Change your engine oil filter as GM suggested. No matter the oil you use.

[adolph santorine]

Thanks for the research. Point - change your oil. Got it. No expe=
rience with windmills, turbine or =E2=80=9Cterbine(sic)=E2=80=9D, myths or =
=E2=80=9Cmithes(sic)" Sorry. Dolph DE AD0LF Wheeling=
, West Virginia 1977 26=E2=80=99 ex-PalmBeach Howell EFI & EBL, Reac=
tion Arms, Manny Transmission =E2=80=9CThe Aluminum and Fiberglass Mis=
tress" > On May 1, 2019, at 10:12 AM, Bob Dunahugh via Gmclist wrote: > > I just called 3 of the largest engine re=
builders in Eastern Iowa. All 3 said that running oil changes over 4000 mil=
es with any oil. Makes for great income for them. I asked about older verse=
s newer engines. As to syntetics. All said that syntetics are a good idea i=
n engines built after 1996. But it still comes down to changing all oils at=
3 to 4000 miles. > As to mithes, and strange stories told. Iowa gets 34%=
of it's electricity now from wind. The plan is to be close to 100% by 2030=
. Our only atomic plant is closing next year. So wind power is a big deal =
here. Most wind terbines are in NW Iowa. But resently it was told that the=
sound from wind turbines cause cancer. REALLY? Interesting. Bob Dunahugh=
> > ________________________________ > From: Bob Dunahugh > Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 1:42 AM > To: gmclist=
.gmcnet.org > Subject: RE: Change your engine oil filter as GM suggested.=
No matter the oil you use. > > Dolph said that with synthetics. His o=
il stays cleaner. Engine oil decolorization comes from the byproducts of co=
mbustion. That combustion in the combustion chamber is NOT an explosion. =
As most commonly believed. It's a very controlled/complex flame front. The =
only way that those contaminates can be reduced in our engines that we run.=
Is by the instalation of an EFI system that has spark control. This spark=
control is a huge part in cleaning up crankcase contamination. Without tha=
t spark control. You just have an electronic Q jet. > One of the jobs th=
at oils have to do in an internal combustion engine. Is to keep these crank=
case contaminets in suspention. So that these byproducts can be filtered o=
ut by the oil filter. I want my oil to get discolored. That can mean that =
my crankcase is getting cleaned. Bob Dunahugh > > ____________________=
____________ > From: Bob Dunahugh > Sent: Tuesda=
y, April 30, 2019 10:03 AM > To: gmclist > Subject: Cha=
nge your engine oil filter as GM suggested. No matter the oil you use. > =
> Back when I was in collage. Myself, and others put together a Masters =
study on oil filters. And at the length of service. And at what point that =
the oil filter bypass would be opened. We drilled a lot of holes in engine =
blocks for gauges. Part of the study used cars from all of the big 3 back =
then. I was alittle surprised how all 3 brands were so similar in bypass op=
ening. The filter medias in general. Where getting restricted to the point =
that bypass's valves. Started at about 2400 miles. All engine where equippe=
d with PCV's installed. This is an extremely short, and general e-mail of=
a very long review of the paper. Bob Dunahugh 78 Royale > > ________=
________________________ > From: Bob Dunahugh > =
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 5:09 AM > To: gmclist > Su=
bject: RE: Synthetics are great. But I don't see them in our old dirty engi=
nes > > Matt. How often do you change your oil filter? Bob D > =
> ________________________________ > From: Bob Dunahugh > Sent: Sunday,=
April 28, 2019 11:52 AM > To: gmclist > Subject: Synth=
etics are great. But I don't see them in our old dirty engines > > I t=
hink nowadays, most manufactures recommend synthetics for the engine that =
are produced today. Yes. Both the old/new engines have pistons that go up, =
and down. And a crankshaft that goes round, and round. But after that. It's=
a different world. Look how small the oil filters are. And how long the oi=
l change cycles are. These new engine run extremely clean inside the crankc=
ase. As to oil contamination. > Our engine are of a different design. Th=
at produce much more of these damaging crankcase oil contaminants. You h=
elp to negate some of what these contaminants do to you engine. Simply by =
removing them by more frequent oil/filter changes. Using synthetics simply =
doesn't change this situation. I put the Howell/GM EFI system on our 403. I=
've noticed that my oil stays cleaner, longer. But even after adding the EF=
I. I haven't lengthened my oil change intervals. YES. I'm a NUT on oil chan=
ges. But I seem to get some benefits. As an example. I have a 98 Chevy Ast=
ro that was used for one of our businesses. Then our daughter used it for =
some year. Now I'm back to using it. I like it. The interior/seats still lo=
ok great. Oil/filter changes have always been in the 3000 mile range. The o=
dometer is now at 324,000 miles. Hot oil PSI are at 50. Never add oil betw=
een oil changes. That 4.3 Chevy V6 has never been apart for anything. Alway=
s had the same old 10W-30 used in it. Planning on a trip to Kansas/Oklahoma=
from Iowa in the next few weeks with it. As to synthetic oils. Use them. J=
ust don't go over 3000 miles on an oil change. Bob Dunahugh 78 Royale=
> _______________________________________________ > GMCnet mailing lis=
t > Unsubscribe or Change List Options: > http://list.gmcnet.org/mailma=
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[Jim Hupy]

We have a wind farm in the Columbia River Gorge. It is 25 or 30 MILES long.
These are not your average wind turbines. It takes special trucks with
steerable trailers to carry just one blade for these things. There are
hundreds of these behemoths. You can hear them spinning miles away. They
are located in a Senic Area where building restrictions prevent houses from
being built. It is quite a sight. Impoundments behind numerous
hydroelectric dams, with locks for barge and tug travel, huge wind
turbines, fish ladders for migrating protected salmon and steelhead trout,
wind surfers and kite surfers, pleasure .boats both powered and sail,
Native American gill netters, and shuttered aluminum plants no longer used
because of aluminum recycling is cheaper to do than refine ores with
electric furnaces. The plants were guaranteed inexpensive hydro power for
long term contracts with the Federal Bonneville Power Ageny. They can sell
surplus power back into the power grid. That is more profitable than
smelting aluminum. So, that is what they do. They never fired crews. As
they age out, they have fat cat retirement plans. Guess who pays? What a
deal. America, land of opportunity. Don't even start on the Hanford Nuclear
plants, but if you want the straight skinny, talk to Jerry Work. It will
curdle your milk for sure.
Jim Hupy

On Wed, May 1, 2019, 7:20 AM Dolph Santorine via Gmclist <

> Thanks for the research.
>
> Point - change your oil. Got it.
>
> No experience with windmills, turbine or “terbine(sic)”, myths or
> “mithes(sic)"
>
> Sorry.
>
>
> Dolph
>
> DE AD0LF
>
> Wheeling, West Virginia
>
> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
> Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
>
> “The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>
> > On May 1, 2019, at 10:12 AM, Bob Dunahugh via Gmclist <

> >
> > I just called 3 of the largest engine rebuilders in Eastern Iowa. All 3
> said that running oil changes over 4000 miles with any oil. Makes for great
> income for them. I asked about older verses newer engines. As to syntetics.
> All said that syntetics are a good idea in engines built after 1996. But it
> still comes down to changing all oils at 3 to 4000 miles.
> > As to mithes, and strange stories told. Iowa gets 34% of it's
> electricity now from wind. The plan is to be close to 100% by 2030. Our
> only atomic plant is closing next year. So wind power is a big deal here.
> Most wind terbines are in NW Iowa. But resently it was told that the sound
> from wind turbines cause cancer. REALLY? Interesting. Bob Dunahugh
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Bob Dunahugh
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 1:42 AM
> > To: gmclist
> > Subject: RE: Change your engine oil filter as GM suggested. No matter
> the oil you use.
> >
> > Dolph said that with synthetics. His oil stays cleaner. Engine oil
> decolorization comes from the byproducts of combustion. That combustion
> in the combustion chamber is NOT an explosion. As most commonly believed.
> It's a very controlled/complex flame front. The only way that those
> contaminates can be reduced in our engines that we run. Is by the
> instalation of an EFI system that has spark control. This spark control is
> a huge part in cleaning up crankcase contamination. Without that spark
> control. You just have an electronic Q jet.
> > One of the jobs that oils have to do in an internal combustion engine.
> Is to keep these crankcase contaminets in suspention. So that these
> byproducts can be filtered out by the oil filter. I want my oil to get
> discolored. That can mean that my crankcase is getting cleaned. Bob Dunahugh
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Bob Dunahugh
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 10:03 AM
> > To: gmclist
> > Subject: Change your engine oil filter as GM suggested. No matter the
> oil you use.
> >
> > Back when I was in collage. Myself, and others put together a Masters
> study on oil filters. And at the length of service. And at what point that
> the oil filter bypass would be opened. We drilled a lot of holes in engine
> blocks for gauges. Part of the study used cars from all of the big 3 back
> then. I was alittle surprised how all 3 brands were so similar in bypass
> opening. The filter medias in general. Where getting restricted to the
> point that bypass's valves. Started at about 2400 miles. All engine where
> equipped with PCV's installed. This is an extremely short, and general
> e-mail of a very long review of the paper. Bob Dunahugh 78 Royale
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Bob Dunahugh
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 5:09 AM
> > To: gmclist
> > Subject: RE: Synthetics are great. But I don't see them in our old dirty
> engines
> >
> > Matt. How often do you change your oil filter? Bob D
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Bob Dunahugh
> > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 11:52 AM
> > To: gmclist
> > Subject: Synthetics are great. But I don't see them in our old dirty
> engines
> >
> > I think nowadays, most manufactures recommend synthetics for the engine
> that are produced today. Yes. Both the old/new engines have pistons that go
> up, and down. And a crankshaft that goes round, and round. But after that.
> It's a different world. Look how small the oil filters are. And how long
> the oil change cycles are. These new engine run extremely clean inside the
> crankcase. As to oil contamination.
> > Our engine are of a different design. That produce much more of these
> damaging crankcase oil contaminants. You help to negate some of what
> these contaminants do to you engine. Simply by removing them by more
> frequent oil/filter changes. Using synthetics simply doesn't change this
> situation. I put the Howell/GM EFI system on our 403. I've noticed that my
> oil stays cleaner, longer. But even after adding the EFI. I haven't
> lengthened my oil change intervals. YES. I'm a NUT on oil changes. But I
> seem to get some benefits. As an example. I have a 98 Chevy Astro that
> was used for one of our businesses. Then our daughter used it for some
> year. Now I'm back to using it. I like it. The interior/seats still look
> great. Oil/filter changes have always been in the 3000 mile range. The
> odometer is now at 324,000 miles. Hot oil PSI are at 50. Never add oil
> between oil changes. That 4.3 Chevy V6 has never been apart for anything.
> Always had the same old 10W-30 used in it. Planning on a trip to
> Kansas/Oklahoma from Iowa in the next few weeks with it. As to synthetic
> oils. Use them. Just don't go over 3000 miles on an oil change. Bob
> Dunahugh 78 Royale
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[Irish Rogue]

Dolph:
Thanks for your research and e mail - but:
After talking to Bob D. and other engine experts and reading Bob D’s e mail of 4/28/19 at 11:52 am - I am going to stay w/ an engine oil like Delo 400 or Rotella that have Zddp in them for my 43 year old 455 Olds engine. And change same every 3,000 miles or less - not more (just like I always have).
I want my engine oil to be dirty and my engine to be clean - I also do and will continue to change the filter w/ each oil change (most important w/ these old engines).
Shooting for 200,000 miles on my Dick Patterson rebuilt Olds 455 - if I get 300,000 miles, that will be okay.
Mike/The Corvair a holic

Sent from my iPhone

>
> We have a wind farm in the Columbia River Gorge. It is 25 or 30 MILES long.
> These are not your average wind turbines. It takes special trucks with
> steerable trailers to carry just one blade for these things. There are
> hundreds of these behemoths. You can hear them spinning miles away. They
> are located in a Senic Area where building restrictions prevent houses from
> being built. It is quite a sight. Impoundments behind numerous
> hydroelectric dams, with locks for barge and tug travel, huge wind
> turbines, fish ladders for migrating protected salmon and steelhead trout,
> wind surfers and kite surfers, pleasure .boats both powered and sail,
> Native American gill netters, and shuttered aluminum plants no longer used
> because of aluminum recycling is cheaper to do than refine ores with
> electric furnaces. The plants were guaranteed inexpensive hydro power for
> long term contracts with the Federal Bonneville Power Ageny. They can sell
> surplus power back into the power grid. That is more profitable than
> smelting aluminum. So, that is what they do. They never fired crews. As
> they age out, they have fat cat retirement plans. Guess who pays? What a
> deal. America, land of opportunity. Don't even start on the Hanford Nuclear
> plants, but if you want the straight skinny, talk to Jerry Work. It will
> curdle your milk for sure.
> Jim Hupy
>
> On Wed, May 1, 2019, 7:20 AM Dolph Santorine via Gmclist <

>
>> Thanks for the research.
>>
>> Point - change your oil. Got it.
>>
>> No experience with windmills, turbine or “terbine(sic)”, myths or
>> “mithes(sic)"
>>
>> Sorry.
>>
>>
>> Dolph
>>
>> DE AD0LF
>>
>> Wheeling, West Virginia
>>
>> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
>> Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
>>
>> “The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>>
>>>> On May 1, 2019, at 10:12 AM, Bob Dunahugh via Gmclist <

>>>
>>> I just called 3 of the largest engine rebuilders in Eastern Iowa. All 3
>> said that running oil changes over 4000 miles with any oil. Makes for great
>> income for them. I asked about older verses newer engines. As to syntetics.
>> All said that syntetics are a good idea in engines built after 1996. But it
>> still comes down to changing all oils at 3 to 4000 miles.
>>> As to mithes, and strange stories told. Iowa gets 34% of it's
>> electricity now from wind. The plan is to be close to 100% by 2030. Our
>> only atomic plant is closing next year. So wind power is a big deal here.
>> Most wind terbines are in NW Iowa. But resently it was told that the sound
>> from wind turbines cause cancer. REALLY? Interesting. Bob Dunahugh
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Bob Dunahugh
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 1:42 AM
>>> To: gmclist
>>> Subject: RE: Change your engine oil filter as GM suggested. No matter
>> the oil you use.
>>>
>>> Dolph said that with synthetics. His oil stays cleaner. Engine oil
>> decolorization comes from the byproducts of combustion. That combustion
>> in the combustion chamber is NOT an explosion. As most commonly believed.
>> It's a very controlled/complex flame front. The only way that those
>> contaminates can be reduced in our engines that we run. Is by the
>> instalation of an EFI system that has spark control. This spark control is
>> a huge part in cleaning up crankcase contamination. Without that spark
>> control. You just have an electronic Q jet.
>>> One of the jobs that oils have to do in an internal combustion engine.
>> Is to keep these crankcase contaminets in suspention. So that these
>> byproducts can be filtered out by the oil filter. I want my oil to get
>> discolored. That can mean that my crankcase is getting cleaned. Bob Dunahugh
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Bob Dunahugh
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 10:03 AM
>>> To: gmclist
>>> Subject: Change your engine oil filter as GM suggested. No matter the
>> oil you use.
>>>
>>> Back when I was in collage. Myself, and others put together a Masters
>> study on oil filters. And at the length of service. And at what point that
>> the oil filter bypass would be opened. We drilled a lot of holes in engine
>> blocks for gauges. Part of the study used cars from all of the big 3 back
>> then. I was alittle surprised how all 3 brands were so similar in bypass
>> opening. The filter medias in general. Where getting restricted to the
>> point that bypass's valves. Started at about 2400 miles. All engine where
>> equipped with PCV's installed. This is an extremely short, and general
>> e-mail of a very long review of the paper. Bob Dunahugh 78 Royale
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Bob Dunahugh
>>> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 5:09 AM
>>> To: gmclist
>>> Subject: RE: Synthetics are great. But I don't see them in our old dirty
>> engines
>>>
>>> Matt. How often do you change your oil filter? Bob D
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Bob Dunahugh
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 11:52 AM
>>> To: gmclist
>>> Subject: Synthetics are great. But I don't see them in our old dirty
>> engines
>>>
>>> I think nowadays, most manufactures recommend synthetics for the engine
>> that are produced today. Yes. Both the old/new engines have pistons that go
>> up, and down. And a crankshaft that goes round, and round. But after that.
>> It's a different world. Look how small the oil filters are. And how long
>> the oil change cycles are. These new engine run extremely clean inside the
>> crankcase. As to oil contamination.
>>> Our engine are of a different design. That produce much more of these
>> damaging crankcase oil contaminants. You help to negate some of what
>> these contaminants do to you engine. Simply by removing them by more
>> frequent oil/filter changes. Using synthetics simply doesn't change this
>> situation. I put the Howell/GM EFI system on our 403. I've noticed that my
>> oil stays cleaner, longer. But even after adding the EFI. I haven't
>> lengthened my oil change intervals. YES. I'm a NUT on oil changes. But I
>> seem to get some benefits. As an example. I have a 98 Chevy Astro that
>> was used for one of our businesses. Then our daughter used it for some
>> year. Now I'm back to using it. I like it. The interior/seats still look
>> great. Oil/filter changes have always been in the 3000 mile range. The
>> odometer is now at 324,000 miles. Hot oil PSI are at 50. Never add oil
>> between oil changes. That 4.3 Chevy V6 has never been apart for anything.
>> Always had the same old 10W-30 used in it. Planning on a trip to
>> Kansas/Oklahoma from Iowa in the next few weeks with it. As to synthetic
>> oils. Use them. Just don't go over 3000 miles on an oil change. Bob
>> Dunahugh 78 Royale
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