Caspro Evaluations

zachary zehnacker

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> 1. 6-speed automatic transmission
> 2. Electronic "fuzzy logic" shift control

Don't know. Sounds like a good idea. It is really just the switch pitch
converter from the mid '60s though. Apparently, the trans fluid can get
really hot in the high stall mode. The fuzzy logic has timers to prevent
you from staying in the high stall mode for too long, but that is really
not going to help you too much. If you needed the high stall mode, just
because you run out of time does not mean you don't still need the high
stall mode. It seems like the high stall mode could get you half way up
the hill and then you might end up in low stall even though you are not all
the way up yet. A real "6 speed" trans would not have this limitation.
If the timers give you enough time, though, the converter method might
still be a good alternative.

> 3. Power Drive 3.50

I've already given my opinion on the 3.42 final drive. I don't think it is
a good idea for a non-towing application. I'm really not even sure it is
that great an idea for towing applications. I really think we should all
just use 2nd gear a little more. Others disagree, however, and consider it
a great improvement.

I see the power drive as possibly even worse than the final drive upgrade.
It is going to increase the torque going through the trans and to the final
drive instead of reducing the load on the trans like a higher ratio final
drive would. It does allow the trans to spin a little slower than it would
with the higher ratio final drive, but I don't know if this is a good thing
or not since this will also slow down the fluid flow. This would, however,
probably result in a little better MPG than a similar ratio final drive.

> 4. 3-bearing front hubs

These haven't been out very long as far as I know. I don't see the
problems with the stock bearings, so I would have to advise against
"upgrading". From Patrick's stories about someone with "upgraded" bearings
losing a wheel, I would tend to stay away from any new bearing designs
until they have really proven themselves on someone else's GMC. I guess if
everyone felt this way, we would never get anywhere though would we! :)

> 5. Rear suspension twin stabilizer bars

We have these. This kit is very well made. How much they actually do, I
can't say for sure. They do seem to work pretty good for us. We put these
on with their shocks and have been pretty happy with the performance.

The parts we have seen from Caspro have been very well made and look very
strong. They also bolted on as advertised. There are very few things for
the GMC that are actually "bolt on" applications, but Caspro's products (at
least the ones we have purchased) are.

We have purchased things as simple as a fuel selector valve from Gateway
and numerous small things from Cinnabar that were not even close to being
simple replacements or bolt on items even though they were supposedly
"exact" replacements for the GMC. These simple things turned into major
projects because these suppliers sent us parts that performed the same
basic function as the original but did not fit like original, did not
perform the function as well as the original, and did not have any
instructions or mounts for adapting to it from the original setup. I
really don't know how Gateway expected the normal GMCer to have any use for
the fuel selector valve they sent us. We actually ended up fabricating a
mount for it ourselves. It turned out to be a waste of time though,
because we ended up taking it out after only 1 trip. We didn't like how
much it reduced the fuel flow when compared with the original.

Caspro's rear-sway bar kit, on the other hand, fit well enough and had
enough instructions to turn a major project into one that was fairly
simple. IMO, you can't ask for much more than that.

These are just my opinions,

Zak
 
Comments:

3.50 Power Drive

The Caspro power drive is a well built design. Any gear change that
gets the RPM of the motor near 2850 to 2950 rpm's allows the motor (455
& 403) to perform more efficiently. The stock 3.07 gear allow the
motors to run about 2350 rpm at 65 mph and really luggs the motor down.
I found that when I installed a 3.55 ratio final drive in my coach that
performance greatly improved and fuel mileage did really change. Could
go up grades with out being slowed down and had better trans braking on
downgrades where needed.

3 Bearing Front Hubs

Actually the 3 bearing front hubs were first offered for sale in 1985 by
Wallace Bearing and Hub Co.(1-602-294-3076) They were offered with a 5
year warranty and are a strong replacement for the original GMC unit.
The Only drawback would probably be the price. The newer front bearings
that Cinabar now sells have a 20% higher load rating than the original
bearing that were use on the coaches. It become your choice on how much
that you want to spend.

Rear Twin sway Bars

Caspro Twin rear units are well made but are more costly than other
units that are on the market. Another source would be "Rance H. Baxter"
He carries alot of GMC Equipment.

J.R. Wright
77 Eleganza II

>

> > 1. 6-speed automatic transmission
> > 2. Electronic "fuzzy logic" shift control
>
> Don't know. Sounds like a good idea. It is really just the switch pitch
> converter from the mid '60s though. Apparently, the trans fluid can get
> really hot in the high stall mode. The fuzzy logic has timers to prevent
> you from staying in the high stall mode for too long, but that is really
> not going to help you too much. If you needed the high stall mode, just
> because you run out of time does not mean you don't still need the high
> stall mode. It seems like the high stall mode could get you half way up
> the hill and then you might end up in low stall even though you are not all
> the way up yet. A real "6 speed" trans would not have this limitation.
> If the timers give you enough time, though, the converter method might
> still be a good alternative.
>
> > 3. Power Drive 3.50
>
> I've already given my opinion on the 3.42 final drive. I don't think it is
> a good idea for a non-towing application. I'm really not even sure it is
> that great an idea for towing applications. I really think we should all
> just use 2nd gear a little more. Others disagree, however, and consider it
> a great improvement.
>
> I see the power drive as possibly even worse than the final drive upgrade.
> It is going to increase the torque going through the trans and to the final
> drive instead of reducing the load on the trans like a higher ratio final
> drive would. It does allow the trans to spin a little slower than it would
> with the higher ratio final drive, but I don't know if this is a good thing
> or not since this will also slow down the fluid flow. This would, however,
> probably result in a little better MPG than a similar ratio final drive.
>
> > 4. 3-bearing front hubs
>
> These haven't been out very long as far as I know. I don't see the
> problems with the stock bearings, so I would have to advise against
> "upgrading". From Patrick's stories about someone with "upgraded" bearings
> losing a wheel, I would tend to stay away from any new bearing designs
> until they have really proven themselves on someone else's GMC. I guess if
> everyone felt this way, we would never get anywhere though would we! :)
>
> > 5. Rear suspension twin stabilizer bars
>
> We have these. This kit is very well made. How much they actually do, I
> can't say for sure. They do seem to work pretty good for us. We put these
> on with their shocks and have been pretty happy with the performance.
>
> The parts we have seen from Caspro have been very well made and look very
> strong. They also bolted on as advertised. There are very few things for
> the GMC that are actually "bolt on" applications, but Caspro's products (at
> least the ones we have purchased) are.
>
> We have purchased things as simple as a fuel selector valve from Gateway
> and numerous small things from Cinnabar that were not even close to being
> simple replacements or bolt on items even though they were supposedly
> "exact" replacements for the GMC. These simple things turned into major
> projects because these suppliers sent us parts that performed the same
> basic function as the original but did not fit like original, did not
> perform the function as well as the original, and did not have any
> instructions or mounts for adapting to it from the original setup. I
> really don't know how Gateway expected the normal GMCer to have any use for
> the fuel selector valve they sent us. We actually ended up fabricating a
> mount for it ourselves. It turned out to be a waste of time though,
> because we ended up taking it out after only 1 trip. We didn't like how
> much it reduced the fuel flow when compared with the original.
>
> Caspro's rear-sway bar kit, on the other hand, fit well enough and had
> enough instructions to turn a major project into one that was fairly
> simple. IMO, you can't ask for much more than that.
>
> These are just my opinions,
>
> Zak