Terry I don't want to start a urinating contest with someone that is web
footed in Washington, but you are either misinformed or you are jerking our
chains, when you make remarks about cam shafts, duration,the quality of
camshafts on the market today, and the fact that you can find everything
Mondello says about the olds 455 in your local library. Unless of course
your local library is Joe Mondellos garage. They don't call him Dr. Olds
for nothing. If a manufacturer grinds either or both of camshaft lobes
wrong there is absolutely no way to compensate for it when degreeing the
cam. If there is please tell me how? There is no way, and I will repeat
that, NO WAY to compensate for a cam whose lobes have been ground wrong.
And do you even know which way the cam has been ground? do you know how to
check to see if each lobe duration is correct? Can you tell from the cam
tag? Does the cam grinder use the lobe center method or the lobe separation
method, and do you know how to degree each one?
Since you have installed valve seats in n olds head how thick are they and
where did you get them? I can tell you that most shops do not know.
Bottom line is that Mondello does not need anyone to stick up for him, but I
hate to see someone make remarks about him that are totally unfounded. In my
opinion he builds the most reliable olds 455 engines available today. And
please lets stop this craziness about he can produce horsepower but not
reliability????? Guess Dave Greenberg was just lucky with his Mondello engine!
Now I am off the soap box.
>
>
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>Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 09:58:22 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Tom Warner
>Subject: Re: GMC: cam timing, get the facts before you fire!
>
>I think your remarks are unfounded and totally unsubstantiated, including
>the one "Make sure all the mistakes are in your favor". Joe Mondello is one
>of the best when it comes to building engines, and especially olds 455's.
>No one makes one that puts out more Horse power.
>
>I don't want 500 hp. I want reliability.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>If you had taken the time to get a copy of his technical reference manuals
>you would get all of the answers without jumping to conclusions or starting
>more myths. In camshafts you get what you pay for, and I sure would not go
>locally to buy one unless I knew an awful lot about the person doing it.
>
>I do have his manual and every thing in it was available at the public
>library. Cam shaft grinders are internally calibrated and once they are
>installed in the shop they will turn out cams like cord wood. It's not
>necessary to know how many kids he has or what he takes in his coffee.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>Want to start a real controversy, take your olds heads to your local
>machine shop and ask them to recondition them. After they say they can,
>have them explain how they will do it. Than ask them if they can put in
>hardened valve seats and when they say sure, ask them how thick they are.
>Tell me what they say for the valve seats.
>
>I have, And any of the competent shops already know about that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
>The problem is not with Mondello it is how you ask the questions. They are
>not mind readers.
>
>I agree. But when someone says that everyone else's cams are 6 degrees off
>when you know it is easy to compensate for is not exactly Kosher. It's the
>kind of statement a person makes to sell you something You don't need.
>
>Our objective is to get enough information so that we can make intelligent
>decisions. I assure you that I am interested in what you and everyone else
>has to say.
>
>Terry Skinner
>Webfooted in Washington
>'76 Glenbrook
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Tom & Marg Warner
Vernon Center NY
1976 palmbeach
"The beautiful Mohawk Vally"
footed in Washington, but you are either misinformed or you are jerking our
chains, when you make remarks about cam shafts, duration,the quality of
camshafts on the market today, and the fact that you can find everything
Mondello says about the olds 455 in your local library. Unless of course
your local library is Joe Mondellos garage. They don't call him Dr. Olds
for nothing. If a manufacturer grinds either or both of camshaft lobes
wrong there is absolutely no way to compensate for it when degreeing the
cam. If there is please tell me how? There is no way, and I will repeat
that, NO WAY to compensate for a cam whose lobes have been ground wrong.
And do you even know which way the cam has been ground? do you know how to
check to see if each lobe duration is correct? Can you tell from the cam
tag? Does the cam grinder use the lobe center method or the lobe separation
method, and do you know how to degree each one?
Since you have installed valve seats in n olds head how thick are they and
where did you get them? I can tell you that most shops do not know.
Bottom line is that Mondello does not need anyone to stick up for him, but I
hate to see someone make remarks about him that are totally unfounded. In my
opinion he builds the most reliable olds 455 engines available today. And
please lets stop this craziness about he can produce horsepower but not
reliability????? Guess Dave Greenberg was just lucky with his Mondello engine!
Now I am off the soap box.
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 09:58:22 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Tom Warner
>Subject: Re: GMC: cam timing, get the facts before you fire!
>
>I think your remarks are unfounded and totally unsubstantiated, including
>the one "Make sure all the mistakes are in your favor". Joe Mondello is one
>of the best when it comes to building engines, and especially olds 455's.
>No one makes one that puts out more Horse power.
>
>I don't want 500 hp. I want reliability.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>If you had taken the time to get a copy of his technical reference manuals
>you would get all of the answers without jumping to conclusions or starting
>more myths. In camshafts you get what you pay for, and I sure would not go
>locally to buy one unless I knew an awful lot about the person doing it.
>
>I do have his manual and every thing in it was available at the public
>library. Cam shaft grinders are internally calibrated and once they are
>installed in the shop they will turn out cams like cord wood. It's not
>necessary to know how many kids he has or what he takes in his coffee.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>Want to start a real controversy, take your olds heads to your local
>machine shop and ask them to recondition them. After they say they can,
>have them explain how they will do it. Than ask them if they can put in
>hardened valve seats and when they say sure, ask them how thick they are.
>Tell me what they say for the valve seats.
>
>I have, And any of the competent shops already know about that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
>The problem is not with Mondello it is how you ask the questions. They are
>not mind readers.
>
>I agree. But when someone says that everyone else's cams are 6 degrees off
>when you know it is easy to compensate for is not exactly Kosher. It's the
>kind of statement a person makes to sell you something You don't need.
>
>Our objective is to get enough information so that we can make intelligent
>decisions. I assure you that I am interested in what you and everyone else
>has to say.
>
>Terry Skinner
>Webfooted in Washington
>'76 Glenbrook
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Tom & Marg Warner
Vernon Center NY
1976 palmbeach
"The beautiful Mohawk Vally"
