Electronic Ignition for onan

al chernoff

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Had a great time with Chuck putting in my electronic ignition on my 6kw onan.
Couldn't get it to work. Seemed to work on every other one that had been done.
But my luck held, if I didn't have bad luck I wouldn't have any at all. Got home
and decided to try again. Read chuck's write-up and the one that came with the
electronic ignition said the red wire to the hot side. I noticed that when Chuck
was working with me, the red was on the side the points had been connected to.
Then I reversed and put the black one on the one with the points, and the red to
the other side. Well, it works. So, Billy, add a note to the one you have on the
ignition to wire it that way. It starts and runs great.

In the process, I bought another one, thinking I had a defective ignition. If
anyone wants it, it cost me about $110 and I will ship it to whoever wants to pay
me and the shipping. If I do not hear from anyone by Wed I will just take it back
to Cummins.

al
 
See if we had read your article on my web page, we would have known that.....

The one thing your article has Emery is the timing. I am going to try and
throw up a picture of that when I can.

gene

>Al - I had sent the following message in response to a question from Lanier
>last April 6. I looked it up to see what I had said about the red and black
>leads. Glad to hear that you got yours working all right. Guess this is an
>easy thing to get reversed even if one has done them before.
>
>Emery Stora
>
>points. This includes all (Model NH) Onan generators installed on GMCs.
It
>is called Magna Arc, part number 160-1376. I believe this is the only one
>they have called Magna Arc. It contains an ignition module, cover and cover
>clip, base plate and gasket.
>
>This new unit will not fit as is comes out of the package. The main problem
>with the new unit is there is insufficient room to make adjustments to the
>adjusting screw, so you can cut off both right angle sheet metal bends that
>hold the adjusting screw and discarded the adjusting screw, spring and
>washers. It is very easy to do this with one cut. Loosen the adjustment
>hold down screw and move the two metal bracket pieces so that are lined up
to
>the left. Then remove the adjusting screw, spring and washers and make a
cut
>with a hacksaw on the right side just even with the outside of the hold down
>washer. Throw away the two small pieces you cut off. File the cut edges
>smooth. Then remove the points and condenser from the old base plate and
>remount the old base plate, using the new base gasket. The new components
>will screw down under the two screws used to hold the baseplate. Then time
>the engine using a timing light per the instruction sheet. Disregard a lot
>of the timing instructions that come with the new parts. They talk about
>marking the shaft and even removing the cover. You don't have to do that
>with our Onans. We have a small hole, about 1/2" in dia. on the top inside
>of the fan housing. Point your timing light at the hole and there will be a
>single timing mark. Move the bracket by finger adjustment until the timing
>mark lines up in the hole. Then tighten the locknut on the adjusting back
>plate when the timing is correct. The new cover has a grommet that fits
over
>the wires. If you drill a hole in the new cover in the same location as the
>old cover it will fit and you can discard the new cover clip. There are two
>wires coming out of the module. The red one goes on the hot lead to the
coil
>(the back one on mine). The black lead goes to the ground side of the
coil.
>The old points had a push on connector. The new black lead has a ring
>connector so it will be necessary to get a nut that fits the threaded
>terminal. The Onan is much easier to start and performs exceptionally well.
>
>I see that Dave Melton has posted another way to install it. While working
>on mine, I looked at reversing the new base plate which shifts the case to
>the right (the manifold is in the way otherwise) but then determined that
the
>two mounting holes are offset from the shaft hole so I would have to drill
>two new holes and do a little grinding for clearance. I decided that it was
>easier and quicker for me to make one hacksaw cut than to attempt to
>accurately line up and drill the two holes.
>
>Dave's method retains the adjustment screw, but since it could be years
>before I'll have to adjust it again. It is simple just to move the
>adjustment bracket with my finger. I don't even have to find a tool.
>
>Both methods should work fine. As I've said before (to the horror of you
cat
>owners), there is more than one way to skin a cat.
>
>Emery Stora
>77 Kingsley
>Santa Fe, NM
>
Genef -- 77PB/ore/ca
GMC MOTORHOME INFORMATION
mr.erf
http://www.california.com/~eagle/
 
As usual, I did not say that well.

Your article was great. A very important point that the others missed, was
how to time the finished product.

phewwww.... have to be careful lots of toes out here to step on.

Yep I am going to build that circuit also, and I think it will need some
tweeking like a sensitivity control that I guess your Ign. has on it. Lets
keep in touch

Thanks again for the post.

gene

>See if we had read your article on my web page, we would have known
that.....
>
>The one thing your article has Emery is the timing. I am going to try and
>throw up a picture of that when I can.
>
>gene
>
Genef -- 77PB/ore/ca
GMC MOTORHOME INFORMATION
mr.erf
http://www.california.com/~eagle/
 
Chuck's handout states:

"The electrical wires connect to the ignition coil- red to positive side
and black to negative side."

Are you saying that this should be reversed?

I haven't received my electronic ignition from Albuquerque Cummins yet so
haven't had a chance to try it. I think it's scheduled to ship this
week. They said that they'd honor the Rally Discount for me.

bdub

>Had a great time with Chuck putting in my electronic ignition on my 6kw onan.
>Couldn't get it to work. Seemed to work on every other one that had been
>done.
>But my luck held, if I didn't have bad luck I wouldn't have any at
>all. Got home
>and decided to try again. Read chuck's write-up and the one that came
>with the
>electronic ignition said the red wire to the hot side. I noticed that
>when Chuck
>was working with me, the red was on the side the points had been connected to.
>Then I reversed and put the black one on the one with the points, and the
>red to
>the other side. Well, it works. So, Billy, add a note to the one you
>have on the
>ignition to wire it that way. It starts and runs great.
>
>In the process, I bought another one, thinking I had a defective ignition. If
>anyone wants it, it cost me about $110 and I will ship it to whoever wants
>to pay
>me and the shipping. If I do not hear from anyone by Wed I will just take
>it back
>to Cummins.
>
>al
>
>
 
Just remember: Unless you are the lead dog, the scenery never changes.
al

> In a message dated 10/31/1999 10:31:40 PM Central Standard Time,

>
> > phewwww.... have to be careful lots of toes out here to step on.
> >
> Gene
>
> There is one thing I have learned about life. If you are running out in front
> you are going to step on a lot of toes. The guy behind you is the one
> watching you and creating the map for all the others to follow. He will get
> the credit for the map. At least most of the toes here are not land mines.
> Nice thing about the net---------its real but it only hurts if you let it.
> Thats
> cool!
>
> Take Care My friend
> Arch
 
How did I know this was you ???

gene

>Just remember: Unless you are the lead dog, the scenery never changes.
>al
>

>
>> In a message dated 10/31/1999 10:31:40 PM Central Standard Time,

>>
>> > phewwww.... have to be careful lots of toes out here to step on.
>> >
>> Gene
>>
>> There is one thing I have learned about life. If you are running out in
front
>> you are going to step on a lot of toes. The guy behind you is the one
>> watching you and creating the map for all the others to follow. He will get
>> the credit for the map. At least most of the toes here are not land mines.
>> Nice thing about the net---------its real but it only hurts if you let it.
>> Thats
>> cool!
>>
>> Take Care My friend
>> Arch
>
>
Genef -- 77PB/ore/ca
GMC MOTORHOME INFORMATION
mr.erf
http://www.california.com/~eagle/