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frank folkmann

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The total for the group purchase now stands at 29 sets. Orders for the
first shipment can still be placed till the 16th of the month. Call Craig
at 1-800-522-78291. The DEAL a set of air bags with aluminium cones
shipping included for $324.57. This will be the last post.
Frank SW Indiana
Home Of
Toyota TUNDRA
 
Frank, Please repost Craig's phone number. Got one too many digits in the
one below and couldn't connect. I need bags.
Thanks
Dick 75 PB in Atlanta

>The total for the group purchase now stands at 29 sets. Orders for the
>first shipment can still be placed till the 16th of the month. Call Craig
>at 1-800-522-78291. The DEAL a set of air bags with aluminium cones
>shipping included for $324.57. This will be the last post.
>Frank SW Indiana
> Home Of
>Toyota TUNDRA
>
 
Sorry 1-800-522-7291

>Frank, Please repost Craig's phone number. Got one too many digits in the
>one below and couldn't connect. I need bags.
>Thanks
>Dick 75 PB in Atlanta
>

>>The total for the group purchase now stands at 29 sets. Orders for the
>>first shipment can still be placed till the 16th of the month. Call Craig
>>at 1-800-522-78291. The DEAL a set of air bags with aluminium cones
>>shipping included for $324.57. This will be the last post.
>>Frank SW Indiana
>> Home Of
>>Toyota TUNDRA
>>
>
 
Frank, Got ahold of Craig. Ordered bags & cones. Thanks for the legwork,
dude. We're up to 30 orders.
Thanks
Dick 75 PB in Atlanta

>Sorry I posted a wrong #. The correct one is Craig at 1-800-522-7291.
>
 
In my case, it was a no-brainer: After 20 years, the things cracked and
would no longer hold air. Dick 75 PB in Atlanta
PS: Here's Frank's post on the group purchase. Care to make it 31? :-)
This is a very good deal for Firestone original replacements and ALUMINUM
cones. MAKE SURE YOU SPEAK ONLY TO CRAIG.

The total for the group purchase now stands at 29 sets. Orders for the
first shipment can still be placed till the 16th of the month. Call Craig
at 1-800-522-7291. The DEAL a set of air bags with aluminium cones
shipping included for $324.57. This will be the last post.
Frank SW Indiana
Home Of
Toyota TUNDRA

>Hi Dick......
>I've been off the net for a couple of weeks and I probably missed something
>about the air bags. How do you know when to replace the bags? Thanks, Don
>
 
Netters.
The discussion I had with JANICE at Firestone clearly made me understand
that we where purchasing a pair. My question to her was "Will the
distributor be able to sell a pair of air bags for $324.00. She assured me
that his profit would not be big but would make some on the sale. Craig at
Arrow was also given a set price. Firestone is now trying to say that a set
is one air bag with cones. I do not buy this explanation as we specifically
used the part number for the bag with the cones. Lets all be patient for a
while as we try and rectify this misunderstanding. I also do not want one
air bag for $324.00.
Frank SW Indiana
Home Of
Toyota TUNDRA
 
Got my air bag today---I thought this was for two--324.57
Cinnabar probably would have been cheaper!

Uh oh! You mean it wasn't for two? I sure hope someone in shipping
screwed up on your order! I also had assumed it was for a pair.
Steve Ferguson
San Diego, CA
 
This is an interesting development. My Dad manufactured semitrailer for
years and many of his air suspensions had firestone air bags. He also
owns a GMC. Thru some of his contacts he obtained a quote for an airbag
without cones of $ 119 . He was quoted on one bag so there could have
been no mix-up on the "set" thing. After the order was placed for two
bags his distributor friend subsequently received a phone call saying
that Firestone had made an error and as I remember it the " correct
price " should have been about twice what he had been quoted. I don't
believe there was any mix-up at all . I think some of those companies
who are selling us bags were able to influence Firestone to stop these
purchases. This all happened about same time the group purchase was
being worked up. As a mater of fact he first planned to participate in
the group purchase but the delivery time frame would not work for him.
If in fact there is a written or E-mail quote, then they are legally
bound to deliver at the quoted price. They know however, that in this
case it will not be worth the effort required to contest their action.

Good Luck.
Hugh Fellows
 
Hugh...

Re:
>I don't believe there was any mix-up at all . I think some of those
>companies who are selling us bags were able to influence Firestone
>to stop these purchases.

If this is true, and it sounds to me like it could be basically what happened,
then it is the only explanation that has made sense in a long time on this
saga.

If this is true, it is highly illegal and much easier to prove than what the
Justice Department is struggling with, at the moment with Bill Gates et al.
The fact that it happened twice at about the same time, with and without
the cones / sets defense, eliminates the dumbkoff / intern defense. This does
happen even today, speaking as an employee of Corning Glass who had to
carry a copy of a consent decree, around in my briefcase as a reminder.

Right about now, the Justice department is looking for something, anything
they can do to justify their existence, and if I were a vendor, this is the sort
of thing I would stay out of no matter how many I had in inventory. When I
heard Cinnabar's price was $250 (or a Keystone markup) or something like that, I
knew the oooopps we were talking twice what we told you, sounded too phony for
words.

Thanks Hugh...

Regards,
John
 
>RE: Air Bag Pickup......Day #2 passed, no brown truck stopped.
>Will try again today. Steve Ferguson San Diego

If this goes to the mattresses There is a little known or used clause
in the visa and master charge agreements that we all sign, that requires
the credit card company to take the version of events offered by the
vendor as opposed to the consumer. This is used rarely, but in cases
(or parts of cases) where there is not written or physical evidence to
the contrary, the vendors unsupported claim beats your unsupported
claim!

You only hear about that clause if both sides stonewall (it's in there so
the credit card company doesn't get left holding the bag). I mention
this only because it's easy to lose in this game if you are too trusting
and don't keep unambiguous receipts and don't write at least the first
dispute letter. Usually the vendor charges this sort of thing off to
learning 'the hard way' but sometimes if the numbers get big enough,
their lawyer gets involved and things escalate.

Regards,
John Glacier 74

Not offering legal advise, just sharing personal experience...
 
>...which is why I ordered these things via a WRITTEN FAXED order.
> I sense that Arrow knows those of us who did so have them by the
> short ones.

I do believe you are right. I wondered why you got two and others got
only one. I think I just learned a thing or two from you... did your faxed
order say two for $3xx.xx? If so, they can't claim it was your
misunderstanding of what their representative said over the phone. They
obviously read your order quantity and ignored your order price. SOooo

Regards,
John
 
...which is why I ordered these things via a WRITTEN FAXED order. I sense
that Arrow knows those of us who did so have them by the short ones.

>>RE: Air Bag Pickup......Day #2 passed, no brown truck stopped.
>>Will try again today. Steve Ferguson San Diego
>
>If this goes to the mattresses There is a little known or used clause
>in the visa and master charge agreements that we all sign, that requires
>the credit card company to take the version of events offered by the
>vendor as opposed to the consumer. This is used rarely, but in cases
>(or parts of cases) where there is not written or physical evidence to
>the contrary, the vendors unsupported claim beats your unsupported
>claim!
>
>You only hear about that clause if both sides stonewall (it's in there so
>the credit card company doesn't get left holding the bag). I mention
>this only because it's easy to lose in this game if you are too trusting
>and don't keep unambiguous receipts and don't write at least the first
>dispute letter. Usually the vendor charges this sort of thing off to
>learning 'the hard way' but sometimes if the numbers get big enough,
>their lawyer gets involved and things escalate.
>
>Regards,
>John Glacier 74
>
>Not offering legal advise, just sharing personal experience...
>
>
 
Yep! But still waitin' for the big brown truck...
Dick in Atlanta

>>...which is why I ordered these things via a WRITTEN FAXED order.
>> I sense that Arrow knows those of us who did so have them by the
>> short ones.
>
>I do believe you are right. I wondered why you got two and others got
>only one. I think I just learned a thing or two from you... did your faxed
>order say two for $3xx.xx? If so, they can't claim it was your
> misunderstanding of what their representative said over the phone. They
>obviously read your order quantity and ignored your order price. SOooo
>
>Regards,
>John
>
>
>
 
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