Interior remodeling

davis dowling

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Time has come to start remodeling the interior of our 1976 23' Birchhaven. My dilemma is do I build from scratch inside the coach? Or do I preassemble units in the shop and slip them thru an opening. The latter being my preference. The only opening big enough is the drivers side salon window. Can someone please advise me how much of a job removing and more important replacing this window would be.

Beauty and the beast, Kelly and David
76 23' Birchhaven under going remodeling in Port Townsend, WA
New heart of gold complements of Applied. Hi Jim and Nik!

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Davis,

I completely gutted our '76 X-Birchaven and installed an all-new interior:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3055-our-x-birchaven.html

Since I replaced all the windows with new ones, re-installation of the old
ones was not an issue, but it would have been an essentially trivial job.
In your case, you probably want to completely rebuild and reseal them
anyway, so removal is advisable.

As for pre-assembling units vs building in place, that was not an issue for
me: Most of the cabinetry is so integrated into the basic structure of the
coach that building in place is the logical solution. There are, of
course, sub-assemblies, like face frames and doors that are shop-built, but
the assemblies themselves so depend upon their attachment to the coach
body for strength that "pre-assembly" is mostly a non-issue. Without any
real planning going into it, all of my cabinets went in the entry door
without any problem.

Keep us posted with photos as the project progresses.

Ken H.

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 1:15 AM Davis Dowling
wrote:

> Time has come to start remodeling the interior of our 1976 23' Birchhaven.
> My dilemma is do I build from scratch inside the coach? Or do I preassemble
> units in the shop and slip them thru an opening. The latter being my
> preference. The only opening big enough is the drivers side salon window.
> Can someone please advise me how much of a job removing and more important
> replacing this window would be.
>
>
 
You can get anything you want, including the bath module, in and out of
the back window once it is removed...and it is simple to remove and re
install.

Mike in NS

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 7:20 AM, Ken Henderson
wrote:

> Davis,
>
> I completely gutted our '76 X-Birchaven and installed an all-new interior:
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3055-our-x-birchaven.html
>
> Since I replaced all the windows with new ones, re-installation of the old
> ones was not an issue, but it would have been an essentially trivial job.
> In your case, you probably want to completely rebuild and reseal them
> anyway, so removal is advisable.
>
> As for pre-assembling units vs building in place, that was not an issue for
> me: Most of the cabinetry is so integrated into the basic structure of the
> coach that building in place is the logical solution. There are, of
> course, sub-assemblies, like face frames and doors that are shop-built, but
> the assemblies themselves so depend upon their attachment to the coach
> body for strength that "pre-assembly" is mostly a non-issue. Without any
> real planning going into it, all of my cabinets went in the entry door
> without any problem.
>
> Keep us posted with photos as the project progresses.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 1:15 AM Davis Dowling

>
> > Time has come to start remodeling the interior of our 1976 23'
> Birchhaven.
> > My dilemma is do I build from scratch inside the coach? Or do I
> preassemble
> > units in the shop and slip them thru an opening. The latter being my
> > preference. The only opening big enough is the drivers side salon window.
> > Can someone please advise me how much of a job removing and more
> important
> > replacing this window would be.
> >
> >
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> Time has come to start remodeling the interior of our 1976 23' Birchhaven. My dilemma is do I build from scratch inside the coach? Or do I
> preassemble units in the shop and slip them thru an opening. The latter being my preference. The only opening big enough is the drivers side salon
> window. Can someone please advise me how much of a job removing and more important replacing this window would be.
>
> Beauty and the beast, Kelly and David
> 76 23' Birchhaven under going remodeling in Port Townsend, WA
> New heart of gold complements of Applied. Hi Jim and Nik!
>
> Sent from my iPad
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Quite the project
Have you considered bringing the body back to spec, that is, these old girls suffer a midriff bulge when the roof settles down a bit. They all do it.
It is generally noticeable by the entrance door being difficult to close, having to slam it or close very hard to latch up. The wall panel near the
door will show a gap about mid height of about 1/2 to an inch as the body wall moves outward. The bathroom door in some models are supposed to be
used as a "wall" utilizing hall way space as part of the bathroom when showering. The door should be able to open fully to the cabinet across the
hall from it. My coach, when the midriff bulge happened, the top of the bathroom module moved inward toward the hall so the door no longer can open
fully.
There are some pics of how the side walls can be pulled back in and strenthened restoring the normal height of the coach.
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