Free Radiatior internal camera inspection, with radiator/cap pressure test.

[Bob Dunahugh]

Subject line more appropriate. Looking into doing this at the GMCMI=
Tucson Rally. If this works well. Maybe this could be added to future GMCM=
I rallies, and regional club rallies. I think this is a bigger problem then=
thought. I had mentioned this to Kim this morning. We're not t=
aking anything big apart. Drain fluids onto a pan. Do the camera inspect=
ion. Pressure test radiator, and cap. Put the antifreeze back in. There's j=
ust nothing to dispose of. If owners want to change their antifreeze at t=
he same time. They can bring new antifreeze and distilled water. Then put t=
hat used antifreeze into those then empty containers. Thus nothing to dispo=
se of at the rally site. I can find a place to recycle in the area as neede=
d. Alex might be there to fix steering issue. There have also been weigh in=
s, headlight alignments, and many other tech sessions to make your GMC safe=
r. This internet site is a fantastic GMC info site. And I think that's=
it's major intention. Be very nice if GMCMI rallies with it's tech sessio=
ns, and regional club with their tech sessions be listed here at times. We=
're near the 6 Wheelers. If their rallies were mentioned here. Linda, and I=
would more then likely go. Any input? Bob Dunahugh Pete. That=
's a good idea. The owner could just bring new antifreeze. Flush, and then=
put the new antifreeze in. Have to find out what's the best way to dispose=
the old antifreeze there. We'd also have to have a pre event registration =
list to know what to be prepared for. Bob Dunahugh Mike K. Th=
anks. I think this is more of a problem then is generally thought. I pull h=
igher GVW's more then most. And never had any add on items installed on our=
403 GMC. Radiator inspections on attendees GMC's. Might make for a good t=
ech session at the GMCMI rally in Tucson. Line them up, and start checking =
with my inspection camera. Drain pan, funnel, and the camera. At a cost of=
FREE. Good idea, or not. Any input out there? Bob Dunahugh =
Our first 78 Royale came with a Digi panel. I knew my engine temps=
under all conditions. Then the fire. Bought another 78 Royale. But the Dig=
i panel wasn't being made at that time. Both GMC stock temp gauges read th=
e same. But it didn't take long before I had a feeling that this second Roy=
ale was running hotter. No boil overs. Just didn't feel right. So on our ne=
xt trip. I raise the engine cover several times to check the engine temp s=
ender with an inferred temp reader. Found that this Royale was generally o=
perating about 10 degrees hotter with the stock gauge reading in the normal=
range as compared to our first GMC. Jim at Applied GMC had started produc=
ing the Digi panel. And had them at the GMCMI rally that we were going too.=
Installed the Digi panel at the rally. On the way home the panel also con=
firmed what I thought. So why the running hotter? Checked the thermostat. I=
t was a good operating 180. But I changed to a proper 195. Fan clutch? Ma=
ybe. Well Jim K at Applied started selling a fan clutch that is controlled =
by engine block sensors. I liked the idea that this system is more proactiv=
e in controlling engine heat buildup. Plus I can turn the clutch on for the=
fan by a dash mounted switch when I want. So I bought that fan clutch at t=
he GMCMI rally. I had recently put on an aluminum 307 Olds intake manifold=
. So I knew the engine was clean inside. Did the engine have a car water pu=
mp? Don't know. But even if there's a car pump. That's not the real big pro=
blem. Next I drained the radiator. Put my inspection camera in the radiato=
r. Radiator's my problem. Looked heavily corroded at the crossover tubes. G=
oing to put the radiator from the burned GMC in soon. Probably check/change=
water pump anyway while I'm doing other work in that area. Installing more=
gauges to look at isn't the best idea in my opinion. One. I want to be lo=
oking at the road for safe driving. Two. The Digi panel has gages. But it'=
s audible alarm is your best engine/trans protection. Bob Dunahugh 7=
8 Royale

 

[Ken H.]

Bob,

Now that you mention it, I don't recall enough attention being given here
to the various club events around the country. Why is it that we don't see
here links to the clubs' rally announcements, registration forms, and even
the event schedules? It would certainly be useful to many of us here, and
I'd think beneficial to the clubs. Has there ever been any prohibition of
such postings? I don't recall any.

Let's try it, even though it's too late to matter since the St.Augustine
rally of GMCSS & GMCDL starts next Thursday (we're going Tuesday):
http://gmcss.com/?page_id=517

Ken H.

> ​...
>
> This internet site is a fantastic GMC info site. And I think that's
> it's major intention. Be very nice if GMCMI rallies with it's tech
> sessions, and regional club with their tech sessions be listed here at
> times. We're near the 6 Wheelers. If their rallies were mentioned here.
> Linda, and I would more then likely go. Any input? Bob Dunahugh
>

 

[Jim Hupy]

GMC CASCADERS try to post dates of upcoming rallies months in advance on
our Web site. Gmcers.com. We plan on having a presence at the TUCSON event.
Many Cascaders are also members of other clubs, and it is no easy feat to
schedule rallies that do not conflict with other club events. On large
rallies, the venue's are usually booked years in advance. So, while we like
to accommodate members who still work, sometimes we just cannot work it
out. Does not mean that we can't do it when the schedule allows for it.
Jim Hupy, President, GMC CASCADERS.
Salem, Or

> Bob,
>
> Now that you mention it, I don't recall enough attention being given here
> to the various club events around the country. Why is it that we don't see
> here links to the clubs' rally announcements, registration forms, and even
> the event schedules? It would certainly be useful to many of us here, and
> I'd think beneficial to the clubs. Has there ever been any prohibition of
> such postings? I don't recall any.
>
> Let's try it, even though it's too late to matter since the St.Augustine
> rally of GMCSS & GMCDL starts next Thursday (we're going Tuesday):
> http://gmcss.com/?page_id=517
>
> Ken H.
>

>
> > ​...
> >
> > This internet site is a fantastic GMC info site. And I think that's
> > it's major intention. Be very nice if GMCMI rallies with it's tech
> > sessions, and regional club with their tech sessions be listed here at
> > times. We're near the 6 Wheelers. If their rallies were mentioned here.
> > Linda, and I would more then likely go. Any input? Bob Dunahugh
> >
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>

 

[bdub1]

This has been online for many years, Bob. Ya have to bookmark them for
yourself or use mine at http://bdub.net/GMCLinks.html

http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/

bdub
Everything in it's place ...

-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist On Behalf Of Bob Dunahugh
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 7:28 PM

This internet site is a fantastic GMC info site. And I think that's it's
major intention. Be very nice if GMCMI rallies with it's tech sessions, and
regional club with their tech sessions be listed here at times. We're near
the 6 Wheelers. If their rallies were mentioned here. Linda, and I would
more then likely go. Any input? Bob Dunahugh

 

[Irish Rogue]

> From: Mike Kelley > Date: January 3, 2018 at 8:=
54:56 PM CST > > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Free Radiatior internal camera =
inspection, with radiator/cap pressure test. > > Hey Bob D.: > Congr=
ats on your idea for a "Radiator internal inspection and radiator cap press=
ure test" tech session at our Tucson GMC MI convention in April. I think th=
is is a Gr8 way to assist our GMC community and look forward to getting our=
personal GMC (Dream Machine) checked in this way. > I also agree w/ you =
that the GMC net would be a Gr8 venue for coordinating various GMC club eve=
nts. Having a central location to check various GMC club events would solve=
a big problem. There currently is no way of doing this that I know of. A=
nd being able to quickly and easily coordinate events, locations, dates, et=
c, would be very beneficial to the various clubs and all GMC owners - it ma=
y even encourage more club memberships. I know Billie and I would use it a=
s we travel in our GMC's very often (about 12,000 miles per year) and enjoy=
attending other GMC club functions and meeting new GMC'ers. I am sure the=
re are other GMC'ers who would attend more events if they just knew about t=
hem and it were easy to get the needed info. > Also as President of the G=
MC 6 Wheelers (200 mile radius from Chicago, IL.), I would love to invite y=
ou and your tech session to one of our monthly 3 1/2 day rallies (usually t=
he 3rd week end of each month - May thru Oct. of each year). Who knows how=
many radiators/break downs we could save!!! I know your GMC expertise wou=
ld be greatly appreciated by all in our club. And it would be Gr8 to intro=
duce you and wife Linda to all of our active GMC 6 Wheelers. Thanks again=
for every thing you do for GMC'ers in general, and the whole community! =
Mike/The Corvair a holic > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 3, 2=
018, at 7:28 PM, Bob Dunahugh wrote: >> >> Subj=
ect line more appropriate. >> >> >> Looking into doing this at the =
GMCMI Tucson Rally. If this works well. Maybe this could be added to future=
GMCMI rallies, and regional club rallies. I think this is a bigger problem=
then thought. >> >> I had mentioned this to Kim this morning. We=
're not taking anything big apart. Drain fluids onto a pan. Do the camer=
a inspection. Pressure test radiator, and cap. Put the antifreeze back in. =
There's just nothing to dispose of. If owners want to change their antifr=
eeze at the same time. They can bring new antifreeze and distilled water. T=
hen put that used antifreeze into those then empty containers. Thus nothing=
to dispose of at the rally site. I can find a place to recycle in the area=
as needed. Alex might be there to fix steering issue. There have also been=
weigh ins, headlight alignments, and many other tech sessions to make your=
GMC safer. >> This internet site is a fantastic GMC info site. And I th=
ink that's it's major intention. Be very nice if GMCMI rallies with it's t=
ech sessions, and regional club with their tech sessions be listed here at =
times. We're near the 6 Wheelers. If their rallies were mentioned here. Li=
nda, and I would more then likely go. Any input? Bob Dunahugh >> >> =
>> >> Pete. That's a good idea. The owner could just bring new antifr=
eeze. Flush, and then put the new antifreeze in. Have to find out what's t=
he best way to dispose the old antifreeze there. We'd also have to have a p=
re event registration list to know what to be prepared for. Bob Dunahugh=
>> >> >> >> Mike K. Thanks. I think this is more of a problem =
then is generally thought. I pull higher GVW's more then most. And never ha=
d any add on items installed on our 403 GMC. Radiator inspections on attend=
ees GMC's. Might make for a good tech session at the GMCMI rally in Tucson=
. Line them up, and start checking with my inspection camera. Drain pan, fu=
nnel, and the camera. At a cost of FREE. Good idea, or not. Any input out=
there? Bob Dunahugh >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Our first 78=
Royale came with a Digi panel. I knew my engine temps under all conditions=
. Then the fire. Bought another 78 Royale. But the Digi panel wasn't being =
made at that time. Both GMC stock temp gauges read the same. But it didn't=
take long before I had a feeling that this second Royale was running hotte=
r. No boil overs. Just didn't feel right. So on our next trip. I raise the =
engine cover several times to check the engine temp sender with an inferre=
d temp reader. Found that this Royale was generally operating about 10 deg=
rees hotter with the stock gauge reading in the normal range as compared t=
o our first GMC. Jim at Applied GMC had started producing the Digi panel. A=
nd had them at the GMCMI rally that we were going too. Installed the Digi p=
anel at the rally. On the way home the panel also confirmed what I thought=
. So why the running hotter? Checked the thermostat. It was a good operatin=
g 180. But I changed to a proper 195. Fan clutch? Maybe. Well Jim K at Ap=
plied started selling a fan clutch that is controlled by engine block senso=
rs. I liked the idea that this system is more proactive in controlling engi=
ne heat buildup. Plus I can turn the clutch on for the fan by a dash mounte=
d switch when I want. So I bought that fan clutch at the GMCMI rally. I ha=
d recently put on an aluminum 307 Olds intake manifold. So I knew the engin=
e was clean inside. Did the engine have a car water pump? Don't know. But e=
ven if there's a car pump. That's not the real big problem. Next I drained =
the radiator. Put my inspection camera in the radiator. Radiator's my prob=
lem. Looked heavily corroded at the crossover tubes. Going to put the radia=
tor from the burned GMC in soon. Probably check/change water pump anyway wh=
ile I'm doing other work in that area. Installing more gauges to look at i=
sn't the best idea in my opinion. One. I want to be looking at the road for=
safe driving. Two. The Digi panel has gages. But it's audible alarm is yo=
ur best engine/trans protection. >> >> Bob Dunahugh 78 Royale >> _=
______________________________________________ >> GMCnet mailing list >=
> Unsubscribe or Change List Options: >> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/l=
istinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org

 

[robert mueller]

Bob,

Well done!

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808

-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Bob Dunahugh
Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2018 12:28 PM
To: gmclist
Subject: [GMCnet] Free Radiatior internal camera inspection, with radiator/cap pressure test.

Subject line more appropriate.

Looking into doing this at the GMCMI Tucson Rally. If this works well. Maybe this could be added to future GMCMI rallies, and
regional club rallies. I think this is a bigger problem then thought.

I had mentioned this to Kim this morning. We're not taking anything big apart. Drain fluids onto a pan. Do the camera
inspection. Pressure test radiator, and cap. Put the antifreeze back in. There's just nothing to dispose of. If owners want to
change their antifreeze at the same time. They can bring new antifreeze and distilled water. Then put that used antifreeze into
those then empty containers. Thus nothing to dispose of at the rally site. I can find a place to recycle in the area as needed. Alex
might be there to fix steering issue. There have also been weigh ins, headlight alignments, and many other tech sessions to make
your GMC safer.
This internet site is a fantastic GMC info site. And I think that's it's major intention. Be very nice if GMCMI rallies with
it's tech sessions, and regional club with their tech sessions be listed here at times. We're near the 6 Wheelers. If their rallies
were mentioned here. Linda, and I would more then likely go. Any input? Bob Dunahugh

Pete. That's a good idea. The owner could just bring new antifreeze. Flush, and then put the new antifreeze in. Have to find out
what's the best way to dispose the old antifreeze there. We'd also have to have a pre event registration list to know what to be
prepared for. Bob Dunahugh

Mike K. Thanks. I think this is more of a problem then is generally thought. I pull higher GVW's more then most. And never had any
add on items installed on our 403 GMC. Radiator inspections on attendees GMC's. Might make for a good tech session at the GMCMI
rally in Tucson. Line them up, and start checking with my inspection camera. Drain pan, funnel, and the camera. At a cost of FREE.
Good idea, or not. Any input out there? Bob Dunahugh

 

[robert mueller]

Mike,

FYI

http://www.bdub.net/GMCLinks.html

Scroll down to: GMC Rally Calendar.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808


-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Mike Kelley
Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2018 2:49 PM
To: gmclist
Cc: Billie Kelley
Subject: [GMCnet] Fwd: Free Radiatior internal camera inspection, with radiator/cap pressure test.

I also agree w/ you that the GMC net would be a Gr8 venue for coordinating various GMC club events. Having a central location to
check various GMC club events would solve a big problem. There currently is no way of doing this that I know of.

 

[jeanette]

Gmcmi runs a calendar of meetings n rallies on line - to the extent that clubs will inform Kim of such.

Sent from my iPhone

>
> Mike,
>
> FYI
>
> http://www.bdub.net/GMCLinks.html
>
> Scroll down to: GMC Rally Calendar.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Mike Kelley
> Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2018 2:49 PM
> To: gmclist
> Cc: Billie Kelley
> Subject: [GMCnet] Fwd: Free Radiatior internal camera inspection, with radiator/cap pressure test.
>
> I also agree w/ you that the GMC net would be a Gr8 venue for coordinating various GMC club events. Having a central location to
> check various GMC club events would solve a big problem. There currently is no way of doing this that I know of.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org

 

[Matt Colie]

> This has been online for many years, Bob. Ya have to bookmark them for
> yourself or use mine at http://bdub.net/GMCLinks.html
>
> http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/
>
> bdub
> Everything in it's place ...

If you subscribe to Billy's GMC Google Calendar, you get everything included in the calendar that is in front of your face when you boot the machine
up. Unfortunately, not all chapters keep Bdub in the loop.

Matt
--
Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit

 

[Ken H.]

That's the biggest problem -- folks' failure to update the various places
we MIGHT check. But if we'd make a habit of everyone making sure
schedules, etc., are shared here, we'd all stay better informed easily.

Ken H.
​

 

[Bob Dunahugh]

I As many know that there are places like Face Book, and club sites out =
there to see schedules. I just don't think of searching these things out on=
a general bases. ( Well. I just don't. SORRY ) I'm sure this is a common=
occurrence with those here. All the clubs in the GMC community put on even=
ts in hopes that more will come to enjoy the company of others. The more ex=
posure of up coming event. The more can think of coming. Or if we're going =
to an area in the country. I just won't think of a search. But if a club, o=
r GMCMI just put something out as to an event in different areas here. As =
this site is the only site I ever go to. I'm mainly not interested in what =
color that an owner painted their cabinets. Interesting to some. Just not m=
y thing.That would put these events in my attention focal point. It would g=
et my attention as to a club event that's going to be 20 miles from were we=
'll be. Is there a down side of various club events being promoted here by=
any GMC club? Or cross promo's between clubs. We're not a stag net group b=
y our nature. The only bad promo to me is the one not put out in every venu=
e in the committee. Bob Dunahugh Member Greater Midwest Classic=
s GMCMI _____________________=
___________ From: Bob Dunahugh Sent: Wednesday, =
January 3, 2018 7:28 PM To: gmclist Subject: Free Radia=
tior internal camera inspection, with radiator/cap pressure test. S=
ubject line more appropriate. Looking into doing this at the GMCMI =
Tucson Rally. If this works well. Maybe this could be added to future GMCMI=
rallies, and regional club rallies. I think this is a bigger problem then =
thought. I had mentioned this to Kim this morning. We're not ta=
king anything big apart. Drain fluids onto a pan. Do the camera inspecti=
on. Pressure test radiator, and cap. Put the antifreeze back in. There's ju=
st nothing to dispose of. If owners want to change their antifreeze at th=
e same time. They can bring new antifreeze and distilled water. Then put th=
at used antifreeze into those then empty containers. Thus nothing to dispos=
e of at the rally site. I can find a place to recycle in the area as needed=
. Alex might be there to fix steering issue. There have also been weigh ins=
, headlight alignments, and many other tech sessions to make your GMC safer=
. This internet site is a fantastic GMC info site. And I think that's =
it's major intention. Be very nice if GMCMI rallies with it's tech session=
s, and regional club with their tech sessions be listed here at times. We'=
re near the 6 Wheelers. If their rallies were mentioned here. Linda, and I =
would more then likely go. Any input? Bob Dunahugh Pete. That'=
s a good idea. The owner could just bring new antifreeze. Flush, and then =
put the new antifreeze in. Have to find out what's the best way to dispose =
the old antifreeze there. We'd also have to have a pre event registration l=
ist to know what to be prepared for. Bob Dunahugh Mike K. Tha=
nks. I think this is more of a problem then is generally thought. I pull hi=
gher GVW's more then most. And never had any add on items installed on our =
403 GMC. Radiator inspections on attendees GMC's. Might make for a good te=
ch session at the GMCMI rally in Tucson. Line them up, and start checking w=
ith my inspection camera. Drain pan, funnel, and the camera. At a cost of =
FREE. Good idea, or not. Any input out there? Bob Dunahugh =
Our first 78 Royale came with a Digi panel. I knew my engine temps un=
der all conditions. Then the fire. Bought another 78 Royale. But the Digi p=
anel wasn't being made at that time. Both GMC stock temp gauges read the s=
ame. But it didn't take long before I had a feeling that this second Royale=
was running hotter. No boil overs. Just didn't feel right. So on our next =
trip. I raise the engine cover several times to check the engine temp send=
er with an inferred temp reader. Found that this Royale was generally oper=
ating about 10 degrees hotter with the stock gauge reading in the normal r=
ange as compared to our first GMC. Jim at Applied GMC had started producing=
the Digi panel. And had them at the GMCMI rally that we were going too. In=
stalled the Digi panel at the rally. On the way home the panel also confir=
med what I thought. So why the running hotter? Checked the thermostat. It w=
as a good operating 180. But I changed to a proper 195. Fan clutch? Maybe=
. Well Jim K at Applied started selling a fan clutch that is controlled by =
engine block sensors. I liked the idea that this system is more proactive i=
n controlling engine heat buildup. Plus I can turn the clutch on for the fa=
n by a dash mounted switch when I want. So I bought that fan clutch at the =
GMCMI rally. I had recently put on an aluminum 307 Olds intake manifold. S=
o I knew the engine was clean inside. Did the engine have a car water pump?=
Don't know. But even if there's a car pump. That's not the real big proble=
m. Next I drained the radiator. Put my inspection camera in the radiator. =
Radiator's my problem. Looked heavily corroded at the crossover tubes. Goin=
g to put the radiator from the burned GMC in soon. Probably check/change wa=
ter pump anyway while I'm doing other work in that area. Installing more ga=
uges to look at isn't the best idea in my opinion. One. I want to be looki=
ng at the road for safe driving. Two. The Digi panel has gages. But it's a=
udible alarm is your best engine/trans protection. Bob Dunahugh 78 R=
oyale