How to determine value?

larry dtimothy

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Well now I've done it! And don't know what to do now.
After having searched for a ragged out GMC to totally rebuild, and
finding one, now I'm not sure I want to pay $7,000(alledgedly firm
price). Owner insists it's worth every penny of it.
It's a '76 Eleganza.
The outside is filthy and faded with a green gook coating.
The inside appears to have been used for a goat shed.
While I'm inclined to try it, I find myself wanting to feel that
the price is not excessive.
I'll appreciate any thoughts and suggestions.
Tim Timothy
'73 Glacier
 
I am doing the same thing, rebuilding a 74 Sequoia. I paid $4000 for mine. Inside and outside a mess, engine and transmission rebuilt 5000 miles prior.

Don 77 Palm Beach
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>Well now I've done it! And don't know what to do now.
>After having searched for a ragged out GMC to totally rebuild, and
>finding one, now I'm not sure I want to pay $7,000(alledgedly firm
>price). Owner insists it's worth every penny of it.
>It's a '76 Eleganza.
>The outside is filthy and faded with a green gook coating.
>The inside appears to have been used for a goat shed.
>While I'm inclined to try it, I find myself wanting to feel that
>the price is not excessive.
>I'll appreciate any thoughts and suggestions.
>Tim Timothy
>'73 Glacier
>

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I am doing the same thing, rebuilding a 74 Sequoia. I paid $4000 for mine. Inside and outside a mess, engine and transmission rebuilt 5000 miles prior.

Don 77 Palm Beach
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>Well now I've done it! And don't know what to do now.
>After having searched for a ragged out GMC to totally rebuild, and
>finding one, now I'm not sure I want to pay $7,000(alledgedly firm
>price). Owner insists it's worth every penny of it.
>It's a '76 Eleganza.
>The outside is filthy and faded with a green gook coating.
>The inside appears to have been used for a goat shed.
>While I'm inclined to try it, I find myself wanting to feel that
>the price is not excessive.
>I'll appreciate any thoughts and suggestions.
>Tim Timothy
>'73 Glacier
>

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Thanks Don,
This should make a good starting point. Perhaps useful in "helping" the
owner to see that his asking price is a bit high.
I'd like to compare what You got for Your 4K investment vs. what the
Eleganza actually is.
The Eleganza Frame is intact, with what I think is normal surface
deterioration. What shape is the Sequoia frame in?
The Eleganza is a '76. Is there any potential value difference in that
and the '74 Sequoia once they are both back to showroom condition?
The Eleganza alledgedly has a newly rebuilt "454". Did they ever come
with a 454? Will a 454 match up or is the owner mistaken. How can I
determine this, since I can't look at the engines and know the
differences in a 454 and a 455?(yet!)
At this point I'm of the opiniion $7,000 is too much. Do You agree?

> I am doing the same thing, rebuilding a 74 Sequoia. I paid $4000 for mine. Inside and outside a mess, engine and transmission rebuilt 5000 miles prior.
>
> Don 77 Palm Beach
> --
>

> >Well now I've done it! And don't know what to do now.
> >After having searched for a ragged out GMC to totally rebuild, and
> >finding one, now I'm not sure I want to pay $7,000(alledgedly firm
> >price). Owner insists it's worth every penny of it.
> >It's a '76 Eleganza.
> >The outside is filthy and faded with a green gook coating.
> >The inside appears to have been used for a goat shed.
> >While I'm inclined to try it, I find myself wanting to feel that
> >the price is not excessive.
> >I'll appreciate any thoughts and suggestions.
> >Tim Timothy
> >'73 Glacier
> >
>
> Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere!
> http://www.mailexcite.com
 
According to all my literature and my knowledge they only out 455 and 403 engines in the GMC. The owner my be wrong about it being a 454 or it has been replaced somewhere down the line.
The Sequoia had normal surface rust on the frame, nothing bad. It took me 6 weeks of playing with normal painting equipment (brush and scraper) to clean and repaint it. It has a 2 foot extension added to the back, someone did a very nice job on the frame and mechnical work, poor job on the body work. The steering had been rebuilt and the ball joints had been replaced right before I purchased it. It drives like a dream.
While I was considering undertaking this project I talked to many people. The fine folks at Golby told me a coach needing a full overhaul from the frame to the roof but in restorable condition would sell for around $4000.00.
What is the condition of the other systems, steering, suspension, brake, fuel, etc.
If they have been redone recently $7k may be on par. If they need redone I feel it is a bit steep.

I would like to hear more about it since we seem to be on the same page.

Don --

>Thanks Don,
>This should make a good starting point. Perhaps useful in "helping" the
>owner to see that his asking price is a bit high.
>I'd like to compare what You got for Your 4K investment vs. what the
>Eleganza actually is.
>The Eleganza Frame is intact, with what I think is normal surface
>deterioration. What shape is the Sequoia frame in?
>The Eleganza is a '76. Is there any potential value difference in that
>and the '74 Sequoia once they are both back to showroom condition?
>The Eleganza alledgedly has a newly rebuilt "454". Did they ever come
>with a 454? Will a 454 match up or is the owner mistaken. How can I
>determine this, since I can't look at the engines and know the
>differences in a 454 and a 455?(yet!)
>At this point I'm of the opiniion $7,000 is too much. Do You agree?

>> I am doing the same thing, rebuilding a 74 Sequoia. I paid $4000 for mine. Inside and outside a mess, engine and transmission rebuilt 5000 miles prior.
>>
>> Don 77 Palm Beach
>> --
>>

>> >Well now I've done it! And don't know what to do now.
>> >After having searched for a ragged out GMC to totally rebuild, and
>> >finding one, now I'm not sure I want to pay $7,000(alledgedly firm
>> >price). Owner insists it's worth every penny of it.
>> >It's a '76 Eleganza.
>> >The outside is filthy and faded with a green gook coating.
>> >The inside appears to have been used for a goat shed.
>> >While I'm inclined to try it, I find myself wanting to feel that
>> >the price is not excessive.
>> >I'll appreciate any thoughts and suggestions.
>> >Tim Timothy
>> >'73 Glacier
>> >
>>
>> Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere!
>> http://www.mailexcite.com
>

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According to all my literature and my knowledge they only out 455 and 403 engines in the GMC. The owner my be wrong about it being a 454 or it has been replaced somewhere down the line.
The Sequoia had normal surface rust on the frame, nothing bad. It took me 6 weeks of playing with normal painting equipment (brush and scraper) to clean and repaint it. It has a 2 foot extension added to the back, someone did a very nice job on the frame and mechnical work, poor job on the body work. The steering had been rebuilt and the ball joints had been replaced right before I purchased it. It drives like a dream.
While I was considering undertaking this project I talked to many people. The fine folks at Golby told me a coach needing a full overhaul from the frame to the roof but in restorable condition would sell for around $4000.00.
What is the condition of the other systems, steering, suspension, brake, fuel, etc.
If they have been redone recently $7k may be on par. If they need redone I feel it is a bit steep.

I would like to hear more about it since we seem to be on the same page.

Don --

>Thanks Don,
>This should make a good starting point. Perhaps useful in "helping" the
>owner to see that his asking price is a bit high.
>I'd like to compare what You got for Your 4K investment vs. what the
>Eleganza actually is.
>The Eleganza Frame is intact, with what I think is normal surface
>deterioration. What shape is the Sequoia frame in?
>The Eleganza is a '76. Is there any potential value difference in that
>and the '74 Sequoia once they are both back to showroom condition?
>The Eleganza alledgedly has a newly rebuilt "454". Did they ever come
>with a 454? Will a 454 match up or is the owner mistaken. How can I
>determine this, since I can't look at the engines and know the
>differences in a 454 and a 455?(yet!)
>At this point I'm of the opiniion $7,000 is too much. Do You agree?

>> I am doing the same thing, rebuilding a 74 Sequoia. I paid $4000 for mine. Inside and outside a mess, engine and transmission rebuilt 5000 miles prior.
>>
>> Don 77 Palm Beach
>> --
>>

>> >Well now I've done it! And don't know what to do now.
>> >After having searched for a ragged out GMC to totally rebuild, and
>> >finding one, now I'm not sure I want to pay $7,000(alledgedly firm
>> >price). Owner insists it's worth every penny of it.
>> >It's a '76 Eleganza.
>> >The outside is filthy and faded with a green gook coating.
>> >The inside appears to have been used for a goat shed.
>> >While I'm inclined to try it, I find myself wanting to feel that
>> >the price is not excessive.
>> >I'll appreciate any thoughts and suggestions.
>> >Tim Timothy
>> >'73 Glacier
>> >
>>
>> Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere!
>> http://www.mailexcite.com
>

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>
> Tim,
> Just got back from a Rally, Where are located??
> Ed

I'm in Pensacola, Fl. Found the "rag" about 6hrs west of me.
Tim