GMCMH Curb Weights

[Deb]

I see the manual states the LP & water tanks as empty, but no reference to the Onan. Is the Onan considered standard or an optional accessory? I
have a '77 Kingsley, 403. Before I head off to try to get the coach weighed at our 'local' (40 miles away ) scale, I thought I would check on that
first. If it's in the manual, I missed it, sorry
--
Deb McWade
Logan Lake, BC, CAN
"Li'l Sister"
'77 Kingsley, 403, EBL EFI;
TZE167V101404
It's Bigger on the Inside!

 

[Rich Kinas]

The Onan generator was a Regular Production Options "KNC" and an expensive
one at that, around $2,000 so a GMC could be ordered without it. However
the Vehicle Identification Plate should show the "as manufactured" Gross
vehicle weight. I'm going to check ours tonight..ours did come with the 6K
Onan

Rich

On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 2:48 PM Deb McWade via Gmclist <

> I see the manual states the LP & water tanks as empty, but no reference to
> the Onan. Is the Onan considered standard or an optional accessory? I
> have a '77 Kingsley, 403. Before I head off to try to get the coach
> weighed at our 'local' (40 miles away ) scale, I thought I would check
> on that
> first. If it's in the manual, I missed it, sorry
> --
> Deb McWade
> Logan Lake, BC, CAN
> "Li'l Sister"
> '77 Kingsley, 403, EBL EFI;
> TZE167V101404
> It's Bigger on the Inside!
>
>
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[Deb]

Hi Rich. My VIN plate shows the max weight - total, front & back just as stated in the manual - 11,700, 4200 & 7500 for the vehicle as manufactured.
But it doesn't give the curb weights. (too bad. that would make life easier) I guess I will have to head down the mountain to the weigh scales
next spring and find out what that back end really weighs, L&R, without any water in the tanks. When you only have 700 pounds cargo load to play with
back there, it makes a difference if the Onan was included in the curb weight or not. Especially if I'm considering putting a scooter back there on a
rack.
--
Deb McWade
Logan Lake, BC, CAN
"Li'l Sister"
'77 Kingsley, 403, EBL EFI;
TZE167V101404
It's Bigger on the Inside!

 

[Rich Kinas]

So my 76 Elaganza with 6K gen shows the Gross Vehicle Weight at 11700 (4200 front axle, and 7500 rear axle) my coach is #2323 for 1976. This is
exactly the same as shown in my 1976 Operating Manual. The Operating manual shows a curb weight of 3700 for the front allowing for an additional
500lbs for people and cargo for a total 4200, and 6,850 curb weight for the rear with 650 for passengers and cargo. Curb weight should be the entire
coach with generator, fuel full tanks etc, since it according to GMC was "The vehicle are designed to provide satisfactory service if the vehicle is
not loaded in excess of the Gross Vehicle Weight...the questions is was did GMC mean by "satisfactory service" (gas milage, mean time between
failures, tire separation, I just had to throw that in...).

Additionally on page 9 of my Owners manual it states under "Trailer Hauling" the maximum loaded trailer weight which you can pull with you vehicle
depends on what special equipment has been installed. GMC does not recommend towing any trailer OVER 1,000 POUNDS GROSS TRAILER WEIGHT." "The
allowable passenger and cargo load (GVW) of this vehicle is reduced by an amount equal to the trailer tongue load on the trailer hitch."

Rich
--
Rich Kinas
1976 Elaganza II
Orlando, FL

 

[Deb]

Hi Rich. Curb weight includes fuel and coolant and empty LP and water tanks. (Page 1 of Operating Manual.) There is no mention of a generator so that
was why I was wondering if it was considered standard or optional equipment. If standard, it would be included in the rear curb weight of 6800 lb. If
optional, it would end up as part of the allowable rear cargo weight of 700 lb. Not sure but I think the Onan weighs in somewhere in the 400 lb
ballpark(?). Thats more than half of the allowable cargo weight. Add some water and waste in the tanks, and a full propane tank, and you get pretty
close to the max allowable weight.

I have a 250 lb scooter that would be carried on a rack (not towed). You can see why I was curious about whether the weight of the Onan is already
included in the curb weight. Thats a 400 lb variable in available cargo capacity.
--
Deb McWade
Logan Lake, BC, CAN
"Li'l Sister"
'77 Kingsley, 403, EBL EFI;
TZE167V101404
It's Bigger on the Inside!