Ball Joints

[chuck will]

In ref. to Emry's thoughts on his MOOG Ball Joints. I had a couple put
in before the trip to Utah when I broke down with the engine problems.
I have had the vehicle on the road for another 1500 miles and had the
ball joints inspected by Waynes who did the work. They certified that
they were all ok. I have 2400 on the ball joints at this time. In
talking with Chuck Stoddard on the email he suggested the tack weld on
the heads and that if they needed to be taken off there would be no
problem. Waynes did not want to do the tack weld and assured me they
would be ok. Well here I am and not sure to do the tack or not. Chuck
Lompoc

 

[thomas g. warner]

When adn if I have to replace my ball joints I intend to use the green
thread locker.

>In ref. to Emry's thoughts on his MOOG Ball Joints. I had a couple put
>in before the trip to Utah when I broke down with the engine problems.
>I have had the vehicle on the road for another 1500 miles and had the
>ball joints inspected by Waynes who did the work. They certified that
>they were all ok. I have 2400 on the ball joints at this time. In
>talking with Chuck Stoddard on the email he suggested the tack weld on
>the heads and that if they needed to be taken off there would be no
>problem. Waynes did not want to do the tack weld and assured me they
>would be ok. Well here I am and not sure to do the tack or not. Chuck
>Lompoc
>
>
>
Tom & Marg Warner
Vernon Center NY
1976 palmbeach

 

[samuel pickens]

Hi all,

I'm back on the list. Haven't been on for a few months. The GMC gets into
your blood I think - anyway, it has become a way of life for me to a large
extent.

I NEED HELP! Anyone have information on the hot water heater 26' side bath
on right; (6 gal unit). I'm in dire need and remember someone now producing
a SS unit from old communications. As I remember they had an immediate
contact number and would accept VISA and ship next day? I need ASAP:
picksam or P/F Hm. 304-684-0076, O 304-652-8388. Thanks in
advance.

Now, regarding welding those ball joint bolts - I wouldn't. The bolt is
designed (especially grade 8) to hold that load. Welding alters the temper
and strength and could even damage the bolt. Locking the nut is the only
option from my point of view.

Wheel bearings: one must be careful when doing by feel. I'm a consulting
engineering (site; www.lacrew.com/pdm) and deal in bearing analysis and
calculations. One must go to the books. A stationary inner ring usually has
a zero fit and can be slipped on, no interference fit -- no so with the
rotating inner ring. The rotating inner ring has an interference fit, but as
will most all things, those fits have tolerance limits (upper and lower):
'feel' isn't a subsitute for measuring with micrometers. When both inner
and outter rings rotate as part of the operational process then one usually
has to make those calculations on his or her own. Those data and information
are usually propriority and not generally published.

My $0.02 worth. Thanks for the help in advance.

Regards,

Sam Pickens

 

[david sandford]

Chuck / Emory

I wouldn't recommend tacking them. Emory is on the right track, the bolts
are designed to withstand the load. Heating the bolts, by tacking them, can
potentially weaken them, by altering the crystal structure, and destroying
the temper or the bolts. The potential exists for actually increasing the
likelihood of failure.

Good Luck

Dave

- -----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Will
To: gmcmotorhome
Date: Saturday, February 13, 1999 09:07 PM
Subject: GMC: Ball Joints

>In ref. to Emry's thoughts on his MOOG Ball Joints. I had a couple put
>in before the trip to Utah when I broke down with the engine problems.
>I have had the vehicle on the road for another 1500 miles and had the
>ball joints inspected by Waynes who did the work. They certified that
>they were all ok. I have 2400 on the ball joints at this time. In
>talking with Chuck Stoddard on the email he suggested the tack weld on
>the heads and that if they needed to be taken off there would be no
>problem. Waynes did not want to do the tack weld and assured me they
>would be ok. Well here I am and not sure to do the tack or not. Chuck
>Lompoc
>
>

 

[mr.c]

Jim DeMaere PH 403-329-3091 makes new stainless steel... Great with instruction
on how to remove the old one. Call him
Al Chernoff
77 Eleganza II

> Hi all,
>
> I'm back on the list. Haven't been on for a few months. The GMC gets into
> your blood I think - anyway, it has become a way of life for me to a large
> extent.
>
> I NEED HELP! Anyone have information on the hot water heater 26' side bath
> on right; (6 gal unit). I'm in dire need and remember someone now producing
> a SS unit from old communications. As I remember they had an immediate
> contact number and would accept VISA and ship next day? I need ASAP:
> picksam or P/F Hm. 304-684-0076, O 304-652-8388. Thanks in
> advance.
>
> Now, regarding welding those ball joint bolts - I wouldn't. The bolt is
> designed (especially grade 8) to hold that load. Welding alters the temper
> and strength and could even damage the bolt. Locking the nut is the only
> option from my point of view.
>
> Wheel bearings: one must be careful when doing by feel. I'm a consulting
> engineering (site; www.lacrew.com/pdm) and deal in bearing analysis and
> calculations. One must go to the books. A stationary inner ring usually has
> a zero fit and can be slipped on, no interference fit -- no so with the
> rotating inner ring. The rotating inner ring has an interference fit, but as
> will most all things, those fits have tolerance limits (upper and lower):
> 'feel' isn't a subsitute for measuring with micrometers. When both inner
> and outter rings rotate as part of the operational process then one usually
> has to make those calculations on his or her own. Those data and information
> are usually propriority and not generally published.
>
> My $0.02 worth. Thanks for the help in advance.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sam Pickens

 

[thomas g. warner]

But are they Moog ball joints?

>I got the numbers for the ball joints from Gene Fishers site
>took them to PEPBOYS
>K-6125 $68.35
>K-5238 $44.67
>much better prices than Gateway
>1310, same as K-6125 $89.50
>1311, same as K-5238 $56.75
>I need 2 of each. If I only neede one, I would buy it from Gateway but in this
>case.
>
>Manny 73 Custom/ex-Glacier
>
>
Tom & Marg Warner
Vernon Center NY
1976 palmbeach