I have often thought of visiting Montreal

Bring the front drive TZE. Everyone says FWD is great in snow !!!
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John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Source America First
 
Did you just buy stock in a Montreal body shop, John?
RonC

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On Tue, 06 Dec 2016 13:04:06 -0700 John R. Lebetski

Bring the front drive TZE. Everyone says FWD is great in snow !!!
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John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Source America First

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Ron & Linda Clark
North Plains, ORYGUN
78 Eleganza II
 
The city yuppies move up here and the first thing they do is buy a huge 4WD pickup. Comes the first ice storm (We get a LOT more ice than snow here)
ever one of them heads out and as soon as they skid - maybe a quarter mile at best - they hang it in (part time) 4WD and tuck it promptly in the
nearest ditch. I give them a couple of hours to get planted and then run the Mousemobile down to about 18PSI and slowly go anywhere I need to be.

--johnny
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'76 23' transmode Norris upfit, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"The road goes on forever, and the party never ends" --Robert Earl Keen
 
For the first winter in many, I don't have a 4 wheel drive vehicle handy. And, I really don't care. A 4WD will get you into trouble more easily than
it can get you out. What I learned with my first (~an M2B2 in '66) was that you drive in 2WD and only use 4WD to back out and either choose another
route (in the forest) or go (the hell) home (in the snow).

As said prior, just because you have 4WD and fancy brakes doesn't mean that those brakes will do you any good at all.

In our corner of Michigan, we haven't get had the first blast of winter and when we do, we will stay warm at home and let the idiots have the accident
that they are working so hard for so they can go home. A friend always calls it the magic snow. It falls and all these peoples brains just
Disappear. Ya Know, for a state that get winter every year, it sure does seem to surprise a lot of them.

Matt, Mary and Chaumierè are staying safe and warm
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Matt & Mary Colie - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
'73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brake with Applied Control Arms
Now with both true Keyless and remote entry
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
 
I towed a big trailer in a heavy snow storm with my Tahoe last year. Sometimes you need to be in 4 to get up grades but as soon as you spin you loose
all directional control and the truck follows the crown of the road. In Oct in the TZE we hit 18 deg and snow covering in SD I90 was lightly frosted
but all bridges were heavy frosted in the AM. At 50 MPH if you kept your foot where it was to maintain highway speed, when you hit the bridges the
fronts would start to slip and no steering. If you lifted off the gas on or before the bridges you would slip in the decell mode (plow) and no
steering. The trick was to lift just enough accelerator to not be adding or removing propulsion via the front tires and she was stabile on the
bridges. Observed several vehicle wheels up off the road with officers presrnt.
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John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Source America First
 
One vehicle I found would go pretty much anyplace all the time was the VW Synchro - which had a front to back diff (actually a fluid thingie). Not
inexpensive to own or keep up, but go anyplace. Local guy used to take his'n to the Jeep dealers' showoffs where they'd pile up logs and rocks and
stuff to show only a CJ would go. Only a CJ and a Synchro - he'd go anyplace the Jeep would.

--johnny
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'76 23' transmode Norris upfit, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"The road goes on forever, and the party never ends" --Robert Earl Keen
 
I always thought it pretty funny to see the' macho' 4wd vehicles in the ditch after heavy snows in New Hampshire and Virginia. I suspect that
Marilyn's Subaru will go almost anywhere, hindered mainly by driver determination. Some lack of clearance may also come into play.
Tom, MS II
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1975 GMC Avion
KA4CSG
 
All cars have 4 wheel brakes ( except my buddies t-bucket ). 4x4 only gets you deeper into trouble.

Yes if you are going off road 4x4 is great, but on road? Nope.

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From: Gmclist on behalf of Thomas Phipps
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 6:48:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I have often thought of visiting Montreal

I always thought it pretty funny to see the' macho' 4wd vehicles in the ditch after heavy snows in New Hampshire and Virginia. I suspect that
Marilyn's Subaru will go almost anywhere, hindered mainly by driver determination. Some lack of clearance may also come into play.
Tom, MS II
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1975 GMC Avion
KA4CSG

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In reference to that video, Our Montreal mayor was questioned live on a local radio station about why that section of road was not salted. His answer: SHIT HAPPENS!

Les Burt
Montreal
'75 Eleganza 26'
The EWIP (Eternal Work In Progress)

>
> All cars have 4 wheel brakes ( except my buddies t-bucket ). 4x4 only gets you deeper into trouble.
>
> Yes if you are going off road 4x4 is great, but on road? Nope.
>
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> From: Gmclist on behalf of Thomas Phipps
> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 6:48:05 AM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I have often thought of visiting Montreal
>
> I always thought it pretty funny to see the' macho' 4wd vehicles in the ditch after heavy snows in New Hampshire and Virginia. I suspect that
> Marilyn's Subaru will go almost anywhere, hindered mainly by driver determination. Some lack of clearance may also come into play.
> Tom, MS II
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> KA4CSG
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