It's been asked, the cause of my GMC fire.

[Bob Dunahugh]

State Farm is looking into a fire recall on the frig. So that they maybe a=
ble to subrogate to the manufacture. The major problem is that the Nebrask=
a State Fire Marshal that was on the scene that night. Jumped to a conclus=
ion early on that night, that I started it. Thus didn't do a proper investi=
gation of doing a complete, and total job after he came up with that arson=
idea. State Farm intervened on my behalf. With the Fire Marshal's office.=
I'm so grateful to State Farm for all the extra effort to clear me of the=
arson charge. If that arson charge would have stuck. State Farm wouldn't h=
ad to pay a dime. I didn't have any fixed value on the 78 Royale. 16 days a=
fter the fire. State Farm had a $25,000. check in my hands. Plus the burned=
GMC. I will be getting the following undamaged items. 7 new alum rims, =
and tires. ( 4100 miles on them. ) $2700 worth of new parts on the front en=
d, new radiator, heater core, rebuilt trany, 3:70 final drive, 6, 2 year o=
ld shocks, new exhaust, rear sway bar, and Quad bag system. Other original=
items are, 2 good gas tanks, generator, torsion bars, engine, complete r=
ust free frame, nice bumpers, body panels from the beltline down, And a com=
plete front clip with grill.Bob Dunahugh78 Royale =09=09 =09 =09=09

 

[Gene Fisher]

Glad you are loose from the legal beagles

But
Would sure like to know what happened
I have 3 GMCs sitting alone ,in the dark

> State Farm is looking into a fire recall on the frig. So that they maybe
> able to subrogate to the manufacture. The major problem is that the
> Nebraska State Fire Marshal that was on the scene that night. Jumped to a
> conclusion early on that night, that I started it. Thus didn't do a proper
> investigation of doing a complete, and total job after he came up with
> that arson idea. State Farm intervened on my behalf. With the Fire
> Marshal's office. I'm so grateful to State Farm for all the extra effort
> to clear me of the arson charge. If that arson charge would have stuck.
> State Farm wouldn't had to pay a dime. I didn't have any fixed value on the
> 78 Royale. 16 days after the fire. State Farm had a $25,000. check in my
> hands. Plus the burned GMC. I will be getting the following undamaged
> items. 7 new alum rims, and tires. ( 4100 miles on them. ) $2700 worth of
> new parts on the front end, new radiator, heater core, rebuilt trany, 3:70
> final drive, 6, 2 year old shocks, new exhaust, rear sway bar, and Quad
> bag system. Other original items are, 2 good gas tanks, generator, torsion
> bars, engine, complete rust free frame, nice bumpers, body panels from the
> beltline down, And a complete front clip with grill.Bob Dunahugh78 Royale
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[ernie garcia]

I must have missed this part. How could the Fire Marshall think arson!? That's absurd!
--
ernie garcia
1975 eleganza II
ellensburg, wa

 

[bdub]

He found accelerant evidence on the floor beneath the roof ac where
refrigeration oil is stored. AC had burned. Actually, just another public
paid flunky that took the easy way out.

> I must have missed this part. How could the Fire Marshall think arson!?
> That's absurd!
> --
> ernie garcia
> 1975 eleganza II
> ellensburg, wa
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[Bob Dunahugh]

Ernie. The Nebraska State Fire Marshal has=
equipment that detects hydrocarbons. Oil. Thus an accelerant on the floor.=
And to him there was no reason for an accelerant to be on the floor. Thus=
someone put it there. And to him. I was the only one that had a reason to =
do that. It's called insurance money. And I had told him that there was no =
way it could have been there. On the 5 hour drive home. I figured it out. B=
asicly. He found the hydrocarbons. The case as solved right then. So he sto=
pped his investigation. Below is the e-mail that I sent State Farm. And th=
e Fire Marshal. He was pissed about the e-mail below. And called me to tel=
l me that.Bob Dunahugh There was a roof A/C unit just back of the f=
ront seat. That unit was 12,000 BTU's. That type of unit is a rotary vain =
compressor. An had R-22, and just under 1 pt of oil in it. All under pres=
sure. The Oil type should have been 3GS, or 4GS . The pressure in the solde=
red copper tubing in this unit are. At 80 degrees, the internal pressure =
will be at 143PSI. At 150 degrees it will be at 381 PSI. As the temp incre=
ases. The PSI will also increase. When that unit was outside on the roof. T=
he temp wasn't high enough to melt the solder joints. When the roof A/C uni=
t fell from the roof into the fire. The temp at the solder joints would ha=
ve allowed the soldered joints to come apart. Thus allowing the hydrocarbon=
s in the R-22, and oil to be forced out under vary high pressure in the are=
a of the floor. Your lab should be able to confirm this oil type from what=
you said. Had lots of time going home to think about hydrocarbons. And whe=
re they are. And how they got on the floor. So I figured it out for YOU.Bob=
Dunahugh =09=09 =09 =09=09 =09=09 =09 =09=09 =09=09 =09 =09=09=
=09=09 =09 =09=09 =09=09 =09 =09=09 =09=09 =09 =09=09 =
=09=09 =09 =09=09

 

[robert mueller]

Bob,

What do you think the Fire Marshal's reaction would have been if you had finished your email with "I hope the information above
helps with the investigation."

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Dunahugh

Ernie. The Nebraska State Fire Marshal has equipment that detects hydrocarbons. Oil. Thus an accelerant on the floor. And to him
there was no reason for an accelerant to be on the floor. Thus someone put it there. And to him. I was the only one that had a
reason to do that. It's called insurance money. And I had told him that there was no way it could have been there. On the 5 hour
drive home. I figured it out. Basicly. He found the hydrocarbons. The case as solved right then. So he stopped his investigation.
Below is the e-mail that I sent State Farm. And the Fire Marshal. He was pissed about the e-mail below. And called me to tell me
that.Bob Dunahugh

There was a roof A/C unit just back of the front seat. That unit was 12,000 BTU's. That type of unit is a rotary vain compressor.
An had R-22, and just under 1 pt of oil in it. All under pressure. The Oil type should have been 3GS, or 4GS . The pressure in the
soldered copper tubing in this unit are. At 80 degrees, the internal pressure will be at 143PSI. At 150 degrees it will be at 381
PSI. As the temp increases. The PSI will also increase. When that unit was outside on the roof. The temp wasn't high enough to melt
the solder joints. When the roof A/C unit fell from the roof into the fire. The temp at the solder joints would have allowed the
soldered joints to come apart. Thus allowing the hydrocarbons in the R-22, and oil to be forced out under vary high pressure in the
area of the floor. Your lab should be able to confirm this oil type from what you said. Had lots of time going home to think about
hydrocarbons. And where they are. And how they got on the floor. So I figured it out for YOU.Bob Dunahugh

 

[jim galbavy]

Rob, The time to be polite was over when the Fire Marshal jumped to an
EZ solution to the fire without taking in the whole scene and calling it
arson. I take it that he didn't know what he was looking at, IF he saw the discharged
roof A/C unit in the area of the fire.
I understand that there is a time, place and way to do things the
PC way but once accused of a criminal act without doing a complete investigation,
it is time for the gloves to come off. I've done it in the military and in
civilian life with TSA. If you know you are right and the local authority will
not listen, then it is time to take it to a higher level. Never "cop" to a crime
you never committed just 'cause it is convenient to someone else.

That's my rant for the day.

jim galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
Lake Mary, FL

 

[Totality]

Well to be fair, said flunky is likely underpaid, overworked, underfunded, undertrained, has old technology and long experience with folks setting
fire to vehicles to collect the insurance.....
And Arson call does not necesserily imply the owner set the fire......fires are often set by criminals to cover their tracks.

Pete

> He found accelerant evidence on the floor beneath the roof ac where
> refrigeration oil is stored. AC had burned. Actually, just another public
> paid flunky that took the easy way out.

>
> > I must have missed this part. How could the Fire Marshall think arson!?
> > That's absurd!
> > --
> > ernie garcia
> > 1975 eleganza II
> > ellensburg, wa
> >
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Cary, NC

No Coach yet but decided it will be wet bath with Sully or 4 bag system.
perhaps a 1978 Kingsley....

 

[carey bryan]

Bob,

That's sure a relief, getting that check, and the motorhome, too. I do wonder how old the frig was as an estimate. I have bought a Jim B
extinguisher for the refrigerator area. Scares me, though one of the pictures I saw in Bdub's post showed what looked like an obvious generator
compartment fire.

Carey

--
Carey from Ennis, Texas
78 Royale, 500 Cadillac, Rance Baxter EFI.

 

[Bob Dunahugh]

Rob. When we go and rent these road race tracks to do our high speed tr=
ack events from coast to coast. The track is locked down to keep the public=
out. In this way we get a reduction in cost due to less insurance liabilit=
y. And we just don't want strangers around very rare, and expensive cars. A=
t about 1 AM. The F M asked me if there was anyone there that had a grudge =
with me. I said absolutely not. As we compete against each other all the ti=
me. And have fun driving each other's cars at times. At that time in the =
morning. The F M had already decided that it was arson. And there was a ver=
y limited number of people there. About 20. And since I had ruled everyone =
else out. Thus I was guilty. PERIOD to him. Thus from that time. Till I ju=
st got the GMC out of Nebraska. And out of his jurisdiction. There was no r=
eason to be nice, or angry to him. But now I'm going to his supervisor, alo=
ng with State Farm. Because SF isn't very happy with the lousy job the F M =
did. As now SF may have lost their chance to subrogate the damage claim. My=
big problem is that I talk openly to the F M that night. And made myself =
the major person of interest. If I ever get into any situation like that ag=
ain. It will be simpler. I KNOW NOTHING. And have nothing to say. PIROID.Bo=
b Dunahugh78 Royale =09=09 =09 =09=09 =09=09 =09 =09=09