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todd sullivan

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Anyone have a link or source for a product to pin the headliner up at its joints? There is an aftermarket two piece system from a 90's remodel in my
coach now but several of them are destroyed from water. Need to replace a couple sections of headliner but need to find a similar retainer system.
System in coach now has a steel screw strip and a three sided decorative cover like a C channel (also steel) which snaps over screw strip. I am not
aspiring for a perfect match to what is here but something of similar design. Your ideas/ experiences / advice welcomed.
--
Sully
77 Royale (The War Pig)
77 Eleganza 2 ( Recherché )
Seattle, wa
Future land speed record holder fully equipped motorhome (bucket list)
 
I have a set of the original ones that I had purchased for someone about three years ago and then they told me they didn't want them.
I paid $10 for the set. Do you want them?

Emery Stora

>
> Anyone have a link or source for a product to pin the headliner up at its joints? There is an aftermarket two piece system from a 90's remodel in my
> coach now but several of them are destroyed from water. Need to replace a couple sections of headliner but need to find a similar retainer system.
> System in coach now has a steel screw strip and a three sided decorative cover like a C channel (also steel) which snaps over screw strip. I am not
> aspiring for a perfect match to what is here but something of similar design. Your ideas/ experiences / advice welcomed.
> --
> Sully
> 77 Royale (The War Pig)
> 77 Eleganza 2 ( Recherché )
> Seattle, wa
> Future land speed record holder fully equipped motorhome (bucket list)
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Perhaps Emery. Can you send me some pics?

Sully

> I have a set of the original ones that I had purchased for someone about
> three years ago and then they told me they didn't want them.
> I paid $10 for the set. Do you want them?
>
> Emery Stora
>
> > On Sep 19, 2016, at 5:05 PM, Todd Sullivan >
> > Anyone have a link or source for a product to pin the headliner up at
> its joints? There is an aftermarket two piece system from a 90's remodel in
> my
> > coach now but several of them are destroyed from water. Need to replace
> a couple sections of headliner but need to find a similar retainer system.
> > System in coach now has a steel screw strip and a three sided decorative
> cover like a C channel (also steel) which snaps over screw strip. I am not
> > aspiring for a perfect match to what is here but something of similar
> design. Your ideas/ experiences / advice welcomed.
> > --
> > Sully
> > 77 Royale (The War Pig)
> > 77 Eleganza 2 ( Recherché )
> > Seattle, wa
> > Future land speed record holder fully equipped motorhome (bucket list)
> >
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Of course, Sully gets first crack at the units Emery has. But I am also interested in a source for these, as I am about to be replacing the headliner
in mine.
--
Paul Zerkel
'78 Eleganza II
Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
 
They are home in my garage in the Denver area and I am now in Grand Rapids Michigan and we’ll be going from her to the Mansfield, Ohio GMCMI convention.
So, I can’t get you a picture until next month when I get home.

They are the ones that GM used in all the GMC motorhomes. I have a 1977 and mine are identical to the ones that I have in my garage. So, if you look at about any GMC you can see what they look like.

Emery

>
> Anyone have a link or source for a product to pin the headliner up at its joints? There is an aftermarket two piece system from a 90's remodel in my
> coach now but several of them are destroyed from water. Need to replace a couple sections of headliner but need to find a similar retainer system.
> System in coach now has a steel screw strip and a three sided decorative cover like a C channel (also steel) which snaps over screw strip. I am not
> aspiring for a perfect match to what is here but something of similar design. Your ideas/ experiences / advice welcomed.
> --
> Sully
> 77 Royale (The War Pig)
> 77 Eleganza 2 ( Recherché )
> Seattle, wa
> Future land speed record holder fully equipped motorhome (bucket list)
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Paul

Careful in removal will give you something to snap back in place. My job
for today(replacement) ! And as Emery said any 'parts' or 'salvage' GMC
will have them

Mike in NS

> They are home in my garage in the Denver area and I am now in Grand Rapids
> Michigan and we’ll be going from her to the Mansfield, Ohio GMCMI
> convention.
> So, I can’t get you a picture until next month when I get home.
>
> They are the ones that GM used in all the GMC motorhomes. I have a 1977
> and mine are identical to the ones that I have in my garage. So, if you
> look at about any GMC you can see what they look like.
>
> Emery
>

> >
> > Anyone have a link or source for a product to pin the headliner up at
> its joints? There is an aftermarket two piece system from a 90's remodel in
> my
> > coach now but several of them are destroyed from water. Need to replace
> a couple sections of headliner but need to find a similar retainer system.
> > System in coach now has a steel screw strip and a three sided decorative
> cover like a C channel (also steel) which snaps over screw strip. I am not
> > aspiring for a perfect match to what is here but something of similar
> design. Your ideas/ experiences / advice welcomed.
> > --
> > Sully
> > 77 Royale (The War Pig)
> > 77 Eleganza 2 ( Recherché )
> > Seattle, wa
> > Future land speed record holder fully equipped motorhome (bucket list)
> >
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Michael Beaton
1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS

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> They are home in my garage in the Denver area and I am now in Grand Rapids Michigan and we'll be going from her to the Mansfield, Ohio GMCMI
> convention.
> So, I can't get you a picture until next month when I get home.
>
> Emery

Emery,

This is the best news I have had in a long time.

Matt
--
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'73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brake with Applied Control Arms
Now with both true Keyless and remote entry
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
 
If all you are trying to do is cover the gap, I used a 2 piece plastic trim from big box store. Took a slight modification, but works fine.
The black plastic piece, that needs to be attached to the ribs, has 4 ribs. You need to remove the outside ribs, leaving just the center two. The
decorative cover will snap in and hold to the inner two ribs.
Tom, MS II
--
1975 GMC Avion
KA4CSG
 
Was hoping to pin the ceiling panels similar to Oem, panels held with the
under strip which receives the decorative strip. What product from Home
Depot are you talking about specifically?

Sully

> If all you are trying to do is cover the gap, I used a 2 piece plastic
> trim from big box store. Took a slight modification, but works fine.
> The black plastic piece, that needs to be attached to the ribs, has 4
> ribs. You need to remove the outside ribs, leaving just the center two. The
> decorative cover will snap in and hold to the inner two ribs.
> Tom, MS II
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http://www.lowes.com/pd/Screen-Tight-1-5-in-White-Porch-Screening-System-Cap/3024713

http://www.lowes.com/pd/Screen-Tight-Porch-Screening-System-Base-Strip/3024709

> Was hoping to pin the ceiling panels similar to Oem, panels held with the
> under strip which receives the decorative strip. What product from Home
> Depot are you talking about specifically?
>
> Sully
>

>
> > If all you are trying to do is cover the gap, I used a 2 piece plastic
> > trim from big box store. Took a slight modification, but works fine.
> > The black plastic piece, that needs to be attached to the ribs, has 4
> > ribs. You need to remove the outside ribs, leaving just the center two.
> The
> > decorative cover will snap in and hold to the inner two ribs.
> > Tom, MS II
>
 
Sweet Bdub. Thanks!

Sully

> http://www.lowes.com/pd/Screen-Tight-1-5-in-White-
> Porch-Screening-System-Cap/3024713
>
> http://www.lowes.com/pd/Screen-Tight-Porch-Screening-
> System-Base-Strip/3024709
>
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Todd Sullivan
> > Was hoping to pin the ceiling panels similar to Oem, panels held with the
> > under strip which receives the decorative strip. What product from Home
> > Depot are you talking about specifically?
> >
> > Sully
> >
> > On Monday, September 19, 2016, Thomas Phipps >
> > > If all you are trying to do is cover the gap, I used a 2 piece plastic
> > > trim from big box store. Took a slight modification, but works fine.
> > > The black plastic piece, that needs to be attached to the ribs, has 4
> > > ribs. You need to remove the outside ribs, leaving just the center two.
> > The
> > > decorative cover will snap in and hold to the inner two ribs.
> > > Tom, MS II
> >
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I will gladly take the set Emery. If I solve it before I get them I will offer them back to the GMC net.
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Sully
77 Royale (The War Pig)
77 Eleganza 2 ( Recherché )
Seattle, wa
Future land speed record holder fully equipped motorhome (bucket list)
 
FWIW I did some internet searching and came across an ebay vendor called Babette's. If you google it or look it up on ebay she has a bunch of niche
products including a trim system very similar to the oem with a few size / design options. Since the big box is right around the corner I will start
there.
--
Sully
77 Royale (The War Pig)
77 Eleganza 2 ( Recherché )
Seattle, wa
Future land speed record holder fully equipped motorhome (bucket list)
 
I was private messaged by a forum user who sent me info for a company that manufactures strips similar to the oem ones. I ordered and received enough
to do the whole ceiling and some of the walls so Emery I will not need the oe ones you offered. I know someone else chimed in on this thread with
interest in the oe ones Emery had so you are now first in line I believe. I will post once they are installed with a report on how they worked for me.

--
Sully

77 Eleganza 2 ( Recherché )
Seattle, wa
 
I was sent this by another GMCer a few years back.

http://www.nudo.com/p_vinyl_trim.php?crumb=%3Ca+href%3D%27l_extrusions_trims.php%27%3EExtrusions/Trims%3C/a%3E

I used V 47 when I redid my headliner with FRP panels. Depending on the thickness of your panels this may work, Its a very nice installation, and
by golly when the cap is pushed into the retainer its not going anywhere for a long time. No exposed screws or heads, and a nice clean finish over
every seam.

--
77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy.
Mid Michigan
 
> I was sent this by another GMCer a few years back.
>
> http://www.nudo.com/p_vinyl_trim.php?crumb=%3Ca+href%3D%27l_extrusions_trims.php%27%3EExtrusions/Trims%3C/a%3E
>
> I used V 47 when I redid my headliner with FRP panels. Depending on the thickness of your panels this may work, Its a very nice installation,
> and by golly when the cap is pushed into the retainer its not going anywhere for a long time. No exposed screws or heads, and a nice clean finish
> over every seam.

This looks nice and clean, any chance you have some photos prior to the cap being inserted into the retainer? I'm trying to visualize how the retainer
works, does it hold the liner in place?

I will probably need to do a headliner replace and am looking for ideas, oem look as well as creative new options. Please forward photos or videos,
all input is welcomed and appreciated.

Regards,
Mike
 
I did go with the nudo trim. They have a few options which will work but
after talking with a rep decided the safest option for varying thickness of
panels was to use the surface mounted retainer vs a retainer which is
mounted under the trim panel. The rep stated that if the panels were
mounted too close to the retaining groove it may not allow proper retention
of the finisher. The other potential issue with the sandwich type approach
is that if the panels used are too thin the finisher may not sit flush and
if the panels are too thick the finisher may not snap in at all. Since I
will be using a variety of panel types I went with the surface mount
retainer which is very similar to the oe. The retainer for the finisher
mounts on top of the panels and then the finisher snaps into place and
covers the retainer and panel fasteners. For joints at varying panel
types/thickness a shim under the thinner panel should level the retainer
strip and thus the finisher

Sully
77 eleganza 2
Seattle

> > I was sent this by another GMCer a few years back.
> >
> > http://www.nudo.com/p_vinyl_trim.php?crumb=%3Ca+href%3D%
> 27l_extrusions_trims.php%27%3EExtrusions/Trims%3C/a%3E
> >
> > I used V 47 when I redid my headliner with FRP panels. Depending on
> the thickness of your panels this may work, Its a very nice installation,
> > and by golly when the cap is pushed into the retainer its not going
> anywhere for a long time. No exposed screws or heads, and a nice clean
> finish
> > over every seam.
>
>
> This looks nice and clean, any chance you have some photos prior to the
> cap being inserted into the retainer? I'm trying to visualize how the
> retainer
> works, does it hold the liner in place?
>
> I will probably need to do a headliner replace and am looking for ideas,
> oem look as well as creative new options. Please forward photos or videos,
> all input is welcomed and appreciated.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>
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> I did go with the nudo trim. They have a few options which will work but
> after talking with a rep decided the safest option for varying thickness of
> panels was to use the surface mounted retainer vs a retainer which is
> mounted under the trim panel. The rep stated that if the panels were
> mounted too close to the retaining groove it may not allow proper retention
> of the finisher. The other potential issue with the sandwich type approach
> is that if the panels used are too thin the finisher may not sit flush and
> if the panels are too thick the finisher may not snap in at all. Since I
> will be using a variety of panel types I went with the surface mount
> retainer which is very similar to the oe. The retainer for the finisher
> mounts on top of the panels and then the finisher snaps into place and
> covers the retainer and panel fasteners. For joints at varying panel
> types/thickness a shim under the thinner panel should level the retainer
> strip and thus the finisher
>
> Sully
> 77 eleganza 2
> Seattle
>

>

> >> I was sent this by another GMCer a few years back.
> >>
> >> http://www.nudo.com/p_vinyl_trim.php?crumb=%3Ca+href%3D%
> > 27l_extrusions_trims.php%27%3EExtrusions/Trims%3C/a%3E
> >>
> >> I used V 47 when I redid my headliner with FRP panels. Depending on
> > the thickness of your panels this may work, Its a very nice installation,
> >> and by golly when the cap is pushed into the retainer its not going
> > anywhere for a long time. No exposed screws or heads, and a nice clean
> > finish
> >> over every seam.
> >
> >
> > This looks nice and clean, any chance you have some photos prior to the
> > cap being inserted into the retainer? I'm trying to visualize how the
> > retainer
> > works, does it hold the liner in place?
> >
> > I will probably need to do a headliner replace and am looking for ideas,
> > oem look as well as creative new options. Please forward photos or videos,
> > all input is welcomed and appreciated.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mike
> >
> >
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Hi Sully, which Nudo set-up did you use, do you have any photos you can share which shows the various panel thickness used?
Thanks,
Mike
 
Mike,

I have not finalized my panel choices let alone completed any installation
yet. I will update the photo site with pics once I have the headliner and
walls completed(hopefully by early November). I went back and forth between
different offerings to the extent that I cannot remember for certain the
part number I purchased. I will dig up the info and post back.

Sully
77 eleganza 2
Seattle

> > I did go with the nudo trim. They have a few options which will work but
> > after talking with a rep decided the safest option for varying thickness
> of
> > panels was to use the surface mounted retainer vs a retainer which is
> > mounted under the trim panel. The rep stated that if the panels were
> > mounted too close to the retaining groove it may not allow proper
> retention
> > of the finisher. The other potential issue with the sandwich type
> approach
> > is that if the panels used are too thin the finisher may not sit flush
> and
> > if the panels are too thick the finisher may not snap in at all. Since I
> > will be using a variety of panel types I went with the surface mount
> > retainer which is very similar to the oe. The retainer for the finisher
> > mounts on top of the panels and then the finisher snaps into place and
> > covers the retainer and panel fasteners. For joints at varying panel
> > types/thickness a shim under the thinner panel should level the retainer
> > strip and thus the finisher
> >
> > Sully
> > 77 eleganza 2
> > Seattle
> >

> >

> > >> I was sent this by another GMCer a few years back.
> > >>
> > >> http://www.nudo.com/p_vinyl_trim.php?crumb=%3Ca+href%3D%
> > > 27l_extrusions_trims.php%27%3EExtrusions/Trims%3C/a%3E
> > >>
> > >> I used V 47 when I redid my headliner with FRP panels. Depending on
> > > the thickness of your panels this may work, Its a very nice
> installation,
> > >> and by golly when the cap is pushed into the retainer its not going
> > > anywhere for a long time. No exposed screws or heads, and a nice
> clean
> > > finish
> > >> over every seam.
> > >
> > >
> > > This looks nice and clean, any chance you have some photos prior to
> the
> > > cap being inserted into the retainer? I'm trying to visualize how the
> > > retainer
> > > works, does it hold the liner in place?
> > >
> > > I will probably need to do a headliner replace and am looking for
> ideas,
> > > oem look as well as creative new options. Please forward photos or
> videos,
> > > all input is welcomed and appreciated.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
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>
> Hi Sully, which Nudo set-up did you use, do you have any photos you can
> share which shows the various panel thickness used?
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
>
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The profile I ended up on is the V29 on the chart earlier in this thread.

Sully
77 royals
Seattle

> Mike,
>
> I have not finalized my panel choices let alone completed any installation
> yet. I will update the photo site with pics once I have the headliner and
> walls completed(hopefully by early November). I went back and forth between
> different offerings to the extent that I cannot remember for certain the
> part number I purchased. I will dig up the info and post back.
>
> Sully
> 77 eleganza 2
> Seattle
>
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016, Mike

>> > I did go with the nudo trim. They have a few options which will work but
>> > after talking with a rep decided the safest option for varying
>> thickness of
>> > panels was to use the surface mounted retainer vs a retainer which is
>> > mounted under the trim panel. The rep stated that if the panels were
>> > mounted too close to the retaining groove it may not allow proper
>> retention
>> > of the finisher. The other potential issue with the sandwich type
>> approach
>> > is that if the panels used are too thin the finisher may not sit flush
>> and
>> > if the panels are too thick the finisher may not snap in at all. Since I
>> > will be using a variety of panel types I went with the surface mount
>> > retainer which is very similar to the oe. The retainer for the finisher
>> > mounts on top of the panels and then the finisher snaps into place and
>> > covers the retainer and panel fasteners. For joints at varying panel
>> > types/thickness a shim under the thinner panel should level the retainer
>> > strip and thus the finisher
>> >
>> > Sully
>> > 77 eleganza 2
>> > Seattle
>> >

>> >

>> > >> I was sent this by another GMCer a few years back.
>> > >>
>> > >> http://www.nudo.com/p_vinyl_trim.php?crumb=%3Ca+href%3D%
>> > > 27l_extrusions_trims.php%27%3EExtrusions/Trims%3C/a%3E
>> > >>
>> > >> I used V 47 when I redid my headliner with FRP panels. Depending
>> on
>> > > the thickness of your panels this may work, Its a very nice
>> installation,
>> > >> and by golly when the cap is pushed into the retainer its not going
>> > > anywhere for a long time. No exposed screws or heads, and a nice
>> clean
>> > > finish
>> > >> over every seam.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > This looks nice and clean, any chance you have some photos prior to
>> the
>> > > cap being inserted into the retainer? I'm trying to visualize how the
>> > > retainer
>> > > works, does it hold the liner in place?
>> > >
>> > > I will probably need to do a headliner replace and am looking for
>> ideas,
>> > > oem look as well as creative new options. Please forward photos or
>> videos,
>> > > all input is welcomed and appreciated.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Mike
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > GMCnet mailing list
>> > > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>> > > http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>> > >
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>>
>>
>> Hi Sully, which Nudo set-up did you use, do you have any photos you can
>> share which shows the various panel thickness used?
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>>
>>
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>>
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