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Planning to add digi-panel to my GMC and want to know which trans cooling line is better, in or out. Jim seems to recommend the in line and the
instruction recommend the out line.
So which line do most of you use? Any one got video or pictures of installing the panel in general or the sensors in particular.

Pete

> Keep in mind that what is important is to know the temp of the fluid being
> pumped into the trans.
> Should you want to monitor the out temp, it will be very high when a load
> is placed.
>

>

> >> Here is what I did. This pic and the next two tell my story. Been this
> > way for 13 yrs. No issues.
> >>
> >> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/transmission-install/p3851.html
> >>
> >> JWID
> >
> > OH, BTW, I put the sensor in the front right corner of the pan because
> > that is where the most clearance is. Can't pick just any spot. The sensor
> > will interfere with the valve body, so look carefully before you drill.
> > --
> > Larry
> > 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
> > Menomonie, WI.
> >
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Cary, NC

1978 Center Kitchen Royale.
 
Since the in line tells you the temperature after it is cooled I don’t think that tells you much.
The out line, however, will tell you if the transmission is overheating.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

>
> Planning to add digi-panel to my GMC and want to know which trans cooling line is better, in or out. Jim seems to recommend the in line and the
> instruction recommend the out line.
> So which line do most of you use? Any one got video or pictures of installing the panel in general or the sensors in particular.
>
> Pete
>
>
>
>

>> Keep in mind that what is important is to know the temp of the fluid being
>> pumped into the trans.
>> Should you want to monitor the out temp, it will be very high when a load
>> is placed.
>>

>>

>>>> Here is what I did. This pic and the next two tell my story. Been this
>>> way for 13 yrs. No issues.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/transmission-install/p3851.html
>>>>
>>>> JWID
>>>
>>> OH, BTW, I put the sensor in the front right corner of the pan because
>>> that is where the most clearance is. Can't pick just any spot. The sensor
>>> will interfere with the valve body, so look carefully before you drill.
>>> --
>>> Larry
>>> 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
>>> Menomonie, WI.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Kanomata
>> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
>> jimk
>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
>> 1-800-752-7502
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>
>
> --
> Cary, NC
>
> 1978 Center Kitchen Royale.
>
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Pete,

At one time or another, I've monitored In, Out, and In-Pan. They all do
read differently, as you'd expect. Now, I monitor only In-Pan. If you
read the Chevrolet P-30 Chassis Owner's Manual (available at bdub.net),
there's an appendix dedicated to automatic transmissions, including cooler
and filter installation recommendations, and quite a good discussion of ATF
temperatures, including a table of predicted ATF Service Life vs Average
Temperature IN THE PAN. That's enough to satisfy me that the important
temperature is In-Pan.

Ken H.

> Planning to add digi-panel to my GMC and want to know which trans cooling
> line is better, in or out. Jim seems to recommend the in line and the
> instruction recommend the out line.
> So which line do most of you use? Any one got video or pictures of
> installing the panel in general or the sensors in particular.
>
> Pete
>
>
>
>

> > Keep in mind that what is important is to know the temp of the fluid
> being
> > pumped into the trans.
> > Should you want to monitor the out temp, it will be very high when a load
> > is placed.
> >

> >

> > >> Here is what I did. This pic and the next two tell my story. Been
> this
> > > way for 13 yrs. No issues.
> > >>
> > >> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/transmission-install/p3851.html
> > >>
> > >> JWID
> > >
> > > OH, BTW, I put the sensor in the front right corner of the pan because
> > > that is where the most clearance is. Can't pick just any spot. The
> sensor
> > > will interfere with the valve body, so look carefully before you
> drill.
> > > --
> > > Larry
> > > 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
> > > Menomonie, WI.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > GMCnet mailing list
> > > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jim Kanomata
> > Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
> > jimk
> > http://www.appliedgmc.com
> > 1-800-752-7502
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
> --
> Cary, NC
>
> 1978 Center Kitchen Royale.
>
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Most transmission techs will tell you that what is important is the
temperature of the fluid that is picked up by the transmission and run
through it.
Pan temp is what I recommend.
We have found that the Ragusa Al.pan not only carries more fluid, but the
cooling fins in both inside and outside does very good job of dissipating
the heat.

> Since the in line tells you the temperature after it is cooled I don’t
> think that tells you much.
> The out line, however, will tell you if the transmission is overheating.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
>

> >
> > Planning to add digi-panel to my GMC and want to know which trans
> cooling line is better, in or out. Jim seems to recommend the in line
> and the
> > instruction recommend the out line.
> > So which line do most of you use? Any one got video or pictures of
> installing the panel in general or the sensors in particular.
> >
> > Pete
> >
> >
> >
> >

> >> Keep in mind that what is important is to know the temp of the fluid
> being
> >> pumped into the trans.
> >> Should you want to monitor the out temp, it will be very high when a
> load
> >> is placed.
> >>

> >>

> >>>> Here is what I did. This pic and the next two tell my story. Been
> this
> >>> way for 13 yrs. No issues.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/transmission-install/p3851.html
> >>>>
> >>>> JWID
> >>>
> >>> OH, BTW, I put the sensor in the front right corner of the pan because
> >>> that is where the most clearance is. Can't pick just any spot. The
> sensor
> >>> will interfere with the valve body, so look carefully before you drill.
> >>> --
> >>> Larry
> >>> 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
> >>> Menomonie, WI.
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> GMCnet mailing list
> >>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jim Kanomata
> >> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
> >> jimk
> >> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> >> 1-800-752-7502
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Cary, NC
> >
> > 1978 Center Kitchen Royale.
> >
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--
Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
 
I agree with Jim on this. My Mac dash has a separate transmission gauge which has a probe in my Ragusa pan that tell the oil temp in the pan.

By the way, my Ragusa pan has never weeped fluid.

Emery Stora

>
> Most transmission techs will tell you that what is important is the
> temperature of the fluid that is picked up by the transmission and run
> through it.
> Pan temp is what I recommend.
> We have found that the Ragusa Al.pan not only carries more fluid, but the
> cooling fins in both inside and outside does very good job of dissipating
> the heat.
>
>

>>
>> Since the in line tells you the temperature after it is cooled I don’t
>> think that tells you much.
>> The out line, however, will tell you if the transmission is overheating.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick, CO
>>

>>>
>>> Planning to add digi-panel to my GMC and want to know which trans
>> cooling line is better, in or out. Jim seems to recommend the in line
>> and the
>>> instruction recommend the out line.
>>> So which line do most of you use? Any one got video or pictures of
>> installing the panel in general or the sensors in particular.
>>>
>>> Pete
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>>> Keep in mind that what is important is to know the temp of the fluid
>> being
>>>> pumped into the trans.
>>>> Should you want to monitor the out temp, it will be very high when a
>> load
>>>> is placed.
>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> Here is what I did. This pic and the next two tell my story. Been
>> this
>>>>> way for 13 yrs. No issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/transmission-install/p3851.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JWID
>>>>>
>>>>> OH, BTW, I put the sensor in the front right corner of the pan because
>>>>> that is where the most clearance is. Can't pick just any spot. The
>> sensor
>>>>> will interfere with the valve body, so look carefully before you drill.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Larry
>>>>> 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
>>>>> Menomonie, WI.
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>>>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jim Kanomata
>>>> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
>>>> jimk
>>>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
>>>> 1-800-752-7502
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> GMCnet mailing list
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cary, NC
>>>
>>> 1978 Center Kitchen Royale.
>>>
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>>
>>
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>
>
>
> --
> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
> jimk
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> 1-800-752-7502
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Well I have a Ragusa pan on mine thanks to a PO, it doesn't have any obvious leaks either, can I simply place the sensor under one of the mounting
bolts?

Pete
--
Cary, NC

1978 Center Kitchen Royale.
 
DigiPanel are the easiest gages to attach without needing any adapters. The
feature that customers love the warning buzz when the danger levels are
almost reached.
Few had a leaking oil hose and lost oil pressure and the buzzer went off at
5-15 psi and they shut off the engine befor any damage was done.

> Well I have a Ragusa pan on mine thanks to a PO, it doesn't have any
> obvious leaks either, can I simply place the sensor under one of the
> mounting
> bolts?
>
>
> Pete
> --
> Cary, NC
>
> 1978 Center Kitchen Royale.
>
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Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
 
Jim,

The "standad" Digi-Panel must use the oem oil pressure sender, Art manufactured a unit that used a separate (stand alone) oil
pressure sender.

Can you have one like that made?

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808


-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Jim Kanomata
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:07 PM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gauges - digi-panel trans sensor

DigiPanel are the easiest gages to attach without needing any adapters. The feature that customers love the most is the warning buzz
when the danger levels are almost reached. Few had a leaking oil hose and lost oil pressure and the buzzer went off at 5-15 psi and
they shut off the engine befor any damage was done.

Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
 
As long as we can supply the sensor so we can be sure the value of the
sensor matches for accuracy.
There will be additional labor charge around $ 35 labor plus sensor.

On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Rob Mueller
wrote:

> Jim,
>
> The "standad" Digi-Panel must use the oem oil pressure sender, Art
> manufactured a unit that used a separate (stand alone) oil
> pressure sender.
>
> Can you have one like that made?
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Jim
> Kanomata
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:07 PM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gauges - digi-panel trans sensor
>
> DigiPanel are the easiest gages to attach without needing any adapters.
> The feature that customers love the most is the warning buzz
> when the danger levels are almost reached. Few had a leaking oil hose and
> lost oil pressure and the buzzer went off at 5-15 psi and
> they shut off the engine befor any damage was done.
>
> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
> jimk
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> 1-800-752-7502
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>

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Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
 
Jim,

Thanks!

I will contact you off net with shipping and payment details.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808

-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Jim Kanomata
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:56 PM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gauges - digi-panel trans sensor

As long as we can supply the sensor so we can be sure the value of the
sensor matches for accuracy.
There will be additional labor charge around $ 35 labor plus sensor.

On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Rob Mueller
wrote:

> Jim,
>
> The "standad" Digi-Panel must use the oem oil pressure sender, Art
> manufactured a unit that used a separate (stand alone) oil
> pressure sender.
>
> Can you have one like that made?
>
> Regards,
> Rob
>
Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
 
What's the advantage in doing it that way?

Pete

> Jim,
>
> The "standad" Digi-Panel must use the oem oil pressure sender, Art manufactured a unit that used a separate (stand alone) oil
> pressure sender.
>
> Can you have one like that made?
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Jim Kanomata
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:07 PM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gauges - digi-panel trans sensor
>
> DigiPanel are the easiest gages to attach without needing any adapters. The feature that customers love the most is the warning buzz
> when the danger levels are almost reached. Few had a leaking oil hose and lost oil pressure and the buzzer went off at 5-15 psi and
> they shut off the engine befor any damage was done.
>
> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
> jimk
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> 1-800-752-7502
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org

--
Cary, NC

1978 Center Kitchen Royale.
 
Redundancy - It's not tied into the GMC instruments.

In my opinion the best gauges are direct reading mechanical gauges. For example an oil pressure gauge that has a line filled with
oil that connects the engine oil supply system to a gauge with a Bourdon tube.

Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/y7eoqsgs

Full URL:

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p%3A%2F%2Fwww.instrumentationtoday.com%2Fbourdon-tube%2F2011%2F09%2F&psig=AFQjCNEOfh2v5TrtUI5t6UKF5i_2ryItYw&ust=1506733065849287

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808


-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Pete Smith
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:48 PM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gauges - digi-panel trans sensor

What's the advantage in doing it that way?

Pete
 
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