Automatic leveling system?

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dave silva

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slowly recovering from covid i have WAY more mental than physical energy.

So I got thinking about a way to automatically level the coach.

I'm thinking a plumb bob hanging between four contacts that completes the path to ground for solenoids to release air on the front side and solenoids
to add air to the bags on the aft side.

When the plumb (or the bob?) is centered it makes no contact and the coach is level (assuming you get the front wheels pretty close).

The whole thing could go in a bit of PVC pipe and the length would determine the sensitivity.

Seems simple, i can't be the first person to think of this.

--
Dave & Ellen Silva

1972 Revcon Olds 455, toro drive train. All Stock
 
Hardly worth the effort. Just put a hoppy level on the front side of the refer cabinet and one on the front. It only takes a couple of minutes to
level especially if the bags are full from the start of leveling.
--
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
 
> Hardly worth the effort. Just put a hoppy level on the front side of the refer cabinet and one on the front. It only takes a couple of minutes to
> level especially if the bags are full from the start of leveling.

I knew somebody would say that :)

But really, 50 years of modifying these things, can we honestly say all of those mods were "worth the effort"

--
Dave & Ellen Silva

1972 Revcon Olds 455, toro drive train. All Stock
 
Microlevel is a system that Keith Vasilakes manufactures.

It does campsite and travel level with incredible accuracy.

http://www.gmcmotorhomemarketplace.com/vasilakes/microlevel_install-operation.pdf

It’s one of the top five enhancements I’ve made to the coach.

Dolph Santorine

DE AD0LF

Wheeling, West Virginia

1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
Howell EFI/EBL , Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission

>

>> Hardly worth the effort. Just put a hoppy level on the front side of the refer cabinet and one on the front. It only takes a couple of minutes to
>> level especially if the bags are full from the start of leveling.
>
> I knew somebody would say that :)
>
> But really, 50 years of modifying these things, can we honestly say all of those mods were "worth the effort"
>
>
>
> --
> Dave & Ellen Silva
>
> 1972 Revcon Olds 455, toro drive train. All Stock
>
>
>
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Glad to hear from a happy Microlevel user. That moves it up onto the
short-list for me.

-Zandr

73 de N6MOD

> Microlevel is a system that Keith Vasilakes manufactures.
>
> It does campsite and travel level with incredible accuracy.
>
> http://www.gmcmotorhomemarketplace.com/vasilakes/microlevel_install-operation.pdf
>
> It’s one of the top five enhancements I’ve made to the coach.
>
> Dolph Santorine
>
> DE AD0LF
>
> Wheeling, West Virginia
>
> 1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
> Howell EFI/EBL , Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
>
>

>>

>>> Hardly worth the effort. Just put a hoppy level on the front side of the refer cabinet and one on the front. It only takes a couple of minutes to
>>> level especially if the bags are full from the start of leveling.
>> I knew somebody would say that :)
>>
>> But really, 50 years of modifying these things, can we honestly say all of those mods were "worth the effort"
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave & Ellen Silva
>>
>> 1972 Revcon Olds 455, toro drive train. All Stock
>>
>>
>>
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Sounds like a "tilt" mechanism from a pinball machine might work.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, 9:43 AM Zandr Milewski via Gmclist <

> Glad to hear from a happy Microlevel user. That moves it up onto the
> short-list for me.
>
> -Zandr
>
> 73 de N6MOD
>

> > Microlevel is a system that Keith Vasilakes manufactures.
> >
> > It does campsite and travel level with incredible accuracy.
> >
> >
> http://www.gmcmotorhomemarketplace.com/vasilakes/microlevel_install-operation.pdf
> >
> > It’s one of the top five enhancements I’ve made to the coach.
> >
> > Dolph Santorine
> >
> > DE AD0LF
> >
> > Wheeling, West Virginia
> >
> > 1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
> > Howell EFI/EBL , Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 12:24 PM, dave silva via Gmclist <

> >>

> >>> Hardly worth the effort. Just put a hoppy level on the front side of
> the refer cabinet and one on the front. It only takes a couple of minutes to
> >>> level especially if the bags are full from the start of leveling.
> >> I knew somebody would say that :)
> >>
> >> But really, 50 years of modifying these things, can we honestly say all
> of those mods were "worth the effort"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dave & Ellen Silva
> >>
> >> 1972 Revcon Olds 455, toro drive train. All Stock
> >>
> >>
> >>
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That is exactly how a tilt switch worked on realay type pin ball machines. The plumb bob part was conical with a vertical rod through it and a set
screw so you could move it up and down to change the sensitivity. When I was in my teens almost 60 years ago, I had a bunch of those. Me and a
friend use to pick up old pin ball machines and strip them for parts or fix them.
--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
Yes. Microlevel does the job.

Press of a single button and it levels the coach. Press the other button and it sets to ride height.

Has a nice remote that I pull out and use when dumping black tank(squat the rear of coach). or getting gas(tilt coach to passenger side for better
Filling)

Working on other coaches. It is nice to have good air compressor(big viair) and the new lines and valves. Changes in height are fairly quick.

Working on another coach with an oem comprssor it works, but takes minutes to lift and complete changes. Not seconds.
--
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
 
Didn’t mean to take the wind out of your sails . My gmc was easier to level just by using the hoppy levels then leveling my diesel pusher with the
auto level system because I usually end up still adjusting it a bit after it auto levels. Hard to beat the early gmc level system with JR’s bullit
proof valves
--
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
 
> Microlevel is a system that Keith Vasilakes manufactures.
>
> It does campsite and travel level with incredible accuracy.
>
> http://www.gmcmotorhomemarketplace.com/vasilakes/microlevel_install-operation.pdf
>
> It’s one of the top five enhancements I’ve made to the coach.
>
> Dolph Santorine
>
> DE AD0LF
>
> Wheeling, West Virginia
>
> 1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
> Howell EFI/EBL , Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
>
>

> >

> >> Hardly worth the effort. Just put a hoppy level on the front side of the refer cabinet and one on the front. It only takes a couple of minutes
> to
> >> level especially if the bags are full from the start of leveling.
> >
> > I knew somebody would say that :)
> >
> > But really, 50 years of modifying these things, can we honestly say all of those mods were "worth the effort"
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dave & Ellen Silva
> >
> > 1972 Revcon Olds 455, toro drive train. All Stock
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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To enhance this post, click the following link for more detail including price, user manual and wiring schematic:
https://www.gmcmi.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/microlevel-intro-vasilakes.pdf

--
Ed Clerkin | 1974 GMC Canyon Lands 26’
Central Coast CA
 
Who sells this piece of equipment?

>
>

> > Microlevel is a system that Keith Vasilakes manufactures.
> >
> > It does campsite and travel level with incredible accuracy.
> >
> > http://www.gmcmotorhomemarketplace.com/vasilakes/microlevel_install-operation.pdf
> >
> > It’s one of the top five enhancements I’ve made to the coach.
> >
> > Dolph Santorine
> >
> > DE AD0LF
> >
> > Wheeling, West Virginia
> >
> > 1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
> > Howell EFI/EBL , Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
> >
> >

> > >

> > >> Hardly worth the effort. Just put a hoppy level on the front side of the refer cabinet and one on the front. It only takes a couple of minutes
> > to
> > >> level especially if the bags are full from the start of leveling.
> > >
> > > I knew somebody would say that :)
> > >
> > > But really, 50 years of modifying these things, can we honestly say all of those mods were "worth the effort"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dave & Ellen Silva
> > >
> > > 1972 Revcon Olds 455, toro drive train. All Stock
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> https://www.gmcmi.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/microlevel-intro-vasilakes.pdf
>
> --
> Ed Clerkin | 1974 GMC Canyon Lands 26’
> Central Coast CA
>
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MicroLevel
Keith Vasilakes 1976 Ex Royale 5131 Greenwood drive Mounds View, Minnesota 55112 763-732-3419 My427V8

Dolph Santorine

DE AD0LF

Wheeling, West Virginia

1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
Howell EFI/EBL , Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission

>
> Who sells this piece of equipment?

>>
>>

>>> Microlevel is a system that Keith Vasilakes manufactures.
>>>
>>> It does campsite and travel level with incredible accuracy.
>>>
>>> http://www.gmcmotorhomemarketplace.com/vasilakes/microlevel_install-operation.pdf
>>>
>>> It’s one of the top five enhancements I’ve made to the coach.
>>>
>>> Dolph Santorine
>>>
>>> DE AD0LF
>>>
>>> Wheeling, West Virginia
>>>
>>> 1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
>>> Howell EFI/EBL , Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
>>>
>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> Hardly worth the effort. Just put a hoppy level on the front side of the refer cabinet and one on the front. It only takes a couple of minutes
>>> to
>>>>> level especially if the bags are full from the start of leveling.
>>>>
>>>> I knew somebody would say that :)
>>>>
>>>> But really, 50 years of modifying these things, can we honestly say all of those mods were "worth the effort"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave & Ellen Silva
>>>>
>>>> 1972 Revcon Olds 455, toro drive train. All Stock
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>> To enhance this post, click the following link for more detail including price, user manual and wiring schematic:
>> https://www.gmcmi.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/microlevel-intro-vasilakes.pdf
>>
>> --
>> Ed Clerkin | 1974 GMC Canyon Lands 26’
>> Central Coast CA
>>
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Man! you look away for 1 minute....

Dave, heres something to think about on the pinball leveling system.
G Forces.
Every time you start, stop, go up or down a hill your pinball leveler will be Hitting tilt. Not really the best solution. You really need to measure the suspension height, then filter the cr*p outta it. Check out this graph of what the suspension does going around an S curve

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I build and sell MicroLevel.
Call 763 732 3419 if you have any questions, I'm always happy to talk about it and most anything LOL

Click here for MicroLevelhttp://www.gmcmotorhomemarketplace.com/vasilakes/microlevel_intro.pdf info

Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View MN
76 exRoyale

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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Automatic leveling system?

MicroLevel
Keith Vasilakes 1976 Ex Royale 5131 Greenwood drive Mounds View, Minnesota 55112 763-732-3419 My427V8

Dolph Santorine

DE AD0LF

Wheeling, West Virginia

1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
Howell EFI/EBL , Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission

>
> Who sells this piece of equipment?

>>
>>

>>> Microlevel is a system that Keith Vasilakes manufactures.
>>>
>>> It does campsite and travel level with incredible accuracy.
>>>
>>> http://www.gmcmotorhomemarketplace.com/vasilakes/microlevel_install-operation.pdf
>>>
>>> It’s one of the top five enhancements I’ve made to the coach.
>>>
>>> Dolph Santorine
>>>
>>> DE AD0LF
>>>
>>> Wheeling, West Virginia
>>>
>>> 1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
>>> Howell EFI/EBL , Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
>>>
>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> Hardly worth the effort. Just put a hoppy level on the front side of the refer cabinet and one on the front. It only takes a couple of minutes
>>> to
>>>>> level especially if the bags are full from the start of leveling.
>>>>
>>>> I knew somebody would say that :)
>>>>
>>>> But really, 50 years of modifying these things, can we honestly say all of those mods were "worth the effort"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave & Ellen Silva
>>>>
>>>> 1972 Revcon Olds 455, toro drive train. All Stock
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>> To enhance this post, click the following link for more detail including price, user manual and wiring schematic:
>> https://www.gmcmi.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/microlevel-intro-vasilakes.pdf
>>
>> --
>> Ed Clerkin | 1974 GMC Canyon Lands 26’
>> Central Coast CA
>>
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