Headliner

ron preston

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Hi all,
I'm replacing my headliner, and I want to find a source for the plastic
mouldings etc. I had bookmarked a source from this forum but
accidentally deleted it. Iwas thinking of replacing the cardboard/foam
backing with 1/4 bendable plywood. Any other suggestions? Also what
are you all using for additional insulation?
Thanks ,
Ron Preston 75 Glenbrook
San José
 
I'd like to replace mine too. Any reply's?

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:13 AM, ron preston
wrote:

> Hi all,
> I'm replacing my headliner, and I want to find a source for the plastic
> mouldings etc. I had bookmarked a source from this forum but
> accidentally deleted it. Iwas thinking of replacing the cardboard/foam
> backing with 1/4 bendable plywood. Any other suggestions? Also what
> are you all using for additional insulation?
> Thanks ,
> Ron Preston 75 Glenbrook
> San José
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One of "the Jims" i'd imagine. :)

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Cesar Carrasco
wrote:

> I'd like to replace mine too. Any reply's?
>
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:13 AM, ron preston

>
> > Hi all,
> > I'm replacing my headliner, and I want to find a source for the
> plastic
> > mouldings etc. I had bookmarked a source from this forum but
> > accidentally deleted it. Iwas thinking of replacing the cardboard/foam
> > backing with 1/4 bendable plywood. Any other suggestions? Also what
> > are you all using for additional insulation?
> > Thanks ,
> > Ron Preston 75 Glenbrook
> > San José
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Most are using FRP or ABS with success for the main panels. ABS is more expensive, but easier to work with. You also won't have to worry about future
water damage with either.

You can reuse the transition strips if you remove them carefully. I washed and painted mine with Krylon to match the new white roof. For the conduit
covering on the side, the Panduit C3WH6 worked perfectly for me. You'll need 5 or 6 pieces to do the whole coach :)

Shaun
--
1977 Palm Beach, 455, mostly stock and original
 
Ron,
I used 3mm panels, sealed the top with 2 coats, 1 coat on bottom of varnish thinned 30%. Some use plastic shower panels, what ever material you use,
take a scrap piece and work the width needed (don't use the original panels, they're probably short by now), measure 3 times and cut once.

When installing the panels, 2 person is best to put the sides in then get something that's 30" or so wide
by the length of the panel, to push the panel center up, or you'll stand a chance of cracking it dew to
openings. The hardest panels to install for me was over the fridge/galley and the rear going into closet/shower (without braking).

If you use some upholstery material, use only DAP Weldwood HHR #70798 00095 contact glue (High Heat Resistant) look for at upholstery suppliers. Or
the material will come down in the heat of summer.

For insulation I used foam boards from HD or Lowes, 2 layers of 3/4" and can foam for glue. You must hold the pieces in place until the foam sets, the
expansion will dislodge the piece. About the OEM foam, I used a scraper to remove it. I feel that foam wasn't for insulation but more for sound
control. MacMaster-Carr sells spray foam in small containers size.

Need more, text or call.

> Hi all,
> I'm replacing my headliner, and I want to find a source for the plastic
> mouldings etc. I had bookmarked a source from this forum but
> accidentally deleted it. Iwas thinking of replacing the cardboard/foam
> backing with 1/4 bendable plywood. Any other suggestions? Also what
> are you all using for additional insulation?
> Thanks ,
> Ron Preston 75 Glenbrook
> San José
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
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Adrien & Jenny Genesoto
75 Glenbrook 26-3
Yuba City,Ca. Text 530-nine-3-three-3-nine-nine-6
 
My PO did the headliner this way:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3244-headliner-installation.html

It looks great and we really like it. Especially nice is that the center section is easily removable making it easier to add wiring for additional
lights, antennas etc.
--
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles,
Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
 
Ron

I'm using FRP panels from Lowes. They also sell a variety of trim strips that fit the FRP.

Dennis

> Hi all,
> I'm replacing my headliner, and I want to find a source for the plastic
> mouldings etc. I had bookmarked a source from this forum but
> accidentally deleted it. Iwas thinking of replacing the cardboard/foam
> backing with 1/4 bendable plywood. Any other suggestions? Also what
> are you all using for additional insulation?
> Thanks ,
> Ron Preston 75 Glenbrook
> San José
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Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
 
Ron

Another source for trim - more for edges of wall panels around windows.

https://www.trimlok.com

Dennis

> Ron
>
> I'm using FRP panels from Lowes. They also sell a variety of trim strips that fit the FRP.
>
> Dennis
>

> > Hi all,
> > I'm replacing my headliner, and I want to find a source for the plastic
> > mouldings etc. I had bookmarked a source from this forum but
> > accidentally deleted it. Iwas thinking of replacing the cardboard/foam
> > backing with 1/4 bendable plywood. Any other suggestions? Also what
> > are you all using for additional insulation?
> > Thanks ,
> > Ron Preston 75 Glenbrook
> > San José
> > _______________________________________________
> > GMCnet mailing list
> > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
 
> I'm replacing my headliner, and I want to find a source for the plastic mouldings etc. I had bookmarked a source from this forum but accidentally deleted it. Iwas thinking of replacing the cardboard/foam backing with 1/4 bendable plywood. Any other suggestions? Also what are you all using for additional insulation?


Here’s what I did with FRP and isocyanurate insulation board:

Ceiling Replacement http://www.jcmco.com/gallery/album01

—Jim

Jim Miller
1977 Eleganza
1977 Royale
Hamilton, OH
 
Ron
I didn't read all the replies but I found 1/4 way too thick..try 1/8.

Mike in NS

>
> > I'm replacing my headliner, and I want to find a source for the
> plastic mouldings etc. I had bookmarked a source from this forum but
> accidentally deleted it. Iwas thinking of replacing the cardboard/foam
> backing with 1/4 bendable plywood. Any other suggestions? Also what
> are you all using for additional insulation?
>
>
> Here’s what I did with FRP and isocyanurate insulation board:
>
> Ceiling Replacement http://www.jcmco.com/gallery/album01
>
> —Jim
>
> Jim Miller
> 1977 Eleganza
> 1977 Royale
> Hamilton, OH
>
>
>
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Michael Beaton
1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS

Life is too short to hold a grudge; slash some tires and call it even !
 
I done mine the way that Randy Van Winkle did his. Get the 3/16 or 1/4"
plastic corrugated signboard, cut it to fit the curvature so that it'll pop
into place. Use landau top contact cement to attach hull liner fabric.
Impervious to moisture and is sound dampening. Looks and performs great!

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Coroplast-48-in-x-96-in-x-0-157-in-White-Corrugated-Plastic-Sheet-CP4896S/205351385

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/281094382720?chn=ps&dispItem=1

http://www.sailrite.com/HullBlanket-Headliner-Hull-Liner-Carpet-Type-Ivory-M93-72?gclid=CjwKCAjw3f3NBRBPEiwAiiHxGPfCJktw-OL2LeCIMq4p67q1QKW2BlfCN11aWX-SBuoZmrwIh_rlmxoCk0AQAvD_BwE

https://www.harborfreight.com/20-oz-8-cfm-gravity-feed-spray-gun-67181.html

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/search.php?searchid=331109

bdub

> >
> > > I'm replacing my headliner, and I want to find a source for the
> > plastic mouldings etc. I had bookmarked a source from this forum but
> > accidentally deleted it. Iwas thinking of replacing the cardboard/foam
> > backing with 1/4 bendable plywood. Any other suggestions? Also what
> > are you all using for additional insulation?
>
 
I used FRP (fibre reinforced plastic) and it worked very successfully. Wish I had kept the old panels as panels. One side had a “bubble” finish so I used the back (it was smooth) and painted it with krylon.
Its now smooth and hard. Sound deadening it is not. For the joints I made a shallow wood cove with a strip of LEDs hidden in it. The centre portion of the ceiling I sprayed with a texture, the idea being to have the LEDs in the cove shine out along the ceiling. Gives the appearance of ‘depth’. An old interior design trick. Anyway in spite of my lack of 'fitting skills’ it looks quite good.
For Insulation I left the old factory stuff in place and sprayed the space full with foam. Took some time to scrape the excess down, but it all got done.
Peter Garry
73 - 23ft
Calgary Alberta
 
Lets see some pics.....

> I used FRP (fibre reinforced plastic) and it worked very successfully.
> Wish I had kept the old panels as panels. One side had a “bubble” finish so
> I used the back (it was smooth) and painted it with krylon.
> Its now smooth and hard. Sound deadening it is not. For the joints I made
> a shallow wood cove with a strip of LEDs hidden in it. The centre portion
> of the ceiling I sprayed with a texture, the idea being to have the LEDs in
> the cove shine out along the ceiling. Gives the appearance of ‘depth’. An
> old interior design trick. Anyway in spite of my lack of 'fitting skills’
> it looks quite good.
> For Insulation I left the old factory stuff in place and sprayed the space
> full with foam. Took some time to scrape the excess down, but it all got
> done.
> Peter Garry
> 73 - 23ft
> Calgary Alberta
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I used FRP from Depot or Lowes, It comes in polar white or off white. I used the while, and put the textured side facing out. This helps to break
up any irregularities or anything else you may see looking from one end to the other.
Its water proof so it wont stain, its easy to clean.
Provided its not frozen its easy to cut with tin snips or a fine tooth band saw if you have a helper.

Use the old panels which come out as your templates for the new panels That will save you many hours of adjustments. The aluminum channels on the
edges will actually hold the sheet in place and provided you cut them correctly they will bow up and basically hold themselves up long enough to put a
pop rivet or two in them.

I used V 47 Cap and Retainer from Nuddo Company as recommended by another GMCer. It worked awesome. Put the retainer in, pop rivet in a few spaces
and then once two panels are butted together you put the snap the cap on top of it. Nice clean look, covers all the rivets and holds everything tight.
Nice stuff and it matches the color.

As long as you like white, there is no need for glue, paint etc. and Yes, this can be a one person job with some patience. Lastly. Start at the
rear of the coach with the new panels and work forward to the cap. If the cap has yellowed, Krylon White Fusion is a perfect match.

Its a rewarding job once its done.
--
77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy.
Mid Michigan
 
Mines a little different.
I used aluminum. Like the kind used to skin enclosed trailers. I didn't like the textured side of frp and the non textured side is not flat or even at
all would have driven me crazy haha.

--
Justin Brady
http://www.thegmcrv.com/
1976 Palm Beach 455
 
Justin, do you have pics?

> Mines a little different.
> I used aluminum. Like the kind used to skin enclosed trailers. I didn't
> like the textured side of frp and the non textured side is not flat or even
> at
> all would have driven me crazy haha.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Justin Brady
> http://www.thegmcrv.com/
> 1976 Palm Beach 455
>
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Thanks to all for the headliner suggestions, guess I'll go to HD first to
see whats available. Would like to incorporate some LED lights if possible.
I'm going to glue a foam backed fabric to the substrate as I want as
much noise and thermal insulation as possible. (And thats what the wife
wants). Thanks Cesar for the glue suggestion. Getting the stuff to lay on
with no wrinkles may be a challenge.
Ron Preston
75 Glenbrook
San jose
 
Ron,

When I put the headliner in my X-Birchaven in '98, I used "duct board"
(Masonite coated on one side with white Melamine, making it totally
impervious to water) for the substrate, white site up. I installed all of
the panels in my gutted coach, by cutting them to length and width and
popping them into place as others have suggested. Only a few pop rivets
were necessary to secure them to the ribs. Rather than use trim strips at
the joints, I glued a single piece of polypropylene Indoor-Outdoor carpet
to the panels, covering the seams. The I-O carpet is like "hull liner" but
2-3 times as thick -- it was cheap since my BIL is in that business.

To mount the carpet I built a "dead man" consisting of a single 2x4 beam
down the middle of the coach supported by vertical stanchions. I hung the
carpet over the beam, then sprayed high temperature contact cement on the
panels and the back of the carpet in end-to-end stripes, adhering the
carpet as the cement set. Working side-to-side, the carpet went into place
quite easily -- much more so than one would expect. It's still there 19
years later and looks almost as good as the day it was finished. I like
the seamless ceiling from the front cap to the rear cap.

The I-O carpet is impervious to almost everything -- I could clean spots
with lacquer thinner if necessary. I could have chosen a better color than
the light grey, but we still like it. A couple of small "bubbles" have
developed over the years. Tiny cuts hidden in the pattern of the carpet
admitted a spray nozzle and cement to fix those quickly and easily. The
biggest problem is that it would be impossible to do any repair,
replacement, or modification in the ceiling without cutting the carpet and
then installing trim strips. Since all of my panels extend side rail to
side rail, I'd never attempt such anyway.

Ken H.

> Thanks to all for the headliner suggestions, guess I'll go to HD first to
> see whats available. Would like to incorporate some LED lights if possible.
> I'm going to glue a foam backed fabric to the substrate as I want as
> much noise and thermal insulation as possible. (And thats what the wife
> wants). Thanks Cesar for the glue suggestion. Getting the stuff to lay on
> with no wrinkles may be a challenge.
>