Heater

Get a SOB!

>HELP HELP HELP
>
>Need help from you GMCers from the cold part of the country.
>
>My heater does not throw enough of heat. What do I look for??
>
>I'll try everybodys suggestion.
>
>Ed Lubo
>75 Landau
>NJ
>
>
Tom & Marg Warner
Vernon Center NY
1976 palmbeach
 
If you have access to the April, 1995 issue of GMC Motorhome Marketplace,
there's an article by Bill Howard that includes adding a heater core under the
refrigerator. It uses the hot water line to the water heater to pick up a
source of additional cabin heat. He included a three speed blower to regulate
output.

Having bought this coach from Bill's widow, I can attest to its effectiveness in
keeping it comfortable in cold weather

Clark
78 Kingsley
Mid-Michigan
 
Ed,
You didn't get enought heat while moving or park?
If only moving, you need to plug up all the air leak.

sam eng
NJ

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ELUBO [SMTP:ELUBO]
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 1998 7:53 PM
> To: gmcmotorhome
> Subject: GMC: Heater
>
> HELP HELP HELP
>
> Need help from you GMCers from the cold part of the country.
>
> My heater does not throw enough of heat. What do I look for??
>
> I'll try everybodys suggestion.
>
> Ed Lubo
> 75 Landau
> NJ
 
Ed

One of the member's recently offered to distribute via snail-mail a copy of
the 1977 GMC service bulletin re. plugging some of the air leaks in the
front seam area. These are the body panel/floorboard seams that can be
seen through the service access panels, or beneath the front of the coach.

Chuck
77 Kingsley
North Idaho

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> From: Eng, Sam G, SITS
> To: gmcmotorhome
> Subject: RE: GMC: Heater
> Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 2:32 PM
>
> Ed,
> You didn't get enought heat while moving or park?
> If only moving, you need to plug up all the air leak.
>
> sam eng
> NJ
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ELUBO [SMTP:ELUBO]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 1998 7:53 PM
> > To: gmcmotorhome
> > Subject: GMC: Heater
> >
> > HELP HELP HELP
> >
> > Need help from you GMCers from the cold part of the country.
> >
> > My heater does not throw enough of heat. What do I look for??
> >
> > I'll try everybodys suggestion.
> >
> > Ed Lubo
> > 75 Landau
> > NJ
 
Chuck. Is north Idaho where you live or just visiting? Where in N. Idaho? If
this is a permanent residence I have a proposition for you. Please reply to my
email at paget . This way we don't have to bore everyone else.
Ha. I can just bore the heck out of you Thanks.. Darren 76 unknown

> Ed
>
> One of the member's recently offered to distribute via snail-mail a copy of
> the 1977 GMC service bulletin re. plugging some of the air leaks in the
> front seam area. These are the body panel/floorboard seams that can be
> seen through the service access panels, or beneath the front of the coach.
>
> Chuck
> 77 Kingsley
> North Idaho
>
> ----------
> > From: Eng, Sam G, SITS
> > To: gmcmotorhome
> > Subject: RE: GMC: Heater
> > Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 2:32 PM
> >
> > Ed,
> > You didn't get enought heat while moving or park?
> > If only moving, you need to plug up all the air leak.
> >
> > sam eng
> > NJ
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ELUBO [SMTP:ELUBO]
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 1998 7:53 PM
> > > To: gmcmotorhome
> > > Subject: GMC: Heater
> > >
> > > HELP HELP HELP
> > >
> > > Need help from you GMCers from the cold part of the country.
> > >
> > > My heater does not throw enough of heat. What do I look for??
> > >
> > > I'll try everybodys suggestion.
> > >
> > > Ed Lubo
> > > 75 Landau
> > > NJ
 
>
> My problem is that I do not get heat from the vents in the dash.
> Only cold air.

Ed,

Might be a bad heater control valve. Should be right up front under the
passenger side access cover. In Duane Simmons presentation at Marion,
he said you should be able to blow through the valve with no vacuum
applied. You could try bypassing yours temporarily(pick up a 5/8in hose
union at Home Depot) and see if the heat works without it.

Also check to be sure the bowden cable actually moves the air door.

Patrick
- --
Patrick Flowers
Mailto:patri63

The GMC Motorhome Page
http://www.gmcmotorhome.com
 
Ed

I will review my files this evening, and post tomorrow.

Chuck

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> From: Ted Schurman
> To: gmcmotorhome
> Subject: Re: GMC: Heater
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 1:48 PM
>

> >
> > Ed
> >
> > One of the member's recently offered to distribute via snail-mail a
copy of
> > the 1977 GMC service bulletin re. plugging some of the air leaks in the
> > front seam area. These are the body panel/floorboard seams that can be
> > seen through the service access panels, or beneath the front of the
coach.
> >
> > Chuck
> > 77 Kingsley
> > North Idaho
> >
>
> Can you reference the specific Service Bulletin so that we do not have
> to search all of them.
> Thanks
> Ted Schurman
> 73 Glacier VA
 
>
> Ed
>
> One of the member's recently offered to distribute via snail-mail a copy of
> the 1977 GMC service bulletin re. plugging some of the air leaks in the
> front seam area. These are the body panel/floorboard seams that can be
> seen through the service access panels, or beneath the front of the coach.
>
> Chuck
> 77 Kingsley
> North Idaho
>

Can you reference the specific Service Bulletin so that we do not have
to search all of them.
Thanks
Ted Schurman
73 Glacier VA
 
>

>
> Can you reference the specific Service Bulletin so that we do not have
> to search all of them.
> Thanks
> Ted Schurman
> 73 Glacier VA
> >>
> It is Dealer Service Technical Bulletin Number 77-TM-1, Group 1-Cab & Body-1,
> dated February 1977
> Justin
> 77 Palm Beach, OKC

Justin sent me a copy of this bulletin. I'll try to get it scanned and
on the site this weekend.

Patrick
- --
Patrick Flowers
Mailto:patri63

The GMC Motorhome Page
http://www.gmcmotorhome.com
 
On my "new" 1978 ELEGANZA II is what previous owner called a "box heater" he
thinks was installed by original owner. He said that it started blowing
fuses so he quit using it several years ago. All heat now comes from the
in-dash air-conditioning vents, no way to direct heat to come from floor.
The "box" is installed under the steering column beneath the floor
accessible from the left hood door. It has four openings, air hoses clamped
to two go to floor vents, two other openings have been sealed. Another
opening has a slightly larger hose attached that just hangs loose. Beneath
the instrument panel is a blue light and a rotating switch. Is anyone
familiar with such a heater, and can you give me any information as to where
loose hose should be attached and wiring information??
Thanks
Neely B.
Tenn
 
On my "new" 1978 ELEGANZA II is what previous owner called a "box heater" he
thinks was installed by original owner. He said that it started blowing
fuses so he quit using it several years ago. All heat now comes from the
in-dash air-conditioning vents, no way to direct heat to come from floor.
The "box" is installed under the steering column beneath the floor
accessible from the left hood door. It has four openings, air hoses clamped
to two go to floor vents, two other openings have been sealed. Another
opening has a slightly larger hose attached that just hangs loose. Beneath
the instrument panel is a blue light and a rotating switch. Is anyone
familiar with such a heater, and can you give me any information as to where
loose hose should be attached and wiring information??
Thanks
Neely B.
Tenn
 
Hello Neely,
My first knowledge of the "Box Heater" is from the days when trucks
did not come equipped with heaters. The simple box heater is nothing
more than a sheet metal case housing a heater core(a small radiator)
and a fan.
There are normally only two wires going to the heater - 12v pos & neg.
The first thing needed is to determine the reason it blows fuses.
Once that is corrected, Hook it up, turn it on and see where she blows.
My speculation is that the hose laying loose was the design of the
installer so that he could easily redirect the heat as needed.
As You look into it, the simplicity will become apparent.
Tim Timothy
73 Glacier NW FL.- no heater needed here tonite

> On my "new" 1978 ELEGANZA II is what previous owner called a "box heater" ...... Is anyone familiar with such a heater...?...
> Thanks
> Neely B.
> Tenn
 
Larry,
Thanks so much for your help. You and others have been so tolerant. Thanks
again.
Neely B
Tenn
- -----Original Message-----
From: LARRY DTIMOTHY
To: gmcmotorhome
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: GMC: Heater

>Hello Neely,
>My first knowledge of the "Box Heater" is from the days when trucks
>did not come equipped with heaters. The simple box heater is nothing
>more than a sheet metal case housing a heater core(a small radiator)
>and a fan.
>There are normally only two wires going to the heater - 12v pos & neg.
>The first thing needed is to determine the reason it blows fuses.
>Once that is corrected, Hook it up, turn it on and see where she blows.
>My speculation is that the hose laying loose was the design of the
>installer so that he could easily redirect the heat as needed.
>As You look into it, the simplicity will become apparent.
>Tim Timothy
>73 Glacier NW FL.- no heater needed here tonite
>

>> On my "new" 1978 ELEGANZA II is what previous owner called a "box heater"
...... Is anyone familiar with such a heater...?...
>> Thanks
>> Neely B.
>> Tenn
 
Very well said Mr. Arch!
Thank You so much.
Tim Timothy

> Neely
> We have not been tolerant. That sounds like we have put up with you.
> That is not the case. The Internet is a new place --------it does not cost us
> to help you. It will not cost you to help us. To help you we may get from
> you something we need very bad-------all for the same price. We who are
> older will have a hard time understanding this concept. We have always
> done things for money. There is a new commodity-------information. It will
> take us awhile to understand it. Enjoy my friend------the game has changed.
> Dont be fearful-------come to love it. Its fun.
> Take Care
> Arch