Anyone tow a Fiat Abarth?

Hello Emery,

We have the 500X with the double clutch automatic.
If this model is available in the USA/Canada I don't know.

It has three pre-installed drive modes, sport, normal and winter/wet roads.
We drive it in normal, since the sport mode is to nervous for us.
In our opinion it needs still some (software) tweaking, but that is up to Fiat.

Overall the we like the car very much.
Since Fiat is now involved with Chrysler and Jeep, the 500X was develloped and partial based on the Jeep. (Don't know what model exactly)

Daniel
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Well, the Kia Mousemobile sticks like it's glued and handles nicely for us. It ain't the equal of your Yenko on the crookeds, but very few are. I
drove a Fiat 1300CC sedan for many many miles, the only problem I had was a dying coil which made it hard to start till I found it. Since there were
very few FWD cars in the hinterlands in the 70s, I managed to beat a 'Reckless Driving Minor' citation in Blytheville AR in court when the citing
officer swore he saw me leave a light and spin the rear wheels. I got a directed verdict of 'Not Guilty".

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My Soul just rolled over 95K miles, of which probably 15k is as a toad. I see no reason not to tow it four down. I >suspect< Kia is opposed for
warranty purposes - I don't think mine updates the odometer when it's being towed, but I'll check this in a couple of weeks. I can't speak to the
newer ones but unless the engine/trans package has changed there'd be no reason not to tow it. I can think of only two rides I'd tow in lieu of the
Mousemobile - a Mini-Moke or a VW Thing.
Actually, I'd consider the Fiat 850 Spyder with the Bertone body, it's a beautiful little car. If Dunahugh ever wants something to flat tow, it
handles surprisingly like his Corvair, albeit substantially slower.
A note for whomever thought I rented a Soul in Branson - didn't happen. I've no argument with those of you who like the place, but I have lost
exactly nothing there, and have no intention of going there again, except for substantial amounts of money (which was why I ever went there in the
first place)

--johnny
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'76 23' transmode Norris upfit, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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Thanks, Daniel.

In the US the 500 X is available with the 6 speed manual C365 transmission or the 9 speed automatic (additional cost $1600 - this cost includes the 2.4 liter engine instead of the 1.4 liter engine). You cannot tow this automatic 4 wheels down.

Also in the US, the 500 L is available with the 6 speed manual C635 transmission or with the six speed Euro Twin Clutch Transmission (automatic - additional cost $1350). This comes with the 1.4 l turbo engine. You can tow either transmission 4 wheels down.

There are some other differences between the X and the L. The Fiat 500 is a longer-wheelbase hatchback with four doors rather than two, and the 500X, a new 4-door compact crossover with available all-wheel drive. The 500L is longer, while the 500X is more sloped -- and has more ground clearance -- the 500X offers more on account of its SUV design. The 500L's steeply raked windshield gives it more of a minivan feeling, while the 500X's cabin design makes it feel like a more traditional SUV.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

>
> Hello Emery,
>
> We have the 500X with the double clutch automatic.
> If this model is available in the USA/Canada I don't know.
>
> It has three pre-installed drive modes, sport, normal and winter/wet roads.
> We drive it in normal, since the sport mode is to nervous for us.
> In our opinion it needs still some (software) tweaking, but that is up to Fiat.
>
> Overall the we like the car very much.
> Since Fiat is now involved with Chrysler and Jeep, the 500X was develloped and partial based on the Jeep. (Don't know what model exactly)
>
> Daniel
> --
> Daniel Jacobs, No GMC, but an admirer of them .... We'll see what the future brings ....
>
> Always remember, the world is full of nice people!
> So, if you can't find one, be one!
>
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Soul weighs 2837 pounds for the 2.0L with auto tranny.

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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Anyone tow a Fiat Abarth?

Odd.

I have seen Kia Souls being towed 4 down. I thought Jim Bounds had some pictures as well of a tow bar soul. But I would guess them to be a bit
heavier then a fiat.

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My wife and I both have Fiat 500 Convertibles, her's is the Lounge Edition with an automatic, mine is the Abarth with a manual.
We bought mine to tow, we actually flew from North Carolina and bought them in California last year over Christmas.
It was one of the most enjoyable vacations we have taken.
Both cars are very comfortable on long trips, in both the drivers seat and the passenger seat.
Yes, the Abarth has a stiffer suspension, but to be honest, it does not bother either of us.
As far as performance, the Abarth blows the Lounge out of the water.
Her next Fiat will be an Abarth.

We have not towed it yet, we still tow our Samurai since we can drive that on the beach.
The steering wheel does not lock, so no need to keep the key in it.
But BlueOx makes a baseplate for the Fiat.

This is a great article about installing the baseplate on the Abarth:
http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/showthread.php?20828-Preparing-Abarth-to-be-Flat-Towed-w-Blue-Ox-Hardware

We have 2015 models, they have the newer instrument display, I liked it better, she preferred the older design.
2015 also has armrests for the driver and passenger, pre-2015 was only on the driver side.
Other than that, there really is not much difference.
We toy with the idea of getting an older Abarth Hardtop so we can put a roof rack on it to haul our kayaks.

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Thanks, Daniel.

In the US the 500 X is available with the 6 speed manual C365 transmission or the 9 speed automatic (additional cost $1600 - this cost includes the 2.4 liter engine instead of the 1.4 liter engine). You cannot tow this automatic 4 wheels down.

Also in the US, the 500 L is available with the 6 speed manual C635 transmission or with the six speed Euro Twin Clutch Transmission (automatic - additional cost $1350). This comes with the 1.4 l turbo engine. You can tow either transmission 4 wheels down.

There are some other differences between the X and the L. The Fiat 500 is a longer-wheelbase hatchback with four doors rather than two, and the 500X, a new 4-door compact crossover with available all-wheel drive. The 500L is longer, while the 500X is more sloped -- and has more ground clearance -- the 500X offers more on account of its SUV design. The 500L's steeply raked windshield gives it more of a minivan feeling, while the 500X's cabin design makes it feel like a more traditional SUV.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
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Not exactly to point. However, I tow a Honda Fit and extremely happy with it. Hardly notice that it is behind the GMC except on acceleration. Mine is
2010, manual Transmission. Others tow the Fit with automatic. The main reason I have this one, p.o. had already installed everything needed to tow.
Good saving on purchase.
It might be interesting to do a survey of which vehicles people are towing. Trackers, in various forms will be number one. Some rallies look like a
Tracker convention.
Tom, MS II
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Let me point out the Quick n Dirty way to set up the lights for a modern tow. Pretty much everything electric runs through the computer, powering a
light externally might well give it heartburn. On the Mousemobile, and most modern stuff, the taillight assembly is large. I found a likely place,
drilled a hole, and stuffed a stop and turn bulb in the assembly with separate wires to the tow harness. I'm going to swap the bulbs for LED ones
because incandescent ones run a bit dim at the end of all that chinese wire from WalMart.

--johnny
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'76 23' transmode Norris upfit, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"The road goes on forever, and the party never ends" --Robert Earl Keen
 
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> Let me point out the Quick n Dirty way to set up the lights for a modern tow. Pretty much everything electric runs through the computer, powering
> a light externally might well give it heartburn. On the Mousemobile, and most modern stuff, the taillight assembly is large. I found a likely
> place, drilled a hole, and stuffed a stop and turn bulb in the assembly with separate wires to the tow harness. I'm going to swap the bulbs for LED
> ones because incandescent ones run a bit dim at the end of all that chinese wire from WalMart.
>
> --johnny

I did the same thing on my HHR. I didn't want to combine the electric and it was pretty easy to do. I love the HHR as a towd in concept, but I have 3
kids. So I'll trade the extra 500-600lbs for the ability to sit all 3, in boosters, across the back. It's not comfy, but it works for them, and we
still have a ton of cargo capacity. That being said, I really hate when I have to tow. I can definitely feel it back there like a sea anchor. For our
D.C. trip we decided to rent when we arrived. Best decision we made in a long time, especially since we got a free upgrade to a minivan. Made sitting
in D.C. traffic much better not having the kids yelling at each other for having to sit so close for so long.

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Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
 
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> ...the kids yelling at each other for having to sit so close for so long.
He's touching me! Make him stop staring at me! Are we there yet? I gotta go to the bathroom! I'm hungry! When are we gonna get there?

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