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Pros and cons of this organization. I’ve heard some say they do nothing for us in the west, but some say we need to support them. Just looking for
guidance before I mail them a check.
 
Thom,
FMCA provides the Liability insurance for our local clubs and for Western
States and helps lobby
The legislature to treat us fairly.
I have been a member since 1982 and my FMCA # is only 46430

> Pros and cons of this organization. I’ve heard some say they do nothing
> for us in the west, but some say we need to support them. Just looking for
> guidance before I mail them a check.
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Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
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1-800-752-7502
 
I got a free foam beer can insulator and 2 year old Atlas from them one time years ago.

--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
Thom;

The travel insurance alone is worth the price of admission. There are many
advantages to being a member of that club. We don't have as many close by
conventions, but they do as much for us in the West as they do in the East.

Dean Hanson

Avion

Painted Desert
 
I consider the air evacuation coverage the most valuable feature of FMCA
membership. If all the clubs leave that organization, when we resume
travelling, I'll probably take out a similar policy.

Ken H.

> Pros and cons of this organization. I’ve heard some say they do nothing
> for us in the west, but some say we need to support them. Just looking for
> guidance before I mail them a check.
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Just become an officer in a GMC related club, and have a rally or gathering
where there is alcohol present, and ask the venue how much extra they
charge for an event like that. They will demand a one time policy of at
least One Million Dollars for even an overnight event. That policy alone
will cost your chapter more than the FMCA dues for a year. I know
firsthand, I was a president of the GMC Cascaders for several years, and
looked into that cost. Scary deal. You cannot even touch that for the cost
of the dues. More than worth it. To say nothing about the coach rescue
stuff.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

> Thom;
>
> The travel insurance alone is worth the price of admission. There are many
> advantages to being a member of that club. We don't have as many close by
> conventions, but they do as much for us in the West as they do in the
> East.
>
> Dean Hanson
>
> Avion
>
> Painted Desert
>
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> I consider the air evacuation coverage the most valuable feature of FMCA
> membership. If all the clubs leave that organization, when we resume
> travelling, I'll probably take out a similar policy.
>
> Ken H.

The only benefit I can see that might be useful to me is the "evacuation coverage". I hope to never use it. The tire program is not worth it to me. I
tried the cell phone deal and that was a total disaster from the start. I also tried their road service when it was affordable and that turned out to
be a joke when I tried to get a jump start and learned that it was going to take almost a day to get someone to my GMC. Both of the main clubs I am in
(GMCMI and Great Lakers) no longer require FMCA membership so that is not a benefit.

I am paid thru 2/11/2026. After that who knows?

--
Richard
76 Palm Beach
SE Michigan
www.PalmBeachGMC.com


Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water
heaters.
 
Yes, the FMCA Travel Insurance is worth the price of admission. I have used for a tow twice and I still have membership as it is so much cheaper that other policies offered by other providers. You may or may not know that several GMC Clubs have left FMCA including GMCMI and GMCGL. They no longer require their members to be FMCA members to join.

GMCGL now purchases libillity insurance for the directors and officer As for alcohol insurance FMCA does not have Alcohol insurance rider on their policy. I have the complete discussion of the club responsibility and research that was done and then voted by club members which was approved and very similar to GMCMI and was approved by the members of GMCMI. Unfortunately this is not open to non club members and consider internal club business.

J.R. Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
GMCGL Tech Editor
GMC Eastern States Charter Member
GMCMI
78 GMC Buskirk 29.5’ Stretch
75 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan

>
> Thom;
>
> The travel insurance alone is worth the price of admission. There are many
> advantages to being a member of that club. We don't have as many close by
> conventions, but they do as much for us in the West as they do in the East.
>
> Dean Hanson
>
> Avion
>
> Painted Desert
>
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Don’t forget the tire discount program. It saves me about 50% on Michelin’s. You can also use the discount on your personal cars. Discount tire
honors the program.
Scott.
--
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera
installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
 
The GMC Cascaders had a member that went over the handlebars on his ATV and
was unable to drive his Coach. His ATV was damaged as well. FMCA
transported him home, about 600 miles as well as his wife. They paid for
his driver to transport his coach and trailer home as well. And paid his
travel to and from. The benefit alone came to a bit less than $3000.00. You
would have a hard time convincing him or anyone that had had knowledge of
that one event, that FMCA has limited value.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

> Don’t forget the tire discount program. It saves me about 50% on
> Michelin’s. You can also use the discount on your personal cars. Discount
> tire
> honors the program.
> Scott.
> --
> Scott Nutter
> 1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final
> drive, Quad bags, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera
> installed MSD Atomic EFI
> Houston, Texas
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The GMC Heritage Cruisers (New York & Ontario area) also left FMCA last year.
--
Al Hamilton,
76 Eleganza II,
Heart of the 1000 Islands, Ontario
 
> Don’t forget the tire discount program. It saves me about 50% on Michelin’s. You can also use the discount on your personal cars. Discount
> tire honors the program.
> Scott.

Discount Tire prices are cheaper here in Michigan than they are with the FMCA program prices. That was the case last Fall when I bought tires for my
GMC. Must be different in other areas of the country.

--
Richard
76 Palm Beach
SE Michigan
www.PalmBeachGMC.com


Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water
heaters.
 
> The GMC Cascaders had a member that went over the handlebars on his ATV and
> was unable to drive his Coach. His ATV was damaged as well. FMCA
> transported him home, about 600 miles as well as his wife. They paid for
> his driver to transport his coach and trailer home as well. And paid his
> travel to and from. The benefit alone came to a bit less than $3000.00. You
> would have a hard time convincing him or anyone that had had knowledge of
> that one event, that FMCA has limited value.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon

That program, as long as they continue it, might be the only reason I stay in FMCA. I get offers from other organizations, such as AOPA, and their
prices for similar programs are higher than what I paid for extending my membership with FMCA to 2026. THe other FMCA benefits are of limited value
to me. Your mileage may vary.
--
Richard
76 Palm Beach
SE Michigan
www.PalmBeachGMC.com


Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water
heaters.
 
GMCDL also dropped FMCA membership. Last I heard was a GMCSS member poll
in progress on the topic; I haven't heard the results yet.

Ken H.

> Yes, the FMCA Travel Insurance is worth the price of admission. I have
> used for a tow twice and I still have membership as it is so much cheaper
> that other policies offered by other providers. You may or may not know
> that several GMC Clubs have left FMCA including GMCMI and GMCGL. They no
> longer require their members to be FMCA members to join.
>
> GMCGL now purchases libillity insurance for the directors and officer As
> for alcohol insurance FMCA does not have Alcohol insurance rider on their
> policy. I have the complete discussion of the club responsibility and
> research that was done and then voted by club members which was approved
> and very similar to GMCMI and was approved by the members of GMCMI.
> Unfortunately this is not open to non club members and consider internal
> club business.
>
> J.R. Wright
> GMC Great Laker MHC
> GMCGL Tech Editor
> GMC Eastern States Charter Member
> GMCMI
> 78 GMC Buskirk 29.5’ Stretch
> 75 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
> Michigan
>
>

> >
> > Thom;
> >
> > The travel insurance alone is worth the price of admission. There are
> many
> > advantages to being a member of that club. We don't have as many close by
> > conventions, but they do as much for us in the West as they do in the
> East.
> >
> > Dean Hanson
> >
> > Avion
> >
> > Painted Desert
> >
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I was unaware that DL & SS were going thru the process.

JR

>
> GMCDL also dropped FMCA membership. Last I heard was a GMCSS member poll
> in progress on the topic; I haven't heard the results yet.
>
> Ken H.
>
>

>
>> Yes, the FMCA Travel Insurance is worth the price of admission. I have
>> used for a tow twice and I still have membership as it is so much cheaper
>> that other policies offered by other providers. You may or may not know
>> that several GMC Clubs have left FMCA including GMCMI and GMCGL. They no
>> longer require their members to be FMCA members to join.
>>
>> GMCGL now purchases libillity insurance for the directors and officer As
>> for alcohol insurance FMCA does not have Alcohol insurance rider on their
>> policy. I have the complete discussion of the club responsibility and
>> research that was done and then voted by club members which was approved
>> and very similar to GMCMI and was approved by the members of GMCMI.
>> Unfortunately this is not open to non club members and consider internal
>> club business.
>>
>> J.R. Wright
>> GMC Great Laker MHC
>> GMCGL Tech Editor
>> GMC Eastern States Charter Member
>> GMCMI
>> 78 GMC Buskirk 29.5’ Stretch
>> 75 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
>> Michigan
>>
>>

>>>
>>> Thom;
>>>
>>> The travel insurance alone is worth the price of admission. There are
>> many
>>> advantages to being a member of that club. We don't have as many close by
>>> conventions, but they do as much for us in the West as they do in the
>> East.
>>>
>>> Dean Hanson
>>>
>>> Avion
>>>
>>> Painted Desert
>>>
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I believe that all GMC clubs that require members to be FMCA members is because they are 'Chapters' of FMCA and must follow the FMCA Chapter By-Laws.
Once leaving FMCA, a Club would have to adopt their own set of By-Laws.

FCMA D&O insurance also covers Chapters' directors and officers. Are there any other benefits provided by FMCA to Chapters (as opposed to what FMCA
provides to individual members)?
--
Bill Van Vlack
'76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid
November 2015.
 
GMC Classics are no longer a "chapter".
Saguaro Jetset aren't either.
I don't think the Six Wheelers are either.

> GMCDL also dropped FMCA membership. Last I heard was a GMCSS member poll
> in progress on the topic; I haven't heard the results yet.
>
> Ken H.
>
>

>
> > Yes, the FMCA Travel Insurance is worth the price of admission. I have
> > used for a tow twice and I still have membership as it is so much cheaper
> > that other policies offered by other providers. You may or may not know
> > that several GMC Clubs have left FMCA including GMCMI and GMCGL. They no
> > longer require their members to be FMCA members to join.
> >
> > GMCGL now purchases libillity insurance for the directors and officer As
> > for alcohol insurance FMCA does not have Alcohol insurance rider on their
> > policy. I have the complete discussion of the club responsibility and
> > research that was done and then voted by club members which was approved
> > and very similar to GMCMI and was approved by the members of GMCMI.
> > Unfortunately this is not open to non club members and consider internal
> > club business.
> >
> > J.R. Wright
> > GMC Great Laker MHC
> > GMCGL Tech Editor
> > GMC Eastern States Charter Member
> > GMCMI
> > 78 GMC Buskirk 29.5’ Stretch
> > 75 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
> > Michigan
> >
> >
> > > On May 27, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Hanson Email

> > >
> > > Thom;
> > >
> > > The travel insurance alone is worth the price of admission. There are
> > many
> > > advantages to being a member of that club. We don't have as many close
> by
> > > conventions, but they do as much for us in the West as they do in the
> > East.
> > >
> > > Dean Hanson
> > >
> > > Avion
> > >
> > > Painted Desert
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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There is a certain value to being in a larger organization with the greater
lobbying power that inevitably brings in our country.

Ken H.

On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 5:18 PM Bill Van Vlack
wrote:

> I believe that all GMC clubs that require members to be FMCA members is
> because they are 'Chapters' of FMCA and must follow the FMCA Chapter
> By-Laws.
> Once leaving FMCA, a Club would have to adopt their own set of By-Laws.
>
> FCMA D&O insurance also covers Chapters' directors and officers. Are there
> any other benefits provided by FMCA to Chapters (as opposed to what FMCA
> provides to individual members)?
> --
> Bill Van Vlack
> '76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath,
> Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o
> mid
> November 2015.
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Bill
You are correct that chapters of FMCA must follow the By Laws of FMCA but in addition the chapters also have had their own By Laws and Standing Rules. iIn addition they are covered by the income tax exemption of FMCA.
If a chapter drops their affiliation with FMCA they would modify their By Laws to omit reference to FMCA.

They also have to modify their tax standing with the IRS and if they want any liability protection as a Corporation they would have to obtain a Corporation certificate from a state.

Emery Stora

>
> GMC Classics are no longer a "chapter".
> Saguaro Jetset aren't either.
> I don't think the Six Wheelers are either.
>

>>
>> GMCDL also dropped FMCA membership. Last I heard was a GMCSS member poll
>> in progress on the topic; I haven't heard the results yet.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>

>>>
>>> Yes, the FMCA Travel Insurance is worth the price of admission. I have
>>> used for a tow twice and I still have membership as it is so much cheaper
>>> that other policies offered by other providers. You may or may not know
>>> that several GMC Clubs have left FMCA including GMCMI and GMCGL. They no
>>> longer require their members to be FMCA members to join.
>>>
>>> GMCGL now purchases libillity insurance for the directors and officer As
>>> for alcohol insurance FMCA does not have Alcohol insurance rider on their
>>> policy. I have the complete discussion of the club responsibility and
>>> research that was done and then voted by club members which was approved
>>> and very similar to GMCMI and was approved by the members of GMCMI.
>>> Unfortunately this is not open to non club members and consider internal
>>> club business.
>>>
>>> J.R. Wright
>>> GMC Great Laker MHC
>>> GMCGL Tech Editor
>>> GMC Eastern States Charter Member
>>> GMCMI
>>> 78 GMC Buskirk 29.5’ Stretch
>>> 75 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
>>> Michigan
>>>
>>>
>>>> On May 27, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Hanson Email

>>>>
>>>> Thom;
>>>>
>>>> The travel insurance alone is worth the price of admission. There are
>>> many
>>>> advantages to being a member of that club. We don't have as many close
>> by
>>>> conventions, but they do as much for us in the West as they do in the
>>> East.
>>>>
>>>> Dean Hanson
>>>>
>>>> Avion
>>>>
>>>> Painted Desert
>>>>
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Both Tire Rhack and Discount were cheaper than FMCA the last time I checked.
--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana