Cab headliner pictures and driver's side wall

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Hello again.

Arch sent me some pictures of the interior structure of his coach -
driver's side and cab headliner. You can see his pictures at
www.henry-davis.com/GMC as part of the entire coach interior.

I've also added a picture of the tail light assembly with the trim removed.
You can gently pry the trim from behind the lens assembly with a flat
bladed screw driver. If you're careful, there will be almost no damage to
the trim.

My new lens screw holes don't match the old mounting holes. Now I need to
decide what to do - the old lenses won't fit and the new ones can't be
attached.

I'll let you know later what I decide - any suggestions welcome!

Henry

Henry Davis Consulting, Inc / new product consulting
PO Box 1270 / product readiness reviews
Soquel, Ca 95073 / IP reviews
ph: (831) 462-5199 / full service marketing
fax: (831) 462-5198
http://www.henry-davis.com/ http://www.henry-davis.com
 
Henry, Checked out photos. Good info. I'm about down to that stage myself
and plan to stuff every crack and crevice I can access with fiberglass
insulation or foam those NOT used as chases or electrical races with Great
Stuff to try to get better insulation characteristics in the coach.
Except for year, your coach and mine look to be identical.
I noted that your plactic window moldings looked unfaded (whiter). Mine
look like hell (faded) and was wondering if painting them was a viable
option. If than cannot be done, I've been thinking about fabricating new
pieces from thin maple slats (my sons are in the wooden flooring business
and have access to tons of left over maple and oak product in various
thicknesses) using the old pieces as templates, leaving them natural with a
few coats of spar or urethane varnish.
Thanks for the info.
BTW, what WAS that black material Arch used in his coach.
Dick 75 PB in Atlanta

>Hello again.
>
>Arch sent me some pictures of the interior structure of his coach -
>driver's side and cab headliner. You can see his pictures at
>www.henry-davis.com/GMC as part of the entire coach interior.
>
>I've also added a picture of the tail light assembly with the trim removed.
>You can gently pry the trim from behind the lens assembly with a flat
>bladed screw driver. If you're careful, there will be almost no damage to
>the trim.
>
>My new lens screw holes don't match the old mounting holes. Now I need to
>decide what to do - the old lenses won't fit and the new ones can't be
>attached.
>
>I'll let you know later what I decide - any suggestions welcome!
>
>Henry
>
>Henry Davis Consulting, Inc / new product consulting
>PO Box 1270 / product readiness reviews
>Soquel, Ca 95073 / IP reviews
>ph: (831) 462-5199 / full service marketing
>fax: (831) 462-5198
>http://www.henry-davis.com/ http://www.henry-davis.com
>
>
 
Richard, We removed all of our window trim, front and rear
inner caps, filled all unwanted holes with Bondo, and then
purchased Dupont Vinyl Color in a medium gloss that matched
the original white color, the cost was about $42 a quart, we
used 2 quarts to refinish all interior vinyl, this can be
purchased at automotive paint stores, and sprayed with
automotive spray gun. Hope you find this info useful.
Ken & Virginia Fitzgerald
75GB OKLA

>
> Henry, Checked out photos. Good info. I'm about down to that stage myself
> and plan to stuff every crack and crevice I can access with fiberglass
> insulation or foam those NOT used as chases or electrical races with Great
> Stuff to try to get better insulation characteristics in the coach.
> Except for year, your coach and mine look to be identical.
> I noted that your plactic window moldings looked unfaded (whiter). Mine
> look like hell (faded) and was wondering if painting them was a viable
> option. If than cannot be done, I've been thinking about fabricating new
> pieces from thin maple slats (my sons are in the wooden flooring business
> and have access to tons of left over maple and oak product in various
> thicknesses) using the old pieces as templates, leaving them natural with a
> few coats of spar or urethane varnish.
> Thanks for the info.
> BTW, what WAS that black material Arch used in his coach.
> Dick 75 PB in Atlanta
>

> >Hello again.
> >
> >Arch sent me some pictures of the interior structure of his coach -
> >driver's side and cab headliner. You can see his pictures at
> >www.henry-davis.com/GMC as part of the entire coach interior.
> >
> >I've also added a picture of the tail light assembly with the trim removed.
> >You can gently pry the trim from behind the lens assembly with a flat
> >bladed screw driver. If you're careful, there will be almost no damage to
> >the trim.
> >
> >My new lens screw holes don't match the old mounting holes. Now I need to
> >decide what to do - the old lenses won't fit and the new ones can't be
> >attached.
> >
> >I'll let you know later what I decide - any suggestions welcome!
> >
> >Henry
> >
> >Henry Davis Consulting, Inc / new product consulting
> >PO Box 1270 / product readiness reviews
> >Soquel, Ca 95073 / IP reviews
> >ph: (831) 462-5199 / full service marketing
> >fax: (831) 462-5198
> >http://www.henry-davis.com/ http://www.henry-davis.com
> >
> >
 
>Except for year, your coach and mine look to be identical.
>I noted that your plactic window moldings looked unfaded (whiter).

They're actually yellowed from age. I called Cinnabar and they have the
original window moldings available - I don't recall the price, but I'll
probably replace the moldings.

Mine
>look like hell (faded) and was wondering if painting them was a viable
>option. If than cannot be done, I've been thinking about fabricating new
>pieces from thin maple slats (my sons are in the wooden flooring business
>and have access to tons of left over maple and oak product in various
>thicknesses) using the old pieces as templates, leaving them natural with a
>few coats of spar or urethane varnish.

That could look very nice I think. We'll go with lighter colors to open up
the interior. We looked in a number of coaches at the Casa de Fruta rally
and universally the larger looking coaches had more light colors used.

>Thanks for the info.
>BTW, what WAS that black material Arch used in his coach.

I'm not certain. It looks like a Cellotex material to me though.

Henry

Henry Davis Consulting, Inc / new product consulting
PO Box 1270 / product readiness reviews
Soquel, Ca 95073 / IP reviews
ph: (831) 462-5199 / full service marketing
fax: (831) 462-5198
http://www.henry-davis.com/ http://www.henry-davis.com
 
There is another product you can use. It's Bri-Top vinyl color by Mar-hyde,
manufactured by the Talsol Corp. It is applied with a foam type brush and
looks undetectable when finished (i. e. dry). It's usually available at
stores handling auto body repair finishing products.

I'm told that it is also in spray can form and is sold at Pep-Boys.

It claims to be friction-proof, resistant to fading and abrasion from normal
washing, non-flammable, odorless, fast-drying, long lasting, water base and
safe.

One individual I know used it on his whole dash and it looks like a factory
application.

Paul Bartz

From: Gcbr [mailto:Gcbr]
Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: GMC: Cab headliner pictures and driver's side wall

Dick
When I started this project my trim around the windows was a pinkish
brown----very faded very ugly. Sometime ago someone told me about "Vinyl
Dye." I had never heard of it let alone use some of it. The stuff is
great!!! My rear end cap was a mess-ugly and brown. Took it all out
- ---repaired it with fiberglass and Bondo. I was a little concerned that the
dye would cover the green fiberglass. No problem it worked great. I then
painted all of the trim pieces. Great there too. Patrick has pictures of all
of this. The stuff I used was Plasti-Kote Vinyl Color---- white.
About $6 a can. It took 8 cans to do the endcap and trim. It is a little
tricky to use. Once you get the hang of it -----you will do just fine.
Learn to put on just a thin coat---it wont hide much-dont worry this is
going to take awhile. I practiced by doing the back side of my endcap
first. If you put on enough to hide a spot of Bondo it is going to run.
Just mist it. The stuff seems real well bonded to the surface. While
putting the endcap back on I got one of those ugly black skid marks from my
rubber mallet. I scrubbed it with soap and water with a scrub brush.
Finally got the scuff mark out------I was surprised to see that there was no
problem with the dye. I found that acetone cleaned every thing the best. I
also found that Lowe's has vinyl gloves which I had much better luck with
than the latex ones. Thats what I did.
Arch
In a message dated 5/17/99 11:03:05 AM Central Daylight Time,

Except for year, your coach and mine look to be identical.
I noted that your plactic window moldings looked unfaded (whiter). Mine
look like hell (faded) and was wondering if painting them was a viable
option. If than cannot be done, I've been thinking about fabricating new
pieces from thin maple slats (my sons are in the wooden flooring business
and have access to tons of left over maple and oak product in various
thicknesses) using the old pieces as templates, leaving them natural with a
few coats of spar or urethane varnish.
Dick 75 PB in Atlanta
 
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> I've also added a picture of the tail light assembly with the trim
removed.
> You can gently pry the trim from behind the lens assembly with a flat
> bladed screw driver. If you're careful, there will be almost no damage to
> the trim.
>
> My new lens screw holes don't match the old mounting holes. Now I need to
> decide what to do - the old lenses won't fit and the new ones can't be
> attached.
>
> I'll let you know later what I decide - any suggestions welcome!
>
> Henry
>

Henry,

I installed new style tail light lens last week. Mine lined up OK using the
existing outer holes. I drilled new inner holes.

Don Miller
75 Glennbrook
Shenandoah Valley of Virginia
 
Thanks. Will give it a try.
Dick 75 PB in Atlanta

>Richard, We removed all of our window trim, front and rear
>inner caps, filled all unwanted holes with Bondo, and then
>purchased Dupont Vinyl Color in a medium gloss that matched
>the original white color, the cost was about $42 a quart, we
>used 2 quarts to refinish all interior vinyl, this can be
>purchased at automotive paint stores, and sprayed with
>automotive spray gun. Hope you find this info useful.
>Ken & Virginia Fitzgerald
>75GB OKLA
>

>>
>> Henry, Checked out photos. Good info. I'm about down to that stage myself
>> and plan to stuff every crack and crevice I can access with fiberglass
>> insulation or foam those NOT used as chases or electrical races with Great
>> Stuff to try to get better insulation characteristics in the coach.
>> Except for year, your coach and mine look to be identical.
>> I noted that your plactic window moldings looked unfaded (whiter). Mine
>> look like hell (faded) and was wondering if painting them was a viable
>> option. If than cannot be done, I've been thinking about fabricating new
>> pieces from thin maple slats (my sons are in the wooden flooring business
>> and have access to tons of left over maple and oak product in various
>> thicknesses) using the old pieces as templates, leaving them natural with a
>> few coats of spar or urethane varnish.
>> Thanks for the info.
>> BTW, what WAS that black material Arch used in his coach.
>> Dick 75 PB in Atlanta
>>

>> >Hello again.
>> >
>> >Arch sent me some pictures of the interior structure of his coach -
>> >driver's side and cab headliner. You can see his pictures at
>> >www.henry-davis.com/GMC as part of the entire coach interior.
>> >
>> >I've also added a picture of the tail light assembly with the trim removed.
>> >You can gently pry the trim from behind the lens assembly with a flat
>> >bladed screw driver. If you're careful, there will be almost no damage to
>> >the trim.
>> >
>> >My new lens screw holes don't match the old mounting holes. Now I need to
>> >decide what to do - the old lenses won't fit and the new ones can't be
>> >attached.
>> >
>> >I'll let you know later what I decide - any suggestions welcome!
>> >
>> >Henry
>> >
>> >Henry Davis Consulting, Inc / new product consulting
>> >PO Box 1270 / product readiness reviews
>> >Soquel, Ca 95073 / IP reviews
>> >ph: (831) 462-5199 / full service marketing
>> >fax: (831) 462-5198
>> >http://www.henry-davis.com/ http://www.henry-davis.com
>> >
>> >
>
 
Arch:
thanks for the pictures of the cab liner. I installed a new mirror with temp
and compass
reading and understand now why I had a difficult time "fishing the wires thru.
Just a thought and the window fogging. I was able to find a stone chip in the
window and the
insurance company I dealt with actually paid to replace both front windows so
they would
match.

Phil \
78 royale
 
Henry,

The pictures you have posted showing the tail light upgrade and Arch's
interior structure were terrific. Unfortunately, I didn't get to look at
all of them the first time around, and now I can't down load ANY pictures
from your site. Am I the only one having this trouble?

Also, wouldn't it be a valuable reference to have a full set of images of
the "gutted" interior structure? If the full set could be maintained as
part of someone's curent site, it would be a big assist those undertaking
interior modifications.

Any body want to accept this challenge?

___________
Dave (& Dege), '76 Royale /_][__] [_] | "SR JAMES"
Santa Barbara, CA *0-------OO--* (our hobby)
 
>Henry,
>
>The pictures you have posted showing the tail light upgrade and Arch's
>interior structure were terrific. Unfortunately, I didn't get to look at
>all of them the first time around, and now I can't down load ANY pictures
>from your site. Am I the only one having this trouble?

I've tried from two different accounts and they load OK. Let me know if
you're still having problems.

>
>Also, wouldn't it be a valuable reference to have a full set of images of
>the "gutted" interior structure? If the full set could be maintained as
>part of someone's curent site, it would be a big assist those undertaking
>interior modifications.
>
>Any body want to accept this challenge?

That's where I'me trying to get! Anybody with more interior pictures let me
know - mine will go up as I do the interior.

Henry

Henry Davis Consulting, Inc / new product consulting
PO Box 1270 / product readiness reviews
Soquel, Ca 95073 / IP reviews
ph: (831) 462-5199 / full service marketing
fax: (831) 462-5198
http://www.henry-davis.com/ http://www.henry-davis.com
 
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