Alcoa wheel part numbers

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marcus mcgee

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> Henrey not a good price. Gateway has them for $1195/6 wheels that includes
> shipping, center caps and all fittings. Wright wheels 608-742-0696 has them
> for $1150, that includes shipping, center caps and lug nuts.
>

> >I'm in the process of getting price quotes for Alcoa wheels. Can anyone verify
> >the Alcoa part number? Three out of four wheel guys didn't have a clue while
> >the fourth gave me a P/N of 160-231. These are 16x6 wheels. Best quote so far
> >is $156 each.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Henry

> >
There is a fellow that sells them out of Ohio and last price I got
from him was 148.00 complete and shipping is paid on orders over $300.
I will get his name and pass it along. They are shipped directly
from the Alcoa plant. From memory his name is Don Wirth and he is
listed in the club directory. If you get the wheels, get some
buffing and polish compound from Busch in VA. The stuff makes the
wheels really shine like bright chrome and the shine lasts for a
long time.
 
I'm in the process of getting price quotes for Alcoa wheels. Can anyone verify
the Alcoa part number? Three out of four wheel guys didn't have a clue while
the fourth gave me a P/N of 160-231. These are 16x6 wheels. Best quote so far
is $156 each.

Thanks,

Henry

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 02:39:06 -0400
From: "Ralph D. Edelbach"
Subject: GMC: More brake stuff.

> According to Mark, in the technical department of Performance Friction,
> their high performance "Z" pads do not require heat to operate properly
> and are used by a lot of trucking companies, US post office and police
> departments.

> I don't have any experience with HP pads "eating up rotors" although Mark
> did volunteer they would not last quite as long as regular pads. Given the
> choice between better braking of an 11,000 pound vehicle and pad life, I
> opt for the quicker stops, all things considered.

I ended up ordering a set of their D 614Z police special pads yesterday.
Comparing the different sets available for GMC's and other GM vehicle, it is
obvious that the D614 regular pad, same size as D614Z, has quite a bit more
surface area than the normal pad plus no rivet holes such as those used on
the pads presently in my coach. The pads I have now were put in about 2
years ago by the PO and don't look as if they have had much use at all. I
was just about able to get them back over the disk even with the piston
pressed all the way back into the bore. Incidently, the D614Z pads cost
$84.90 for the set, which is about $50 more than the normal set. I'll keep
the list posted on the results but not having driven my GMC for many miles
nor ever driven another one, I probably won't be able to give a good
comparison. If I put a set of the correct "Z" pads on my 1989 Ford Taurus
SHO which I do drive briskly, I'll be better able to comment on any braking
differences.

Happy and safe motoring

> Previous response:

> > The high performance pads will eat your brake rotors up. Pads are
> > much cheaper than rotors.
> > Certain high performance pads, like the full metallic variety, will in
> fact wear your brake
> rotors faster. The semi metallic pads like Performance Friction carbon
> metallic are not as aggressive and work nearly as well as full metallic
> pads. A word of warning for those inclined to try full metallic pads or
> shoes: They will not work well unless they are hot first. They are not
> really suited to street driven vehicles.
>
> -Scott Woodworth
 
I got a quote from a local tire dealer - Discount Tire Co. in San Antonio,
Texas 210 967-9884 - Rick Henefield, Assistant Manager, of $125.99 each.
That is before sales tax and fob his store. Hope that helps.
- -----Original Message-----
From: hdavis
To: gmcmotorhome
Date: Tuesday, April 07, 1998 1:25 AM
Subject: GMC: Alcoa wheel part numbers

>I'm in the process of getting price quotes for Alcoa wheels. Can anyone
verify
>the Alcoa part number? Three out of four wheel guys didn't have a clue
while
>the fourth gave me a P/N of 160-231. These are 16x6 wheels. Best quote so
far
>is $156 each.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Henry
 
Henrey not a good price. Gateway has them for $1195/6 wheels that includes
shipping, center caps and all fittings. Wright wheels 608-742-0696 has them
for $1150, that includes shipping, center caps and lug nuts.

>I'm in the process of getting price quotes for Alcoa wheels. Can anyone verify
>the Alcoa part number? Three out of four wheel guys didn't have a clue while
>the fourth gave me a P/N of 160-231. These are 16x6 wheels. Best quote so far
>is $156 each.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Henry
>
>
>Henry Davis Consulting, Inc / new product consulting
>PO Box 1270 / product readiness reviews
>Soquel, Ca 95073 / IP reviews
>ph: (408) 462-5199 / full service marketing
>fax: (408) 462-5198
>http:\\www.henry-davis.com
>
>
 
Did the price of $149 include the caps and wheel nuts and covers?

>GMCers
>
>Sorry about that AOL keeps sending my mail instead of me. Anyway
>The first wheel my dealer got in did not have the dual offset--------not
>good. Because I told him that I did not have duals. The next one was
>for dual aplication and was just right. I never did find a part #.
>
>I paid $149 for mine which included valve stems which come
>mounted on the wheel. Several places quoted them seperately.
>$5 for mounting and balancing. BTW my local Sears store gave
>me a quote that was almost as good on wheels and Mich tires.
>I did not like their balance machine. My local trusty tire dealer
>deals with big tires all the time. If sears would have been having
>a tire sale I bet they could have been a good price. Just did not
>like their balance machine. Yes tax was on top of that.
>
>Take Care
>Arch
>
>
 
Request some clarification on part numbers for the Alcoa Wheels. I think
some of the recent message traffic has typo errors in it. I saw where
Alcoa and Cinnabar said 160-231 and other messages say 160-132 for the
rear ?? I'm totally confused. Is there some dyslexia at work here or are
we that unsure? I just bought 2 at the Las Vegas meet from a vendor
there that is widely known and I can tell you he never asked me if they
were for the front or back. Does anyone know the bottom line for the
correct part number (s) are, what the difference between the two are, if
there is a difference, and where the best bottom line price is? It
sounds like it may be Discount Tire. I know one thing that is important
from Las Vegas meet, you need to run a wheel that seats tightly on the
center hub, front or back, and carries the load on the hub and not on
the studs like most other vehicles like duallys.

I'm not convinced synthetics are worth the difference in price
when you consider you can change oil 3-4 times more often at the same
cost so I wrote Click and Clack (Tom and Ray) to get their story. If
they were so great, NASCAR would be running it in their $100K plus
engines. And by the way Jeff Gordon wouldn't be running Quaker State in
all the Hendricks engines if it was that bad. I'm a Mark Martin
Valvoline fan but I don't agree that Pennsyvania oils are all that bad
as long as they meet API/ASE requirements. Consumers Reports did a big
study a couple of years back with New York City taxicabs and basically
said the same thing. Don't get me wrong, I agree synthetics are better,
but not necessarily worth the difference in cost.
.Maybe I'll get on Click and Clack"s radio show or get it in the papers.
I'll let you know the answer and post it in the GMC mailing list. If
they agree that synthetics are worth the cost and that Pennzoil and
Quaker State are sludge makers then I will switch to synthetics in all
my vehicles including my classics.
.
Regards,
Phil Swanson
 
160-231 is correct for the front and 160-232 is correct for the rear. Note
that the front (disk brakes) has a smaller center hole than the rears (brake
drums). ie the front rims will not fit on the rear.

>Request some clarification on part numbers for the Alcoa Wheels. I think
>some of the recent message traffic has typo errors in it. I saw where
>Alcoa and Cinnabar said 160-231 and other messages say 160-132 for the
>rear ?? I'm totally confused. Is there some dyslexia at work here or are
>we that unsure? I just bought 2 at the Las Vegas meet from a vendor
>there that is widely known and I can tell you he never asked me if they
>were for the front or back. Does anyone know the bottom line for the
>correct part number (s) are, what the difference between the two are, if
>there is a difference, and where the best bottom line price is? It
>sounds like it may be Discount Tire. I know one thing that is important
>from Las Vegas meet, you need to run a wheel that seats tightly on the
>center hub, front or back, and carries the load on the hub and not on
>the studs like most other vehicles like duallys.
>
> I'm not convinced synthetics are worth the difference in price
>when you consider you can change oil 3-4 times more often at the same
>cost so I wrote Click and Clack (Tom and Ray) to get their story. If
>they were so great, NASCAR would be running it in their $100K plus
>engines. And by the way Jeff Gordon wouldn't be running Quaker State in
>all the Hendricks engines if it was that bad. I'm a Mark Martin
>Valvoline fan but I don't agree that Pennsyvania oils are all that bad
>as long as they meet API/ASE requirements. Consumers Reports did a big
>study a couple of years back with New York City taxicabs and basically
>said the same thing. Don't get me wrong, I agree synthetics are better,
>but not necessarily worth the difference in cost.
>.Maybe I'll get on Click and Clack"s radio show or get it in the papers.
>I'll let you know the answer and post it in the GMC mailing list. If
>they agree that synthetics are worth the cost and that Pennzoil and
>Quaker State are sludge makers then I will switch to synthetics in all
>my vehicles including my classics.
>.
> Regards,
>Phil Swanson
 
Arch I personally checked the catalog and price lists and Alcoa listed a
separate rim for the front and back of the GMC. Only difference was the
inside hole diameter. Do you have information different than this???? If so
I would like to know if I am making a mistake?????

>In a message dated 98-04-09 23:13:50 EDT, you write:
>
> 160-231 is correct for the front and 160-232 is correct for the rear. Note
> that the front (disk brakes) has a smaller center hole than the rears (brake
> drums). ie the front rims will not fit on the rear.
> >>
>Boy hope this is not true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Arch
>
>
 
I just got off the phone with Cinnabar. According to them there is one part
number for all wheels for the GMC. It is 160-231. If you look at the tire
rotation pattern in your owner's manual, you will see that the recommended 6
tire rotation exchanges the front axle wheels with those on the first tandem
axle. The seven tire rotation has additional exchanges. From this diagram
and Cinnabar's confirmation I'd say the centers are exactly the same for
front and rear in the stock configuration.

I originally posted the question asking for P/N confirmation since Alcoa
reps had provided a total of 3 different P/Ns - 2 of which are wrong. Since
then I have talked with Cinnabar twice, checked the rotation recommendation,
and verifed the numbers in Cinnabar's newsletter.

>
>160-231 is correct for the front and 160-232 is correct for the rear. Note
>that the front (disk brakes) has a smaller center hole than the rears
(brake
>drums). ie the front rims will not fit on the rear.
>
>
>

>>Request some clarification on part numbers for the Alcoa Wheels. I think
>>some of the recent message traffic has typo errors in it. I saw where
>>Alcoa and Cinnabar said 160-231 and other messages say 160-132 for the
>>rear ?? I'm totally confused. Is there some dyslexia at work here or are
>>we that unsure? I just bought 2 at the Las Vegas meet from a vendor
>>there that is widely known and I can tell you he never asked me if they
>>were for the front or back. Does anyone know the bottom line for the
>>correct part number (s) are, what the difference between the two are, if
>>there is a difference, and where the best bottom line price is? It
>>sounds like it may be Discount Tire. I know one thing that is important
>>from Las Vegas meet, you need to run a wheel that seats tightly on the
>>center hub, front or back, and carries the load on the hub and not on
>>the studs like most other vehicles like duallys.
>>
 
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