Fiberglass Woes-Solved

dick kennedy

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I called the Bondo hot line this morning and they told that my can was made
in '98 and was out of date. I had just purchased it at Lowes the day before.

They told me that the methyl ethyl ketone peroxide has a limited shelf life
and that it was most likely that just the hardener was bad. I then tried
some with a different tube of hardener and it set normally.

Another interesting piece of information was that all the resin I've used
previously sets to a pale greeen color while this can sets to a light brown
hue. The guy told me that there are two sources that produce the resin and
that the colors are different.

Anyway I returned the rest of the can Lowes then went to PEP Boys. They had
a brand that I hadn't seen before for $9.99 I then went next door to Wal
Mart and they had the Bondo Brand for $8.99 for a quart. It was made in
'99. The problem is solved.

While we're on the subject; I've seen references to glass fiber or glass
beads that can be used with fiberglass resin. Does anyone know of a source
for this stuff. The body filler that Bondo sells is some sort of a soft
polymer and is a pretty useless stuff. I would be nice if there were a
similar product that was glass filled.

Dick Kennedy

'75 PB

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>Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 07:51:54 -0500
>From: Dick Kennedy
>Subject: GMC: Fiberglass Woes
>
>What started out as a simple patch job
>has turned into a mess. I was out of
>fiberglass resin so went out and bought
>a new quart of Bondo brand
>polyester resin. When I got the can I
>greased the cap with vaseline to keep
>it free.
>
>I needed a flat piece to glass over the
>old furnace ports so the idea was
>to put a piece of matt on piece of glass
>and embed it with resin. Then when
>it sets I could put it in place over the
>holes. Sounds easy doesn't it?
>
>The first try I laid waxed paper on a
>piece of glass then fiberglass matt &
>poured resin over that. I went real
>light on the hardener on this one.
>After two days it's a gooey mess.
>
>The second try I got a new piece of
>glass, cleaned it with amonia then
>applied the matt and resin directly to
>it. Only this time I used about a
>50% excess of hardener. After 24 hours
>including and hour in the oven it's
>still a gooey mess.
>
>Next I poured a little bit of resin in a
>cup & added a couple of drops of
>hardener. It didn't set after an hour so
>I took another cup with a small
>amount and added several drops of
>hardener. After 12 hours the last cup is
>set but only in the part that was fully
>mixed.
>
>I've been patching things with
>fiberglass since the seventies doing
>everything from snowmobiles to the
>transom in my boat and have never had a
>problem. The only good part here is that
>I haven't applied any of this goo
>to the GMC.
>
>Has anyone else run into similar
>problems using fiberglass? I don't think
>I'n doing anything out of the ordinary
>but could use a sanity check.
>
>Dick Kennedy
>'75 PB
>
>
 
Dick,

There are products used in the homebuilt aircraft area that have such
fillers. While they are generally used for epoxy resin, I saw some for
polyester resin.

Some links where you can get the stuff online, look under composite
materials.

http://www.wicksaircraft.com
http://www.aircraft-spruce.com

HTH!

Chuck Esh
74 Sequoia
Georgetown, Tx

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Kennedy"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: GMC: Fiberglass Woes-Solved

> While we're on the subject; I've seen references to glass fiber or glass
> beads that can be used with fiberglass resin. Does anyone know of a source
> for this stuff. The body filler that Bondo sells is some sort of a soft
> polymer and is a pretty useless stuff. I would be nice if there were a
> similar product that was glass filled.
>
> Dick Kennedy
>
> '75 PB
>
 
Dont forget to check marine supplies. They have body filler filled with
Microballoons and are very light weight. Dont get me started with yacht
building stories...Using the wrong solvent to thin it in cold weather and having
an $8 million yacht with paint and filler falling off in 4x6 sheets!

Ron and Julie

> Dick,
>
> There are products used in the homebuilt aircraft area that have such
> fillers. While they are generally used for epoxy resin, I saw some for
> polyester resin.
>
> Some links where you can get the stuff online, look under composite
> materials.
>
> http://www.wicksaircraft.com
> http://www.aircraft-spruce.com
>
> HTH!
>
> Chuck Esh
> 74 Sequoia
> Georgetown, Tx
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dick Kennedy"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 7:12 PM
> Subject: Re: GMC: Fiberglass Woes-Solved
>
> > While we're on the subject; I've seen references to glass fiber or glass
> > beads that can be used with fiberglass resin. Does anyone know of a source
> > for this stuff. The body filler that Bondo sells is some sort of a soft
> > polymer and is a pretty useless stuff. I would be nice if there were a
> > similar product that was glass filled.
> >
> > Dick Kennedy
> >
> > '75 PB
> >
 
Thanks for all the input guys. Put the patch in place this morning and it
looks good.

My method of first bonding matt to a piece of glass to achieve a flat
surface worked well once I had fiberglass that would harden. The patch was
a little difficult to peel off the glass but then all I had to do was paint
both surfaces with fresh resin and put it on place.

Dick Kennedy

'75 PB