Hole in my transmission pan!!!! Broke down

aaron fogg

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In Mammoth springs ar. Pouring out trans fluid. May have snapped the chain trying to get off the road. Need help if anyone is near by. Could use a
jack and a ride to the parts store to try to plug the hole or remove it and hammer it back out then get it welded up tomorrow.
 
One thing to avoid if at all possible. Straddling anything lying in the
center of your travel lane. That tranny pan is vulnerable. I guess you
found that out the hard way. I hope you didn't toast your transmission
running it low on fluid. Should be a replacement pan in the hands of
another GMCER in your area. Hope you can make the connections you need.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 12:28 PM Aaron Fogg via Gmclist <

> In Mammoth springs ar. Pouring out trans fluid. May have snapped the chain
> trying to get off the road. Need help if anyone is near by. Could use a
> jack and a ride to the parts store to try to plug the hole or remove it
> and hammer it back out then get it welded up tomorrow.
>
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Arron,

There are few in easy striking distance. Your are closer to Springfield Mo than much else. Black list has a number there.

If you have to load up the big guns, Unique Automotive is in North Little Rock, but that is 150 miles from you. They are good people.

Be sure to tell us about it when you are set.

Best of luck

Matt
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Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
 
I have a good usable pan that I could ship out to you. Give me and address to send it to and it is yours. I'm from NW Wisconsin.
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Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
 
> One thing to avoid if at all possible. Straddling anything lying in the
> center of your travel lane. That tranny pan is vulnerable. I guess you
> found that out the hard way. I hope you didn't toast your transmission
> running it low on fluid. Should be a replacement pan in the hands of
> another GMCER in your area. Hope you can make the connections you need.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon

Good advice. On my 4x4 I have a rock guard plate covering the bottom of the engine and transmission to protect them from damage when on rough trails.
Would it be helpful to make something like this for our GMCs? Or do you think it will only increase heat holding capacity (reduce air flow and
cooling) of the engine compartment and thus be more of a detriment?
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Vadim Jitkov
'76 Glenbrook 26'
Pullman, WA
 
Any update? I have a pan. I am two hours from you. Do you have a toad? On a short leash so let me know. Larry Nelson 417 849 2997.
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Larry Nelson Springfield, MO
Ex GMC'er, then GM Busnut
now '77 Eleganza ARS WB0JOT
 
You are also going to need a gasket, probably a filter, and 2 or 3 gallons of trans fluid.
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Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
So assuming by (reading some of this thread) that the lesson is to never hit a bump straight on?

Thinking that whenever possible one should raise the coach and drive to either side of the bump- whichever the situation allows?

You are also going to need a gasket, probably a filter, and 2 or 3 gallons of trans fluid.
--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana

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> Good advice. On my 4x4 I have a rock guard plate covering the bottom of the engine and transmission to protect them from damage when on rough
> trails. Would it be helpful to make something like this for our GMCs? Or do you think it will only increase heat holding capacity (reduce air flow
> and cooling) of the engine compartment and thus be more of a detriment?

Vadim,

Chaumière is an elder lady and at her age there is strike damage to both the transmission pan and both fuel tanks. She used to go to Mexico a lot
and I do not know where or how.

While strike damage should always be a concern, I don't know where you could mount such a guard on a TZE. I would not worry about the possible air
flow cooling loss as both the engine and the transmission have adequate coolers in the system. If one were concerned, I would think that a Regusa pan
might be a good answer.

One of my Jeeps had a heavy plate brazed to the bottom of the engine pan and it caused me plenty of greif, but I never had to worry about the oil
pan.

Matt
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Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
 
I consider Matt's Ragusa pan advice excellent. Last summer (2019), before
the Wuhan Virus hit us, I came around a curve and down a hill in N. GA to
find a railroad track across the road. Too close to react, I saw what the
tracks, rather than having gentle approaches, stood about 4" above the road
surface. When the front wheels hit the first track I could feel the front
end leave the ground. I never felt the 2nd track, but I did feel and hear
something strike the pavement when we landed. When the shoulder permitted
me to stop, a mile or two down the road, I got out and checked the front
end. There was no obvious damage, but the fins on the bottom of the Ragusa
pan were unusually shiny. Nothing was running out of the engine.

Back home on the service rack I took a better look at everything. There
seemed to be no damage to the tires nor the Manny One-Ton front
suspension. But the fins on the transmission pan were almost obliterated
at the rear of the pan -- scraped off by the highway asphalt when the GMC
landed after its aborted takeoff! But no other obvious damage -- it's
still leaking only at the flange, as it always has. Perhaps that
lubrication on the bottom helped it survive the crash?

Ken H.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 9:41 AM Matt Colie via Gmclist <

> > Good advice. On my 4x4 I have a rock guard plate covering the bottom of
> the engine and transmission to protect them from damage when on rough
> > trails. Would it be helpful to make something like this for our GMCs?
> Or do you think it will only increase heat holding capacity (reduce air flow
> > and cooling) of the engine compartment and thus be more of a detriment?
>
> Vadim,
>
> Chaumière is an elder lady and at her age there is strike damage to both
> the transmission pan and both fuel tanks. She used to go to Mexico a lot
> and I do not know where or how.
>
> While strike damage should always be a concern, I don't know where you
> could mount such a guard on a TZE. I would not worry about the possible air
> flow cooling loss as both the engine and the transmission have adequate
> coolers in the system. If one were concerned, I would think that a Regusa
> pan
> might be a good answer.
>
> One of my Jeeps had a heavy plate brazed to the bottom of the engine pan
> and it caused me plenty of greif, but I never had to worry about the oil
> pan.
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL,
> GMCES
> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum
> Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>
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> I consider Matt's Ragusa pan advice excellent. Last summer (2019), before
> the Wuhan Virus hit us, I came around a curve and down a hill in N. GA to
> find a railroad track across the road. Too close to react, I saw what the
> tracks, rather than having gentle approaches, stood about 4" above the road
> surface. When the front wheels hit the first track I could feel the front
> end leave the ground. I never felt the 2nd track, but I did feel and hear
> something strike the pavement when we landed. When the shoulder permitted
> me to stop, a mile or two down the road, I got out and checked the front
> end. There was no obvious damage, but the fins on the bottom of the Ragusa
> pan were unusually shiny. Nothing was running out of the engine.
>
> Back home on the service rack I took a better look at everything. There
> seemed to be no damage to the tires nor the Manny One-Ton front
> suspension. But the fins on the transmission pan were almost obliterated
> at the rear of the pan -- scraped off by the highway asphalt when the GMC
> landed after its aborted takeoff! But no other obvious damage -- it's
> still leaking only at the flange, as it always has. Perhaps that
> lubrication on the bottom helped it survive the crash?
>
> Ken H.

Ken, have you considered writing as a hobby? I bet you could put together a collection of stories for all ages. The way you describe things make my
ribs ache from laughing. GMC's aborted takeoff - very clear visual on that one :lol:
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Vadim Jitkov
'76 Glenbrook 26'
Pullman, WA
 
Thanks for your comments, Vadim. Glad you enjoyed the writeup.

With a USAF flying career behind me, I could think of no more apt
description than "crash landing" during an "aborted takeoff" for we
experienced. :-)

Ken H.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 3:13 PM Vadim Jitkov via Gmclist <

> > I consider Matt's Ragusa pan advice excellent. Last summer (2019),
> before
> > the Wuhan Virus hit us, I came around a curve and down a hill in N. GA to
> > find a railroad track across the road. Too close to react, I saw what
> the
> > tracks, rather than having gentle approaches, stood about 4" above the
> road
> > surface. When the front wheels hit the first track I could feel the
> front
> > end leave the ground. I never felt the 2nd track, but I did feel and
> hear
> > something strike the pavement when we landed. When the shoulder
> permitted
> > me to stop, a mile or two down the road, I got out and checked the front
> > end. There was no obvious damage, but the fins on the bottom of the
> Ragusa
> > pan were unusually shiny. Nothing was running out of the engine.
> >
> > Back home on the service rack I took a better look at everything. There
> > seemed to be no damage to the tires nor the Manny One-Ton front
> > suspension. But the fins on the transmission pan were almost obliterated
> > at the rear of the pan -- scraped off by the highway asphalt when the GMC
> > landed after its aborted takeoff! But no other obvious damage -- it's
> > still leaking only at the flange, as it always has. Perhaps that
> > lubrication on the bottom helped it survive the crash?
> >
> > Ken H.
>
> Ken, have you considered writing as a hobby? I bet you could put together
> a collection of stories for all ages. The way you describe things make my
> ribs ache from laughing. GMC's aborted takeoff - very clear visual on that
> one :lol:
> --
> Vadim Jitkov
> '76 Glenbrook 26'
> Pullman, WA
>
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