Fuel Tanks

ree.eric

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I am swapping tanks from an empty GMC to one with an interior. I redid the tanks about 12 years ago with POR15 and rebuilt the gauges. There is a
nipple 3/8" about 10" from the filler and level with it an the side of the rear tank. The tank I took out had it plugged. Where does it go to?
Also the front tank has no vent tube to the fuel separator, it has been wielded over. Should I T off the vent line (to the fuel filler) so there is a
path to the fuel separator in the event that the rear is low with full tanks and the rear fuel separator hose is blocked with fuel?
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Eric & Ree '74 ex-Sequoia + '75 Eleganza Alexandria, Ontario, Canada
 
My take on in-tank mounted fuel pumps is this:
Ethanol laced fuel changes the equation quite a bit, relative to
longevity of electric pumps. Corrosion is a big factor when the system does
not continuously receive a fresh supply of fuel, and I personally do not
think that the positive points of having a pump mounted submerged in the
stuff outweighs the negative points of the effects of alcohol on the pumps.
I think that mounting the pumps on the frame as close as possible to the
tank outlets, and protected with in-line filters between the tank and pump,
as well as objects that might be thrown up from the road is the best long
term solution. The accumulator or surge tank downstream from the pumps is a
very good idea as well. The same goes for the tank switching valve. It is a
problem looking for a time and place to happen. The original valves fail
when subjected to alcohol in the fuel, as do the diaphrams in the original
equipment mechanical fuel pumps. Ken Burton makes valid sense with regards
to not controlling electric pumps with relays. They frequently have been
known to stick closed (allowing electricity to flow) when you want them to
open or disconnect the flow of electricity. Better to use good fuse
protection and large enough conductors and switches to operate the pumps
without relays in the circuits. A low/no oil pressure switch wired into the
pump circuits is also a good idea.
If you do decide to mount your pumps submerged in the fuel tanks, at
least provide access hatches to your tanks from above. You are probably
going to need them, in my experience.
But, as Jim Bounds often says, "Hey, this is America! It's your money,
spend it how you see fit"
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC ROYALE 403

> I am swapping tanks from an empty GMC to one with an interior. I redid the
> tanks about 12 years ago with POR15 and rebuilt the gauges. There is a
> nipple 3/8" about 10" from the filler and level with it an the side of the
> rear tank. The tank I took out had it plugged. Where does it go to?
> Also the front tank has no vent tube to the fuel separator, it has been
> wielded over. Should I T off the vent line (to the fuel filler) so there is
> a
> path to the fuel separator in the event that the rear is low with full
> tanks and the rear fuel separator hose is blocked with fuel?
> --
> Eric & Ree '74 ex-Sequoia + '75 Eleganza Alexandria, Ontario,
> Canada
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> There is a nipple 3/8" about 10" from the filler and level with it an the side of the rear tank. The tank I took out had it plugged. Where does it
> go to?
> Also the front tank has no vent tube to the fuel separator, it has been wielded over. Should I T off the vent line (to the fuel filler) so there
> is a path to the fuel separator in the event that the rear is low with full tanks and the rear fuel separator hose is blocked with fuel?

The nipple was used to connect the earliest version of the fuel/vapor separator to the tank. That system appears to have been changed to the current
one early in '73 production. Here is a picture of that separator.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/fuel-tank-r-26amp-3b-r/p13484.html

Note this device has one more hose connection than the normal one. I believe that is a drain back into the tank through that nipple. That nipple,
unused, was present long after the separator was changed t the newer version.

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Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
 
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Nelson Wright

Orlando Fl.


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>> There is a nipple 3/8" about 10" from the filler and level with it an the side of the rear tank. The tank I took out had it plugged. Where does it
>> go to?
That might be for the supply line to the generator.
HTH
Nelson Wright
>>
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> The nipple was used to connect the earliest version of the fuel/vapor separator to the tank. That system appears to have been changed to the
> current one early in '73 production. Here is a picture of that separator.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/fuel-tank-r-26amp-3b-r/p13484.html
>
> Note this device has one more hose connection than the normal one. I believe that is a drain back into the tank through that nipple. That
> nipple, unused, was present long after the separator was changed t the newer version.

Well damn, that explains a lot.
Matt
--
Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
 
Thanks Steve, I'll leave it plugged. Eric
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Eric & Ree '74 ex-Sequoia + '75 Eleganza Alexandria, Ontario, Canada
 
> Thanks Steve, I'll leave it plugged. Eric

It could be used for a fuel return if you ever install a return.

In any event replace that little piece of rubber hose with the new ethanol rated type.

Side note:
I did not use this for my fuel return line. Why not? I have two GMC's. The MH and the parts transmode. On both of these the front, aux, tank was
badly rusted internally. The rear main tank was in good condition. I chose to install a return line and drop tube in the sender/pickup on the aux
tank. I decided that I wanted continuous fuel flow through the aux tank. JWID.

Coachman would have been better off connecting the Onan on that side nipple if it was still there.
--
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI