exhaust - Purchase

I went with the stock configuration, double mufflers up front because I didn't want to have to make any modifications to make the single rear muffler
fit.

I bought the aluminized 3" system from Applied, but you might want to go with SS due to your location. It was easy to install, except for the head
pipes (from the exhaust manifolds to the mufflers) which are not included. The Applied system is designed for use with headers. Maybe Jim has
improved the kit and offers the head pipes for manifolds now. I don't know.
--
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles,
Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
 
https://www.gmcrvparts.com/product-p/gm12-030.9.htm

On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 10:11 AM Carl Stouffer via Gmclist <

> I went with the stock configuration, double mufflers up front because I
> didn't want to have to make any modifications to make the single rear
> muffler
> fit.
>
> I bought the aluminized 3" system from Applied, but you might want to go
> with SS due to your location. It was easy to install, except for the head
> pipes (from the exhaust manifolds to the mufflers) which are not
> included. The Applied system is designed for use with headers. Maybe Jim
> has
> improved the kit and offers the head pipes for manifolds now. I don't
> know.
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
> Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive,
> Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American
> Eagles,
> Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
>
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Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
 
We can supply adapters to hook up to the stock exhaust pipe that comes down
from the manifold.

> https://www.gmcrvparts.com/product-p/gm12-030.9.htm
>
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 10:11 AM Carl Stouffer via Gmclist <

>
>> I went with the stock configuration, double mufflers up front because I
>> didn't want to have to make any modifications to make the single rear
>> muffler
>> fit.
>>
>> I bought the aluminized 3" system from Applied, but you might want to go
>> with SS due to your location. It was easy to install, except for the head
>> pipes (from the exhaust manifolds to the mufflers) which are not
>> included. The Applied system is designed for use with headers. Maybe Jim
>> has
>> improved the kit and offers the head pipes for manifolds now. I don't
>> know.
>> --
>> Carl Stouffer
>> '75 ex Palm Beach
>> Tucson, AZ.
>> Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive,
>> Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American
>> Eagles,
>> Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
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>
>
> --
> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
> jimk
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> 1-800-752-7502
>

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Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
 
Is there a reason to not put a single muffler just after the Y, before the exhaust enters the passenger side frame?
--
Todd Snyder, Buffalo NY
1976 Eleganza II
 
Room for the muffler
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Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles,
Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
 
Here is what I did for my rear mounted. Picked up the "Y" from Jimmy K and did the rest myself. What a PIA with the trial and error fitting...multiple
trips to the muffler shop for bending...etc...etc. If or when I have to do it again, I'd buy the ready made SS system from Jimmy, install it and be
done with it. I like the rear mount muffler. Reduction in heat and noise. Make sure you put heat shields between the muffler/mufflers and the floor.
JWID
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Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
 
Our new style SS 3" rear mufflers are now made slightly smaller so it fits
in the rear section easier.

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:03 AM Larry via Gmclist
wrote:

> Here is what I did for my rear mounted. Picked up the "Y" from Jimmy K and
> did the rest myself. What a PIA with the trial and error fitting...multiple
> trips to the muffler shop for bending...etc...etc. If or when I have to do
> it again, I'd buy the ready made SS system from Jimmy, install it and be
> done with it. I like the rear mount muffler. Reduction in heat and noise.
> Make sure you put heat shields between the muffler/mufflers and the floor.
> JWID
> --
> Larry
> 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
> Menomonie, WI.
>
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jimk
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
 
Jim,
Will your rear muffler fit on a Royale with a black tank?
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Cc: Jim Kanomata
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] exhaust - Purchase

Our new style SS 3" rear mufflers are now made slightly smaller so it fits
in the rear section easier.

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:03 AM Larry via Gmclist
wrote:

> Here is what I did for my rear mounted. Picked up the "Y" from Jimmy K and
> did the rest myself. What a PIA with the trial and error fitting...multiple
> trips to the muffler shop for bending...etc...etc. If or when I have to do
> it again, I'd buy the ready made SS system from Jimmy, install it and be
> done with it. I like the rear mount muffler. Reduction in heat and noise.
> Make sure you put heat shields between the muffler/mufflers and the floor.
> JWID
> --
> Larry
> 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
> Menomonie, WI.
>
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I did something similar to Larry. My coach had 2 magnaflow mufflers up front installed by my PO and 3" exhaust to the rear. Everything was in like
new condition except one of the mufflers burned a hole the top larger than a softball. My inspection of the other muffler revealed It was about to do
the same thing at the same top spot. I tried to get magnaflow to give me some new ones to replace the mufflers and they refused to talk to me.

So I read about Emery's single Flowmaster in the rear and decided to do it that way. It was a simple change over that I did on the floor in my
hangar. I installed 2 pipes where the mufflers were and cut the rear pipe and installed one rear mounted flowmaster muffler.

Dan Gregg later that year had a similar problem with burning through the top of the muffler. It burned a hole clear through the floor. I saw his
coach at Jim K's. Dan and I fashioned and installed two heat shields out of some scrap in Jim's scrap pile. Then he had Jim's guys install a
complete new 2 muffler exhaust system. It was great watching his guys do the installation. Everything just slipped together and fit perfectly. I
think it took them about 1 hour to replace every thing.

Heat shields are a must on either the 1 or 2 muffler system.
--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
FWIW, some have used old cookie sheets as heat shields. About the right size and makes. use of something that was going to be thrown out anyway. Plus
when it gets hot you are treated to the smell of fresh baked chocolate chip.... YUM!!
--
Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
 
I am working on 2.25" stock manifold to muffler pipes for 455 right now. My builder has my GM samples. I have sourced dual wall aluminized mufflers
in the same form factor as original. Being dual wall they radiate less noise into the cabin, and have the burn through resistance of the originals.
All road tests have been great. This is for those that want stock replacement parts which are no longer available from GM. Not trying to compete with
performance systems from others. I will update with availability. I still need a good Y pipe sample to complete the project. Thanks.
--
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
 
Keith,
I'm sure the muffler will clear the sewer tank o the royal, just to be sure
look, as there are two configuration. Just be sure to put the heat shield
to protect the tank and the floor.

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 7:01 PM John R. Lebetski via Gmclist <

> I am working on 2.25" stock manifold to muffler pipes for 455 right now.
> My builder has my GM samples. I have sourced dual wall aluminized mufflers
> in the same form factor as original. Being dual wall they radiate less
> noise into the cabin, and have the burn through resistance of the
> originals.
> All road tests have been great. This is for those that want stock
> replacement parts which are no longer available from GM. Not trying to
> compete with
> performance systems from others. I will update with availability. I still
> need a good Y pipe sample to complete the project. Thanks.
> --
> John Lebetski
> Woodstock, IL
> 77 Eleganza II
>
>
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jimk
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1-800-752-7502
 
> I am working on 2.25" stock manifold to muffler pipes for 455 right now. My builder has my GM samples. I have sourced dual wall aluminized
> mufflers in the same form factor as original. Being dual wall they radiate less noise into the cabin, and have the burn through resistance of the
> originals. All road tests have been great. This is for those that want stock replacement parts which are no longer available from GM. Not trying
> to compete with performance systems from others. I will update with availability. I still need a good Y pipe sample to complete the project.
> Thanks.

John,

I have an intact Y pipe that I took out because the (existing failed) mufflers were welded to it. I could cut that off and ship the Y to you, if it
might help.

This will not be immediate, I am still working on my coach.

Matt Colie
--
Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
 
Yes one can use one muffler at the front. My concern is restriction on flow
as I have not found a way to make it work easily and efficiently.
I have seen some , so I will be looking into it, just need to contact me to
work on it.

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 6:22 AM Matt Colie via Gmclist <

> > I am working on 2.25" stock manifold to muffler pipes for 455 right now.
> My builder has my GM samples. I have sourced dual wall aluminized
> > mufflers in the same form factor as original. Being dual wall they
> radiate less noise into the cabin, and have the burn through resistance of
> the
> > originals. All road tests have been great. This is for those that want
> stock replacement parts which are no longer available from GM. Not trying
> > to compete with performance systems from others. I will update with
> availability. I still need a good Y pipe sample to complete the project.
> > Thanks.
>
> John,
>
> I have an intact Y pipe that I took out because the (existing failed)
> mufflers were welded to it. I could cut that off and ship the Y to you, if
> it
> might help.
>
> This will not be immediate, I am still working on my coach.
>
> Matt Colie
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>
> _______________________________________________
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Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
 
Lot of you need to be aware that a muffler shop cannot bend a pipe with out
inducing restrictions.
Mandrel bends are expensive but worth the cost.
Also the Japanese Engineers figured out that having the muffler toward the
rear helps to allow exaust flow, as the pulsing waves do not get disturbed
too early.

> Yes one can use one muffler at the front. My concern is restriction on
> flow as I have not found a way to make it work easily and efficiently.
> I have seen some , so I will be looking into it, just need to contact me
> to work on it.
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 6:22 AM Matt Colie via Gmclist <

>

>> > I am working on 2.25" stock manifold to muffler pipes for 455 right
>> now. My builder has my GM samples. I have sourced dual wall aluminized
>> > mufflers in the same form factor as original. Being dual wall they
>> radiate less noise into the cabin, and have the burn through resistance of
>> the
>> > originals. All road tests have been great. This is for those that
>> want stock replacement parts which are no longer available from GM. Not
>> trying
>> > to compete with performance systems from others. I will update with
>> availability. I still need a good Y pipe sample to complete the project.
>> > Thanks.
>>
>> John,
>>
>> I have an intact Y pipe that I took out because the (existing failed)
>> mufflers were welded to it. I could cut that off and ship the Y to you, if
>> it
>> might help.
>>
>> This will not be immediate, I am still working on my coach.
>>
>> Matt Colie
>> --
>> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
>> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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>>
> --
> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
> jimk
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> 1-800-752-7502
>
--
Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
 
Y-pipe , how to make you own, this guys stuff is beautiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wce_xaiYgV4

> I am working on 2.25" stock manifold to muffler pipes for 455 right now. My builder has my GM samples. I have sourced dual wall aluminized
> mufflers in the same form factor as original. Being dual wall they radiate less noise into the cabin, and have the burn through resistance of the
> originals. All road tests have been great. This is for those that want stock replacement parts which are no longer available from GM. Not trying
> to compete with performance systems from others. I will update with availability. I still need a good Y pipe sample to complete the project.
> Thanks.

--
Todd Snyder, Buffalo NY
1976 Eleganza II
 
Wonder if that Japanese engineer's name was Kanomata ?

jofarr
Soddy daisy tn
74, 76 & 78 26'

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Kanomata via Gmclist
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To:
Cc: Jim Kanomata
Sent: 7/19/2019 9:44:56 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] exhaust - Purchase
________________________________________________________________________________

Lot of you need to be aware that a muffler shop cannot bend a pipe with out
inducing restrictions.
Mandrel bends are expensive but worth the cost.
Also the Japanese Engineers figured out that having the muffler toward the
rear helps to allow exaust flow, as the pulsing waves do not get disturbed
too early.

> Yes one can use one muffler at the front. My concern is restriction on
> flow as I have not found a way to make it work easily and efficiently.
> I have seen some , so I will be looking into it, just need to contact me
> to work on it.
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 6:22 AM Matt Colie via Gmclist <

>

>> > I am working on 2.25" stock manifold to muffler pipes for 455 right
>> now. My builder has my GM samples. I have sourced dual wall aluminized
>> > mufflers in the same form factor as original. Being dual wall they
>> radiate less noise into the cabin, and have the burn through resistance of
>> the
>> > originals. All road tests have been great. This is for those that
>> want stock replacement parts which are no longer available from GM. Not
>> trying
>> > to compete with performance systems from others. I will update with
>> availability. I still need a good Y pipe sample to complete the project.
>> > Thanks.
>>
>> John,
>>
>> I have an intact Y pipe that I took out because the (existing failed)
>> mufflers were welded to it. I could cut that off and ship the Y to you, if
>> it
>> might help.
>>
>> This will not be immediate, I am still working on my coach.
>>
>> Matt Colie
>> --
>> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
>> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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>>
> --
> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
> jimk
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> 1-800-752-7502
>
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John,
The stock system is available from us, but the demand is low , so cost is
high.

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 10:18 AM Jesse Farr via Gmclist <

> Wonder if that Japanese engineer's name was Kanomata ?
>
> jofarr
> Soddy daisy tn
> 74, 76 & 78 26'
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Kanomata via Gmclist
> Reply-To:
> To:
> Cc: Jim Kanomata
> Sent: 7/19/2019 9:44:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] exhaust - Purchase
>
> ________________________________________________________________________________
>
> Lot of you need to be aware that a muffler shop cannot bend a pipe with out
> inducing restrictions.
> Mandrel bends are expensive but worth the cost.
> Also the Japanese Engineers figured out that having the muffler toward the
> rear helps to allow exaust flow, as the pulsing waves do not get disturbed
> too early.
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 6:38 AM Jim Kanomata

>
> > Yes one can use one muffler at the front. My concern is restriction on
> > flow as I have not found a way to make it work easily and efficiently.
> > I have seen some , so I will be looking into it, just need to contact me
> > to work on it.
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 6:22 AM Matt Colie via Gmclist <

> >

> >> > I am working on 2.25" stock manifold to muffler pipes for 455 right
> >> now. My builder has my GM samples. I have sourced dual wall aluminized
> >> > mufflers in the same form factor as original. Being dual wall they
> >> radiate less noise into the cabin, and have the burn through resistance
> of
> >> the
> >> > originals. All road tests have been great. This is for those that
> >> want stock replacement parts which are no longer available from GM. Not
> >> trying
> >> > to compete with performance systems from others. I will update with
> >> availability. I still need a good Y pipe sample to complete the project.
> >> > Thanks.
> >>
> >> John,
> >>
> >> I have an intact Y pipe that I took out because the (existing failed)
> >> mufflers were welded to it. I could cut that off and ship the Y to
> you, if
> >> it
> >> might help.
> >>
> >> This will not be immediate, I am still working on my coach.
> >>
> >> Matt Colie
> >> --
> >> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
> >> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
> >> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> >> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> GMCnet mailing list
> >> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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> >>
> > --
> > Jim Kanomata
> > Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
> > jimk
> > http://www.appliedgmc.com
> > 1-800-752-7502
> >
> --
> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
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> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> 1-800-752-7502
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Also, there must be 403 and 455.
Also these pipes are holding up fairly well.

> John,
> The stock system is available from us, but the demand is low , so cost is
> high.
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 10:18 AM Jesse Farr via Gmclist <

>
>> Wonder if that Japanese engineer's name was Kanomata ?
>>
>> jofarr
>> Soddy daisy tn
>> 74, 76 & 78 26'
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jim Kanomata via Gmclist
>> Reply-To:
>> To:
>> Cc: Jim Kanomata
>> Sent: 7/19/2019 9:44:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] exhaust - Purchase
>>
>> ________________________________________________________________________________
>>
>> Lot of you need to be aware that a muffler shop cannot bend a pipe with
>> out
>> inducing restrictions.
>> Mandrel bends are expensive but worth the cost.
>> Also the Japanese Engineers figured out that having the muffler toward the
>> rear helps to allow exaust flow, as the pulsing waves do not get disturbed
>> too early.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 6:38 AM Jim Kanomata

>>
>> > Yes one can use one muffler at the front. My concern is restriction on
>> > flow as I have not found a way to make it work easily and efficiently.
>> > I have seen some , so I will be looking into it, just need to contact me
>> > to work on it.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 6:22 AM Matt Colie via Gmclist <

>> >

>> >> > I am working on 2.25" stock manifold to muffler pipes for 455 right
>> >> now. My builder has my GM samples. I have sourced dual wall aluminized
>> >> > mufflers in the same form factor as original. Being dual wall they
>> >> radiate less noise into the cabin, and have the burn through
>> resistance of
>> >> the
>> >> > originals. All road tests have been great. This is for those that
>> >> want stock replacement parts which are no longer available from GM. Not
>> >> trying
>> >> > to compete with performance systems from others. I will update with
>> >> availability. I still need a good Y pipe sample to complete the
>> project.
>> >> > Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> John,
>> >>
>> >> I have an intact Y pipe that I took out because the (existing failed)
>> >> mufflers were welded to it. I could cut that off and ship the Y to
>> you, if
>> >> it
>> >> might help.
>> >>
>> >> This will not be immediate, I am still working on my coach.
>> >>
>> >> Matt Colie
>> >> --
>> >> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>> >> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
>> >> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
>> >> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> GMCnet mailing list
>> >> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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>> >>
>> > --
>> > Jim Kanomata
>> > Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
>> > jimk
>> > http://www.appliedgmc.com
>> > 1-800-752-7502
>> >
>> --
>> Jim Kanomata
>> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
>> jimk
>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
>> 1-800-752-7502
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> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
> jimk
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> 1-800-752-7502
>

--
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Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502