Camber bolts

Keith V

Keith V

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One of my camber adjusting bolts is stripped. Ive looked around local stores and even at Rock Auto.
None to be found.
Is this something that can be found at the local junk yard?
I do see Jim K has them listed but I’d like to get this put together tomorrow.

Keith vasilakes
Microlevel
76 ex-Royale
 
Can you repair it?

Sully
Bellevue wa

>
> One of my camber adjusting bolts is stripped. Ive looked around local
> stores and even at Rock Auto.
> None to be found.
> Is this something that can be found at the local junk yard?
> I do see Jim K has them listed but I’d like to get this put together
> tomorrow.
>
> Keith vasilakes
> Microlevel
> 76 ex-Royale
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I bought a couple from DJ Eberhardt. He has the Grade8 fine thread machined bolt and tall nut. The ones you found in California look like the ones
that Moog is selling. The Moog ones have regular threads, more of the shaft machined away, and the discs do not have the radius that allow them to sit
flat on the UCA. The square edge catches on the UCA and cause them to dish before they reach the UCA and clamp; sometimes the bolts strip as well.

Maybe you can find an OEM set from a parts coach.

There's some photos in this thread: https://www.gmcmotorhome.org/threads/one-ton-front-suspension.1320/#post-10104
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Bill Van Vlack
'76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid
November 2015.
 
SAme as Toronado.
Sometimes Ford will work.

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 5:43 PM Bill Van Vlack
wrote:

> I bought a couple from DJ Eberhardt. He has the Grade8 fine thread
> machined bolt and tall nut. The ones you found in California look like the
> ones
> that Moog is selling. The Moog ones have regular threads, more of the
> shaft machined away, and the discs do not have the radius that allow them
> to sit
> flat on the UCA. The square edge catches on the UCA and cause them to dish
> before they reach the UCA and clamp; sometimes the bolts strip as well.
>
> Maybe you can find an OEM set from a parts coach.
>
> There's some photos in this thread:
> https://www.gmcmotorhome.org/threads/one-ton-front-suspension.1320/#post-10104
> --
> Bill Van Vlack
> '76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath,
> Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o
> mid
> November 2015.
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REuse the washers as the cupping is needed to fit in between the welds.

> SAme as Toronado.
> Sometimes Ford will work.
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 5:43 PM Bill Van Vlack

>
>> I bought a couple from DJ Eberhardt. He has the Grade8 fine thread
>> machined bolt and tall nut. The ones you found in California look like the
>> ones
>> that Moog is selling. The Moog ones have regular threads, more of the
>> shaft machined away, and the discs do not have the radius that allow them
>> to sit
>> flat on the UCA. The square edge catches on the UCA and cause them to
>> dish before they reach the UCA and clamp; sometimes the bolts strip as
>> well.
>>
>> Maybe you can find an OEM set from a parts coach.
>>
>> There's some photos in this thread:
>> https://www.gmcmotorhome.org/threads/one-ton-front-suspension.1320/#post-10104
>> --
>> Bill Van Vlack
>> '76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath,
>> Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o
>> mid
>> November 2015.
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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>
>
> --
> Jim Kanomata ASE
> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
> jimk
> http://www.gmcrvparts.com
> 1-800-752-7502
>

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Jim Kanomata ASE
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
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Dang,
Maybe I’ll just get a standard bolt and file one side flat, as long as it’s a common size it’s probably not that hard

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From: Jon Roche
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 7:53 PM
To: gmclist
Subject: [GMCnet] Re: Camber bolts

That is a tough one. I think that is a rare problem part. Alex F was making his own. The moog ones are junk.
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Make sur it is ASE thread and grade 8

> Dang,
> Maybe I’ll just get a standard bolt and file one side flat, as long as
> it’s a common size it’s probably not that hard
>
> Sent from Mailhttps://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 for Windows
>
> From: Jon Roche
> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 7:53 PM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: [GMCnet] Re: Camber bolts
>
> That is a tough one. I think that is a rare problem part. Alex F was
> making his own. The moog ones are junk.
> --
> Jon Roche
> 75 palm beach
> EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
> St. Cloud, MN
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Some Toronado bolt assemblies may fit in an identical manner to the TZE setup, but in my experience the design of the Toronado bolt is slightly
different. The cam nearest the bolt head is permanently mounted to the bolt so that it prevents the bolt being inserted in the normal way -or at least
that's what I found when I used one as a temporary replacement.

Maybe some years of the Toronado part is a direct replacement, but the one I got wasn't. I had to install the bolt backwards to get it to fit and
eventually got a replacement bolt from DJ.

Whatever you do, keep the original cast cams - all the aftermarket stamped ones are useless.

Larry
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1977 ex-Palm Beach "Ol' Leaky" 40,000 miles, PO said everything working but forgot the word NOT. Atwood helium fridge, water heater & furnace. SS
exhaust system, Onan, Iota Converter, R134A, New fuel lines & heat exchange hoses
 
Call DJ; he may have some advice for making your own, or can ship one out quickly.
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Bill Van Vlack
'76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid
November 2015.
 
You know why so many of those adjustment bolts are stripped? The alignment
monkeys in commercial shops use air tools on them. Replaced many, many of
them. Good ones are hard to find. Jim K. has the good ones. As does Jim
Bounds. Don't know about Cinnabar. NAPA used to have the real deal, don't
know about lately.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

> No problem using Eldorado cam and bolt roy1
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> Minden,NV
> 76 X Glenbrook
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This thread reminded me that when I finally found someone to do the
alignment several weeks ago the tech said that the bolt on the passenger
side released once on him and he did not want to torque it any more.
Figure I need to replace the bolt and totally put it out of my mind
until now.

Does anyone have a part number that can be used to find a replacement?
Or even a target year for a Toronado? I would happily buy it from Jim,
but his site says that it is unavailable and he usually is pretty up
front if he has an item to sell.

Thanks.

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> You know why so many of those adjustment bolts are stripped? The alignment
> monkeys in commercial shops use air tools on them. Replaced many, many of
> them. Good ones are hard to find. Jim K. has the good ones. As does Jim
> Bounds. Don't know about Cinnabar. NAPA used to have the real deal, don't
> know about lately.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>

>
>> No problem using Eldorado cam and bolt roy1
>> --
>> Roy Keen
>> Minden,NV
>> 76 X Glenbrook
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Actually while my mind was on it, I started digging around for the bolt
and found the following listing at NAPA:

    https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/NCP2643620?impressionRank=21

Looks like the right thing--even with the raised edges on the cam
washer. The part that worries me though is that there are no markings on
the head of the bolt to indicate that it is grade 8. I seem to recall
that no markings is grade 2. Could the bolt actually be grade 2? Seems
like it would shear pretty quickly in a suspension application.

Anyone have any knowledge about this NAPA part?

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Gerard Hickey / WTØF IRLP:3067/Echolink:529661
hickey DMR: 3102272
425-395-4554 Allstar: 531920

> This thread reminded me that when I finally found someone to do the
> alignment several weeks ago the tech said that the bolt on the
> passenger side released once on him and he did not want to torque it
> any more. Figure I need to replace the bolt and totally put it out of
> my mind until now.
>
> Does anyone have a part number that can be used to find a replacement?
> Or even a target year for a Toronado? I would happily buy it from Jim,
> but his site says that it is unavailable and he usually is pretty up
> front if he has an item to sell.
>
> Thanks.
>
 
Automotive bolts are grade 5 by nature. They go up from there.

Sully
Bellevue wa

On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 5:56 PM Gerard Hickey
wrote:

> Actually while my mind was on it, I started digging around for the bolt
> and found the following listing at NAPA:
>
> https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/NCP2643620?impressionRank=21
>
> Looks like the right thing--even with the raised edges on the cam
> washer. The part that worries me though is that there are no markings on
> the head of the bolt to indicate that it is grade 8. I seem to recall
> that no markings is grade 2. Could the bolt actually be grade 2? Seems
> like it would shear pretty quickly in a suspension application.
>
> Anyone have any knowledge about this NAPA part?
>
> --
> Gerard Hickey / WTØF IRLP:3067/Echolink:529661
> hickey DMR: 3102272
> 425-395-4554 Allstar: 531920
>

> > This thread reminded me that when I finally found someone to do the
> > alignment several weeks ago the tech said that the bolt on the
> > passenger side released once on him and he did not want to torque it
> > any more. Figure I need to replace the bolt and totally put it out of
> > my mind until now.
> >
> > Does anyone have a part number that can be used to find a replacement?
> > Or even a target year for a Toronado? I would happily buy it from Jim,
> > but his site says that it is unavailable and he usually is pretty up
> > front if he has an item to sell.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
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Call DJ; he can send you a grade 8, fine thread, tall nut, OEM sized machined flat.

https://www.djsgmc.com/default.html
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Bill Van Vlack
'76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid
November 2015.
 
Called DJ, He sent me to Cinnebar, new bolts on their way

Gitta love the GMC community!

Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View MN
76 exRoyale
MicroLevelhttp://www.gmcmotorhomemarketplace.com/vasilakes/microlevel_intro.pdf

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From: Bill Van Vlack
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2021 8:27 PM
To: gmclist
Subject: [GMCnet] Re: Camber bolts

Call DJ; he can send you a grade 8, fine thread, tall nut, OEM sized machined flat.

https://www.djsgmc.com/default.html
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Bill Van Vlack
'76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid
November 2015.
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