That panel on the Mouse House had some really BAD repair work done on it at some time. Probably due to a blown tire. No one has noticed. But to me it must be replaced. Our 78 GMC convertible had one good panel. And one with a small amount of fire damage on an edge. But very usable. Got both off with no damage. So now I have a way to fit it perfectly. Have photos if anyone is interested. Bob Dunahugh
I was told that the outside body panel around the rear tires was impossible to remove, and not break. Wrong.
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Bob
Send me your picture of that panel. I don't really know what panel you are referring to. Is that a non-OEM flare above the rear tires?
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick CO
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> That panel on the Mouse House had some really BAD repair work done on it at some time. Probably due to a blown tire. No one has noticed. But to me it must be replaced. Our 78 GMC convertible had one good panel. And one with a small amount of fire damage on an edge. But very usable. Got both off with no damage. So now I have a way to fit it perfectly. Have photos if anyone is interested. Bob Dunahugh
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Send me your picture of that panel. I don't really know what panel you are referring to. Is that a non-OEM flare above the rear tires?
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick CO
>
> That panel on the Mouse House had some really BAD repair work done on it at some time. Probably due to a blown tire. No one has noticed. But to me it must be replaced. Our 78 GMC convertible had one good panel. And one with a small amount of fire damage on an edge. But very usable. Got both off with no damage. So now I have a way to fit it perfectly. Have photos if anyone is interested. Bob Dunahugh
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The panel I removed from the burned GMC was the stock panel that the T skirt is fastened too. No flairs on either GMC. Bob Dunahugh
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From: Bob Dunahugh
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 10:22 AM
To: gmclist
Subject: I was told that the outside body panel around the rear tires was impossible to remove, and not break. Wrong.
That panel on the Mouse House had some really BAD repair work done on it at some time. Probably due to a blown tire. No one has noticed. But to me it must be replaced. Our 78 GMC convertible had one good panel. And one with a small amount of fire damage on an edge. But very usable. Got both off with no damage. So now I have a way to fit it perfectly. Have photos if anyone is interested. Bob Dunahugh
________________________________
From: Bob Dunahugh
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 10:22 AM
To: gmclist
Subject: I was told that the outside body panel around the rear tires was impossible to remove, and not break. Wrong.
That panel on the Mouse House had some really BAD repair work done on it at some time. Probably due to a blown tire. No one has noticed. But to me it must be replaced. Our 78 GMC convertible had one good panel. And one with a small amount of fire damage on an edge. But very usable. Got both off with no damage. So now I have a way to fit it perfectly. Have photos if anyone is interested. Bob Dunahugh
OK. Send me the picture.
Thanks
Emery
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> The panel I removed from the burned GMC was the stock panel that the T skirt is fastened too. No flairs on either GMC. Bob Dunahugh
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bob Dunahugh
> Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 10:22 AM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: I was told that the outside body panel around the rear tires was impossible to remove, and not break. Wrong.
>
>
> That panel on the Mouse House had some really BAD repair work done on it at some time. Probably due to a blown tire. No one has noticed. But to me it must be replaced. Our 78 GMC convertible had one good panel. And one with a small amount of fire damage on an edge. But very usable. Got both off with no damage. So now I have a way to fit it perfectly. Have photos if anyone is interested. Bob Dunahugh
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Emery
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> The panel I removed from the burned GMC was the stock panel that the T skirt is fastened too. No flairs on either GMC. Bob Dunahugh
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bob Dunahugh
> Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 10:22 AM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: I was told that the outside body panel around the rear tires was impossible to remove, and not break. Wrong.
>
>
> That panel on the Mouse House had some really BAD repair work done on it at some time. Probably due to a blown tire. No one has noticed. But to me it must be replaced. Our 78 GMC convertible had one good panel. And one with a small amount of fire damage on an edge. But very usable. Got both off with no damage. So now I have a way to fit it perfectly. Have photos if anyone is interested. Bob Dunahugh
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Emery,
If it's the driver side believe Bob is talking about:
Parts Book 78Z / Section 23 / Page 23-14 / Figure 23.026 - Panels and framing / Key 36 / PN 691615 - Panel - side, LH outer wheel
opening.
The passenger side is listed in Figure 23.05.
I believe that GMC used 3M Epoxy EC-2216 to glue the panels to the frame. I came to that conclusion when I removed a stringer that
was attached to the aluminum above the fridge vent. The epoxy was the same color as cured EC-2216 and when I heated it (using an
electric heat gun) it smelled the same as the epoxy used to glue parts of the Apollo backpack together.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
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Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 3:50 AM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I was told that the outside body panel around the rear tires was impossible to remove, and not break. Wrong.
OK. Send me the picture.
Thanks
Emery
>
> The panel I removed from the burned GMC was the stock panel that the T skirt is fastened too. No flairs on either GMC. Bob
Dunahugh
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bob Dunahugh
> Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 10:22 AM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: I was told that the outside body panel around the rear tires was impossible to remove, and not break. Wrong.
>
>
> That panel on the Mouse House had some really BAD repair work done on it at some time. Probably due to a blown tire. No one has
noticed. But to me it must be replaced. Our 78 GMC convertible had one good panel. And one with a small amount of fire damage on
an edge. But very usable. Got both off with no damage. So now I have a way to fit it perfectly. Have photos if anyone is
interested. Bob Dunahugh
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If it's the driver side believe Bob is talking about:
Parts Book 78Z / Section 23 / Page 23-14 / Figure 23.026 - Panels and framing / Key 36 / PN 691615 - Panel - side, LH outer wheel
opening.
The passenger side is listed in Figure 23.05.
I believe that GMC used 3M Epoxy EC-2216 to glue the panels to the frame. I came to that conclusion when I removed a stringer that
was attached to the aluminum above the fridge vent. The epoxy was the same color as cured EC-2216 and when I heated it (using an
electric heat gun) it smelled the same as the epoxy used to glue parts of the Apollo backpack together.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Emery Stora
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 3:50 AM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I was told that the outside body panel around the rear tires was impossible to remove, and not break. Wrong.
OK. Send me the picture.
Thanks
Emery
>
> The panel I removed from the burned GMC was the stock panel that the T skirt is fastened too. No flairs on either GMC. Bob
Dunahugh
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bob Dunahugh
> Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 10:22 AM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: I was told that the outside body panel around the rear tires was impossible to remove, and not break. Wrong.
>
>
> That panel on the Mouse House had some really BAD repair work done on it at some time. Probably due to a blown tire. No one has
noticed. But to me it must be replaced. Our 78 GMC convertible had one good panel. And one with a small amount of fire damage on
an edge. But very usable. Got both off with no damage. So now I have a way to fit it perfectly. Have photos if anyone is
interested. Bob Dunahugh
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I wonder if the heat from the fire loosened the adhesive somewhat?
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Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles,
Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles,
Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Carl,
My experience was that to break the bond the epoxy had to be pretty hot when you tried to separate the parts.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Carl Stouffer
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 7:47 AM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I was told that the outside body panel around the rear tires was impossible to remove, and not break. Wrong.
I wonder if the heat from the fire loosened the adhesive somewhat?
--
Carl Stouffer
My experience was that to break the bond the epoxy had to be pretty hot when you tried to separate the parts.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Carl Stouffer
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 7:47 AM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I was told that the outside body panel around the rear tires was impossible to remove, and not break. Wrong.
I wonder if the heat from the fire loosened the adhesive somewhat?
--
Carl Stouffer
Carl. The panels that I removed weren't affected by the fire. Bob Dunahugh
________________________________
From: Bob Dunahugh
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 12:40 PM
To: gmclist
Subject: RE: I was told that the outside body panel around the rear tires was impossible to remove, and not break. Wrong.
The panel I removed from the burned GMC was the stock panel that the T skirt is fastened too. No flairs on either GMC. Bob Dunahugh
________________________________
From: Bob Dunahugh
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 10:22 AM
To: gmclist
Subject: I was told that the outside body panel around the rear tires was impossible to remove, and not break. Wrong.
That panel on the Mouse House had some really BAD repair work done on it at some time. Probably due to a blown tire. No one has noticed. But to me it must be replaced. Our 78 GMC convertible had one good panel. And one with a small amount of fire damage on an edge. But very usable. Got both off with no damage. So now I have a way to fit it perfectly. Have photos if anyone is interested. Bob Dunahugh
________________________________
From: Bob Dunahugh
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 12:40 PM
To: gmclist
Subject: RE: I was told that the outside body panel around the rear tires was impossible to remove, and not break. Wrong.
The panel I removed from the burned GMC was the stock panel that the T skirt is fastened too. No flairs on either GMC. Bob Dunahugh
________________________________
From: Bob Dunahugh
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 10:22 AM
To: gmclist
Subject: I was told that the outside body panel around the rear tires was impossible to remove, and not break. Wrong.
That panel on the Mouse House had some really BAD repair work done on it at some time. Probably due to a blown tire. No one has noticed. But to me it must be replaced. Our 78 GMC convertible had one good panel. And one with a small amount of fire damage on an edge. But very usable. Got both off with no damage. So now I have a way to fit it perfectly. Have photos if anyone is interested. Bob Dunahugh
