broke down on side of road, please help! (seattle wa)

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So I finally pulled out the gmc from storage. I got her started with some fresh gas and drove her from Everett to Seattle (28 miles). She sat behind
my work while we bled the brakes and checked the airbags. They held air and 3 weeks later I decided to drive it to a friends house (10 miles). I
filled her with 8 gallons of fresh gas and we headed out. During an incline she sputtered and died. Would not restart. So I put more gas (2 gallons)
and she still wouldnt start. We decided to pull the fuel filter and it looked fine. Gas was not pumping out the hose. Upton trying to reinstall the
hardware the nut must have crossed threaded. So getting the line back onto the filter is not possible. It sits there now. What should I do??
--
1977 Palm beach
Bham AL
 
Which piece is stripped. The carb threads, the filter housing threads, or the threads on the fuel line?
--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
Al where are you now

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> So I finally pulled out the gmc from storage. I got her started with some fresh gas and drove her from Everett to Seattle (28 miles). She sat behind
> my work while we bled the brakes and checked the airbags. They held air and 3 weeks later I decided to drive it to a friends house (10 miles). I
> filled her with 8 gallons of fresh gas and we headed out. During an incline she sputtered and died. Would not restart. So I put more gas (2 gallons)
> and she still wouldnt start. We decided to pull the fuel filter and it looked fine. Gas was not pumping out the hose. Upton trying to reinstall the
> hardware the nut must have crossed threaded. So getting the line back onto the filter is not possible. It sits there now. What should I do??
> --
> 1977 Palm beach
> Bham AL
>
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quickest way would be to get a new fuel line from Jim K like someone posted.

be really careful about treading the filter housing into the Q-jet. you DO NOT want to strip the treads out in the carb body.

a good carb shop maybe can help you out locally, but what you may need is here:

https://quadrajetparts.com/quadrajet-inlet-fittings-c-128_27.html

a trick is to loosen up the 4 carb to manifold bolts to allow for easier lining up of the fuel line threads.

--
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
 
So where is the coach sitting now?

Sully
Bellevue wa

> So I finally pulled out the gmc from storage. I got her started with some
> fresh gas and drove her from Everett to Seattle (28 miles). She sat behind
> my work while we bled the brakes and checked the airbags. They held air
> and 3 weeks later I decided to drive it to a friends house (10 miles). I
> filled her with 8 gallons of fresh gas and we headed out. During an
> incline she sputtered and died. Would not restart. So I put more gas (2
> gallons)
> and she still wouldnt start. We decided to pull the fuel filter and it
> looked fine. Gas was not pumping out the hose. Upton trying to reinstall the
> hardware the nut must have crossed threaded. So getting the line back onto
> the filter is not possible. It sits there now. What should I do??
> --
> 1977 Palm beach
> Bham AL
>
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If you stripped out the threads in the carb, you have a problem. Not an
impossible one, but a difficult one to resolve. There is available from
TOMCO and others, an oversize self tapping filter housing that can be
fitted. If you are smart, you will remove the carb from the engine to
repair it, as you are only going to get one shot at threading the oversize
fitting into place. You cross this one up, like the original, and you can
throw away the carb body and start over. Pot metal is a most unforgiving
material when new, and when it gets 40 years old and half eaten away by
corrosion, all bets are off. Complicate that by trying to manipulate the
rigid fuel line already attached to the filter housing, and you are primed
for disaster. If you start to lose your patience while working on this set
up, walk away. One extra tug on that wrench can mean hours of work extra.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

> Jim K sells the filter housing too.
>
> http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1014
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
> Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive,
> Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American
> Eagles,
> Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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For those folks suggesting a phone call to someone (vendor or possible samaritan) it would definitely be a great kindness to include the phone number of the possible help. This is especially pertinent in the case of "newbies" who have not yet built a personal directory of resources!

Mac Macdonald in OKC, OK
1976 ex-Palm Beach
"The Money Pit"

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Id call Jim K and have him overnight a new fuel line from the pump to the carb. Ask him to throw in a few more filters to the box.

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77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy.
Mid Michigan

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You need to learn to break loose the nut and loosen the filter housing
first then the 4 bolts of and push the carb back to allow space to work w/o
stripping the carb.
Don't tell me the filter is clean by looking at it, as the amoint of Guie
snot in the fuel from top of the tank is in the fuel and now pluging it up.
It could alo be a ruptured fuel pump diaphram.
It is rubber and old and the ethanal is eating it. Replace it if it has not
been done in the last few years.

> If you stripped out the threads in the carb, you have a problem. Not an
> impossible one, but a difficult one to resolve. There is available from
> TOMCO and others, an oversize self tapping filter housing that can be
> fitted. If you are smart, you will remove the carb from the engine to
> repair it, as you are only going to get one shot at threading the oversize
> fitting into place. You cross this one up, like the original, and you can
> throw away the carb body and start over. Pot metal is a most unforgiving
> material when new, and when it gets 40 years old and half eaten away by
> corrosion, all bets are off. Complicate that by trying to manipulate the
> rigid fuel line already attached to the filter housing, and you are primed
> for disaster. If you start to lose your patience while working on this set
> up, walk away. One extra tug on that wrench can mean hours of work extra.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>

>
> > Jim K sells the filter housing too.
> >
> > http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1014
> > --
> > Carl Stouffer
> > '75 ex Palm Beach
> > Tucson, AZ.
> > Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive,
> > Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American
> > Eagles,
> > Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
> >
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Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
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1-800-752-7502
 
Thank you for all the replies. Thankfully I live in Seattle now so the coach doesn't have to make a gurelling journey back south. I'll get those parts
ordered!
--
1977 Palm beach
Bham AL
 
On my carbureted GMC, I loosened the four carb mounting bolts so it would shift a bit and align with the fuel line fitting. Don't forget to tighten
them aftwerwards!

--johnny
--
76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
 
Johny,
I think you need to do at least 3 as the back will nor shift.
Not trying to be smart ass.
I make worse statements that ge me into trouble.

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:38 AM, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <

> On my carbureted GMC, I loosened the four carb mounting bolts so it would
> shift a bit and align with the fuel line fitting. Don't forget to tighten
> them aftwerwards!
>
> --johnny
> --
> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
>
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Jim Kanomata
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jimk
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1-800-752-7502
 
Or loosen fuel pump fitting works pretty good

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>
> On my carbureted GMC, I loosened the four carb mounting bolts so it would shift a bit and align with the fuel line fitting. Don't forget to tighten
> them aftwerwards!
>
> --johnny
> --
> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
>
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I'm not too keen on loosening the mechanical fuel pump hold down bolts. You
might risk tearing the gasket under the pump, and causing an oil leak. Seen
a bunch of them leak oil there. But, loosening the line fittings should
accomplish almost the same thing, and they are easily tightened up.
Carb base gaskets are usually not sealed down and are frequently a
very thick dense material that can be retightened several times without
leaking air around the carb base. That would be my first choice.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or

> Or loosen fuel pump fitting works pretty good
>
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> > On Aug 7, 2018, at 6:38 AM, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <

> >
> > On my carbureted GMC, I loosened the four carb mounting bolts so it
> would shift a bit and align with the fuel line fitting. Don't forget to
> tighten
> > them aftwerwards!
> >
> > --johnny
> > --
> > 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> > Braselton, Ga.
> > "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to
> me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
> >
> >
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I find it unlikely you stripped the harder fuel line flair nut instead if the softer inlet housing, but possible I guess. Not knowing how much fuel is
really in tanks and how steep the hill, 2 gallons is a bit like spitting into the ocean. May need 20 or so if steep.
--
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
 
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