their ears, that was deemed not enough,
so they added active over-height warning, traffic light, etc. If driver
is still not paying attention to all of that, that means they are not paying
attention to the road. At that point it is 100% on them. The same
driver that is not paying attention to the height warnings today, is the one
that will be complaining that he is stuck in a dead end street that is
too narrow and demand that city make them wider and pass through. At some
point we have to call those drivers out for what it is - personal
irresponsibility.
--
Vadim Jitkov
'76 Glenbrook 26'
Pullman, WA

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Mac -

Yep. I agree.

Dolph Santorine

DE AD0LF

Wheeling, West Virginia

1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
Howell EFI/EBL , Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission

>
> I agree, the drivers are idiots, many if not most divers are.
> However I can see someone reading the sign and, thinking correctly, I'm not
> driving an over height truck. I'm with Rick D , who is a traffic engineer, that it should be fixed.
> If they are not going to fix it, they should make a better effort at mitigating the problem, which
> would involve a lot more than an ambiguous sign, possibly even a little common sense, but that
> don't usually happen when government is involved, the government employees are going to get a
> paycheck, no matter how many people crash into the "guard".
>
> Marsh Wilkes
> Perry Fl
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Marsh Wilkes via Gmclist
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 1:19 PM
> To: gmclist
> Cc: Marsh Wilkes
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Low Underpass
>
> The sign reads over height trucks must turn.
> The trucks are not over height.
> The sign should read:
> Under Height Overpass
> Trucks Turn or Crash!
>
> Marsh Wilkes
> Perry fl
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Vadim Jitkov via Gmclist
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 11:36 AM
> To: gmclist
> Cc: Vadim Jitkov
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Low Underpass
>
> Strongly disagree with previous post. The city has technically done their
> job when they had a passive sign posted, warning drivers of a low clearance.
> According to the rules of the road, that is the PURPOSE of that sign and
> really that is all that is required to avoid an accident. With too many
> drivers having wind blowing between their ears, that was deemed not enough,
> so they added active over-height warning, traffic light, etc. If driver
> is still not paying attention to all of that, that means they are not paying
> attention to the road. At that point it is 100% on them. The same
> driver that is not paying attention to the height warnings today, is the one
> that will be complaining that he is stuck in a dead end street that is
> too narrow and demand that city make them wider and pass through. At some
> point we have to call those drivers out for what it is - personal
> irresponsibility.
> --
> Vadim Jitkov
> '76 Glenbrook 26'
> Pullman, WA
>
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While I am sure it would not stop all, I kind of like this one....
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325904/Water-stop-sign-Virtual-barrier-curtain-water-halts-lorries-driving-small-tunnels.html
http://https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325904/Water-stop-sign-Virtual-barrier-curtain-water-halts-lorries-driving-small-tunnels.html
The link is long, I hope I still works.

Matt
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