Dip Stick Q's

jim bounds1

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Rick,
If your lower dip stick tube is broken, join a club of many people. The
lower tube runs between the block & manifold where it gets so hotthat the
metal changes properties and cracks. Maybe that is why they made a lower &
upper, knowing the lower would get toasted and need replacing every time
the manifold is pulled!

I had been making new lower tubes using a piece of 3/8" tubing cut to
length and a steel ferrel tack welded to make the shoulder. Then one day I
was in Discount Auto parts wandering around aimlessly and found a dip stick
tube & stick that fi all GM V8 engines. It was the right dia. & a bit
longer than our lower section. I took it to the shop, measured the length
and used a pipe cutter and cut it to size. It worked purfectly and was
chrome plated to boot! The best part though, it was cheaper, if you take
into account assembly time & materials, to buy this piece, cut it to fit
and throw away the stick that was included. Actually the sticl worked
great in my sons dune buggy so I had a win-win.

If this is the part you need, go to pep boys and save some $.

Hope this helps,

Jim Bounds
- -----------------

> When Suzette and I first went to pick up what we now lovingly refer to
>as "THE GREAT PUMPKIN" aka '73 Painted Desert (the "painted" part is orange
>as you might have imagined)...I was unable to locate the oil dipstick to
>check the level and condition of the crankcase. To be safe I just did an oil
>change before hitting I-10 to Mesa.
>
> Your responses to an earlier post of mine in January caused me to
>realize that my dipstick was missing from its location under the front
>inspection cover. Upon closer examination I found a "stub" of a dipstick
tube
>protruding from between the block and the exhaust manifold. The "stub" was
>topped with a compression union and it appeared that perhaps an extension
>tube had been attached from there.
>
> Today I removed the exhaust manifold after tracking an exhaust leak
to a
>bad manifold gasket and noticed a second compression union on the dipstick
>stub which had been hidden by the manifold.
>
> Our coach is #968. Does this sound like early production stuff, or a
>cobbled attempt at repairing a broken tube? What options do I have? Should I
>just find a Toronado dipstick assembly and check the oil from under the
>floor, or go to the trouble of trying to put in a long extended one from the
>front access area.
>
> As always your help is appreciated................."Rick"
>
>
Jim Bounds/Co-op Motor Works Orlando www.gmccoop.com
 
Jim,
What is the length it needs to be cut. I
have the same problem.
Rob Teed 74 Painted Desert

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gmcmotorhome
> [mailto:owner-gmcmotorhome]On Behalf Of Jim Bounds
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 7:48 AM
> To: gmcmotorhome
> Subject: Re: GMC: Dip Stick Q's
>
>
> Rick,
> If your lower dip stick tube is broken, join a club of many people. The
> lower tube runs between the block & manifold where it gets so hotthat the
> metal changes properties and cracks. Maybe that is why they made
> a lower &
> upper, knowing the lower would get toasted and need replacing every time
> the manifold is pulled!
>
> I had been making new lower tubes using a piece of 3/8" tubing cut to
> length and a steel ferrel tack welded to make the shoulder. Then
> one day I
> was in Discount Auto parts wandering around aimlessly and found a
> dip stick
> tube & stick that fi all GM V8 engines. It was the right dia. & a bit
> longer than our lower section. I took it to the shop, measured the length
> and used a pipe cutter and cut it to size. It worked purfectly and was
> chrome plated to boot! The best part though, it was cheaper, if you take
> into account assembly time & materials, to buy this piece, cut it to fit
> and throw away the stick that was included. Actually the sticl worked
> great in my sons dune buggy so I had a win-win.
>
> If this is the part you need, go to pep boys and save some $.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Jim Bounds
> -----------------

> > When Suzette and I first went to pick up what we now
> lovingly refer to
> >as "THE GREAT PUMPKIN" aka '73 Painted Desert (the "painted"
> part is orange
> >as you might have imagined)...I was unable to locate the oil dipstick to
> >check the level and condition of the crankcase. To be safe I
> just did an oil
> >change before hitting I-10 to Mesa.
> >
> > Your responses to an earlier post of mine in January caused me to
> >realize that my dipstick was missing from its location under the front
> >inspection cover. Upon closer examination I found a "stub" of a dipstick
> tube
> >protruding from between the block and the exhaust manifold. The
> "stub" was
> >topped with a compression union and it appeared that perhaps an
> extension
> >tube had been attached from there.
> >
> > Today I removed the exhaust manifold after tracking an exhaust leak
> to a
> >bad manifold gasket and noticed a second compression union on
> the dipstick
> >stub which had been hidden by the manifold.
> >
> > Our coach is #968. Does this sound like early production
> stuff, or a
> >cobbled attempt at repairing a broken tube? What options do I
> have? Should I
> >just find a Toronado dipstick assembly and check the oil from under the
> >floor, or go to the trouble of trying to put in a long extended
> one from the
> >front access area.
> >
> > As always your help is appreciated................."Rick"
> >
> >
> Jim Bounds/Co-op Motor Works Orlando www.gmccoop.com
>
>
 
I have both oil and trans dipsticks up front.
I check each whenever I get gas.
You can buy these from Ken Frey in Quakertown PA.
His Phone number is 215-536-1246.

Bob Morris
Jayhawk
74 Elganza SE
Cortland NY
- ----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: GMC: Dip Stick Q's

>

>
> don't mind spending the money but it seems to me like it's really no big
deal
> lift the floor to check the oil.
>
> Does the long one go in and out smoothly or does it fight back? How good
does
> it "read" dragging the end of the stick through 3 more feet of tube?
>
> I had no problem getting the old one out of the block and either should be
as
> easy to install I would think.
>
> "Rick" >>
>
> Rick -- I sure find it a lot easier to just open the door whenever I've
> stopped for gasoline and check the oil stick. I'm sure I check it more
> frequently than if I had to open the motorbox each time. It slides in and
> out smoothly. The reading is fine, the flat stick is kept centered by the
> round tube so the oil is not dragged off the sides of the stick. I have
even
> been thinking of making a transmission long tube to be able to also read
it
> from the front. Has anyone already done this?
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Santa Fe, NM
>
 
Bob
How much?

Thanks
MikeB
NS

> I have both oil and trans dipsticks up front.
> I check each whenever I get gas.
> You can buy these from Ken Frey in Quakertown PA.
> His Phone number is 215-536-1246.
>
> Bob Morris
 
Emery,
You just made me wonder. My dip stick is a wire with a flat end. I wonder if
my dip stick is homemade. Or is that what you meant by "the flat stick "?

It is sure an attention grabber at the service stations when I pull that long
sucker out
and try to read the end without letting it touch anything. I guess my arms are
not
long enough.
Richard Waters '76, PB, Troy, MI
- ----

> the flat stick is kept centered by the round tube so the oil is not dragged off
> the sides of the stick.
 
Emery,
Ken Frey sell the long dipstick for the transmission for 60$ including
shipping. I got one at Myrtle Beach for $50 but then it was cash and
carry. Took about 20 minutes to install and works great. Sits right
next to the oil dip stick and can check them both at fuel stops.
Remember to check the tranny with the engine running and fluid hot. He
can be reached @ 215-536-1246.

J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
77 Eleganza II
Michigan

>

>
> don't mind spending the money but it seems to me like it's really no big deal
> lift the floor to check the oil.
>
> Does the long one go in and out smoothly or does it fight back? How good does
> it "read" dragging the end of the stick through 3 more feet of tube?
>
> I had no problem getting the old one out of the block and either should be as
> easy to install I would think.
>
> "Rick" >>
>
> Rick -- I sure find it a lot easier to just open the door whenever I've
> stopped for gasoline and check the oil stick. I'm sure I check it more
> frequently than if I had to open the motorbox each time. It slides in and
> out smoothly. The reading is fine, the flat stick is kept centered by the
> round tube so the oil is not dragged off the sides of the stick. I have even
> been thinking of making a transmission long tube to be able to also read it
> from the front. Has anyone already done this?
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Santa Fe, NM
 
Mine's the same way. It's a factory stick.

J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
77 Eleganza II
Michigan

>
> Emery,
> You just made me wonder. My dip stick is a wire with a flat end. I wonder if
> my dip stick is homemade. Or is that what you meant by "the flat stick "?
>
> It is sure an attention grabber at the service stations when I pull that long
> sucker out
> and try to read the end without letting it touch anything. I guess my arms are
> not
> long enough.
> Richard Waters '76, PB, Troy, MI
> ----
>

>
> > the flat stick is kept centered by the round tube so the oil is not dragged off
> > the sides of the stick.
 
Rob,
The tube is 16.5" long. I did not record the point where the ferrel goes.
Ust the pieces of the origional as a pattern. I have seen different length
lower tubes with different length dip sticks cut to match. Check your
length and check before and after your new install.

Jim Bounds
- ------------------

>Jim,
> What is the length it needs to be cut. I
> have the same problem.
> Rob Teed 74 Painted Desert
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-gmcmotorhome
>> [mailto:owner-gmcmotorhome]On Behalf Of Jim Bounds
>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 7:48 AM
>> To: gmcmotorhome
>> Subject: Re: GMC: Dip Stick Q's
>>
>>
>> Rick,
>> If your lower dip stick tube is broken, join a club of many people. The
>> lower tube runs between the block & manifold where it gets so hotthat the
>> metal changes properties and cracks. Maybe that is why they made
>> a lower &
>> upper, knowing the lower would get toasted and need replacing every time
>> the manifold is pulled!
>>
>> I had been making new lower tubes using a piece of 3/8" tubing cut to
>> length and a steel ferrel tack welded to make the shoulder. Then
>> one day I
>> was in Discount Auto parts wandering around aimlessly and found a
>> dip stick
>> tube & stick that fi all GM V8 engines. It was the right dia. & a bit
>> longer than our lower section. I took it to the shop, measured the length
>> and used a pipe cutter and cut it to size. It worked purfectly and was
>> chrome plated to boot! The best part though, it was cheaper, if you take
>> into account assembly time & materials, to buy this piece, cut it to fit
>> and throw away the stick that was included. Actually the sticl worked
>> great in my sons dune buggy so I had a win-win.
>>
>> If this is the part you need, go to pep boys and save some $.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Jim Bounds
>> -----------------

>> > When Suzette and I first went to pick up what we now
>> lovingly refer to
>> >as "THE GREAT PUMPKIN" aka '73 Painted Desert (the "painted"
>> part is orange
>> >as you might have imagined)...I was unable to locate the oil dipstick to
>> >check the level and condition of the crankcase. To be safe I
>> just did an oil
>> >change before hitting I-10 to Mesa.
>> >
>> > Your responses to an earlier post of mine in January caused me to
>> >realize that my dipstick was missing from its location under the front
>> >inspection cover. Upon closer examination I found a "stub" of a dipstick
>> tube
>> >protruding from between the block and the exhaust manifold. The
>> "stub" was
>> >topped with a compression union and it appeared that perhaps an
>> extension
>> >tube had been attached from there.
>> >
>> > Today I removed the exhaust manifold after tracking an exhaust leak
>> to a
>> >bad manifold gasket and noticed a second compression union on
>> the dipstick
>> >stub which had been hidden by the manifold.
>> >
>> > Our coach is #968. Does this sound like early production
>> stuff, or a
>> >cobbled attempt at repairing a broken tube? What options do I
>> have? Should I
>> >just find a Toronado dipstick assembly and check the oil from under the
>> >floor, or go to the trouble of trying to put in a long extended
>> one from the
>> >front access area.
>> >
>> > As always your help is appreciated................."Rick"
>> >
>> >
>> Jim Bounds/Co-op Motor Works Orlando www.gmccoop.com
>>
>>
>
>
>
Jim Bounds/Co-op Motor Works Orlando www.gmccoop.com