Air bags
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Best place is your favorite GMC Motorhome supplier, JmK comes immediately to mind. If you have more money, Cinnabar also sells them. The cost
effective way is to replace the OEM air bag system with a more modern design, that uses a readily available common air bag. Sully system Quadbag
system, or even 'roll your own.' The OEM air bag had one last run by Firestorm last year, so the future looks a little grim.
If you do not have one, get JmK to send you his catalog - lots of goodies. It is also on line (Applied GMC).
Tom, MS II, with 4 bag system
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1975 GMC Avion
KA4CSG
effective way is to replace the OEM air bag system with a more modern design, that uses a readily available common air bag. Sully system Quadbag
system, or even 'roll your own.' The OEM air bag had one last run by Firestorm last year, so the future looks a little grim.
If you do not have one, get JmK to send you his catalog - lots of goodies. It is also on line (Applied GMC).
Tom, MS II, with 4 bag system
--
1975 GMC Avion
KA4CSG
> Thanks Tom, enlighten me on "roll your own".
Not Tom but here are some of the things others have done
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5471-air-bag-spring-systems.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5471-air-bag-spring-systems.html
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1975 Glenbrook
Megasquirt 455 port injection science project
Omaha Nebraska
Bob Stone hydroBOOOOST
Greater Midwest Classics
GMCES
http://wallyandsue.blogspot.com/
Not Tom but here are some of the things others have done
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5471-air-bag-spring-systems.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5471-air-bag-spring-systems.html
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Wally Anderson
1975 Glenbrook
Megasquirt 455 port injection science project
Omaha Nebraska
Bob Stone hydroBOOOOST
Greater Midwest Classics
GMCES
http://wallyandsue.blogspot.com/
Bob, the Sully system seems to be a favorite right now. More information is at : http://www.bdub.net/sully/
Sully's system uses a modern off-the-shelf airbag that is readily available, coupled with a pair of adapters to fit the air bag within the existing
suspension system. I've heard it's easy to install.
Jim Kanomata (JimK) at Applied GMC also has a number of options available. www.appliedgmc.com
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Bryan Hayes
'76 Eleganza II
Salt Lake City, Utah
Sully's system uses a modern off-the-shelf airbag that is readily available, coupled with a pair of adapters to fit the air bag within the existing
suspension system. I've heard it's easy to install.
Jim Kanomata (JimK) at Applied GMC also has a number of options available. www.appliedgmc.com
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Bryan Hayes
'76 Eleganza II
Salt Lake City, Utah
Alex Ferrara has a system as well, and it promises full travel.
I don’t know where it’s available.
Dolph
DE N8JPC
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>
> Bob, the Sully system seems to be a favorite right now. More information is at : http://www.bdub.net/sully/
>
> Sully's system uses a modern off-the-shelf airbag that is readily available, coupled with a pair of adapters to fit the air bag within the existing
> suspension system. I've heard it's easy to install.
>
> Jim Kanomata (JimK) at Applied GMC also has a number of options available. www.appliedgmc.com
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> Bryan Hayes
> '76 Eleganza II
> Salt Lake City, Utah
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I don’t know where it’s available.
Dolph
DE N8JPC
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>
> Bob, the Sully system seems to be a favorite right now. More information is at : http://www.bdub.net/sully/
>
> Sully's system uses a modern off-the-shelf airbag that is readily available, coupled with a pair of adapters to fit the air bag within the existing
> suspension system. I've heard it's easy to install.
>
> Jim Kanomata (JimK) at Applied GMC also has a number of options available. www.appliedgmc.com
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> Salt Lake City, Utah
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I'm quite sure Alex is selling his bags directly. I've also recently
talked to someone who replaced the equivalent of the Sully bags with Alex's
bags. He reports that the Sully-like bags (which he independently
developed and installed before Sully became involved) ride similar to the
OEM bags, perhaps slightly more softly, and that the coach "floats"
somewhat. He now reports that Alex's bags ride a little more stiffly and
eliminate the "floating" feeling. That's all second hand OPINION, but
there's probably no other direct comparison available yet.
HTH,
Ken H.
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 8:45 PM, Dolph Santorine
wrote:
> Alex Ferrara has a system as well, and it promises full travel.
>
> I don’t know where it’s available.
>
talked to someone who replaced the equivalent of the Sully bags with Alex's
bags. He reports that the Sully-like bags (which he independently
developed and installed before Sully became involved) ride similar to the
OEM bags, perhaps slightly more softly, and that the coach "floats"
somewhat. He now reports that Alex's bags ride a little more stiffly and
eliminate the "floating" feeling. That's all second hand OPINION, but
there's probably no other direct comparison available yet.
HTH,
Ken H.
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 8:45 PM, Dolph Santorine
wrote:
> Alex Ferrara has a system as well, and it promises full travel.
>
> I don’t know where it’s available.
>
Jim Kanomata is the sole retailer for the Alex bag.
>
> I'm quite sure Alex is selling his bags directly. I've also recently
> talked to someone who replaced the equivalent of the Sully bags with
Alex's
> bags. He reports that the Sully-like bags (which he independently
> developed and installed before Sully became involved) ride similar to the
> OEM bags, perhaps slightly more softly, and that the coach "floats"
> somewhat. He now reports that Alex's bags ride a little more stiffly and
> eliminate the "floating" feeling. That's all second hand OPINION, but
> there's probably no other direct comparison available yet.
>
>
> > Alex Ferrara has a system as well, and it promises full travel.
>
> I'm quite sure Alex is selling his bags directly. I've also recently
> talked to someone who replaced the equivalent of the Sully bags with
Alex's
> bags. He reports that the Sully-like bags (which he independently
> developed and installed before Sully became involved) ride similar to the
> OEM bags, perhaps slightly more softly, and that the coach "floats"
> somewhat. He now reports that Alex's bags ride a little more stiffly and
> eliminate the "floating" feeling. That's all second hand OPINION, but
> there's probably no other direct comparison available yet.
>
>
> > Alex Ferrara has a system as well, and it promises full travel.
Jim Kanomata is the retailer for the Alex bag.
bdub
>
> I'm quite sure Alex is selling his bags directly. I've also recently
> talked to someone who replaced the equivalent of the Sully bags with
Alex's
> bags. He reports that the Sully-like bags (which he independently
> developed and installed before Sully became involved) ride similar to the
> OEM bags, perhaps slightly more softly, and that the coach "floats"
> somewhat. He now reports that Alex's bags ride a little more stiffly and
> eliminate the "floating" feeling. That's all second hand OPINION, but
> there's probably no other direct comparison available yet.
>
>
> > Alex Ferrara has a system as well, and it promises full travel.
bdub
>
> I'm quite sure Alex is selling his bags directly. I've also recently
> talked to someone who replaced the equivalent of the Sully bags with
Alex's
> bags. He reports that the Sully-like bags (which he independently
> developed and installed before Sully became involved) ride similar to the
> OEM bags, perhaps slightly more softly, and that the coach "floats"
> somewhat. He now reports that Alex's bags ride a little more stiffly and
> eliminate the "floating" feeling. That's all second hand OPINION, but
> there's probably no other direct comparison available yet.
>
>
> > Alex Ferrara has a system as well, and it promises full travel.
We have the Alex Bag system and the Mono Bag which is very identical to the
Sully bag and comes complete so you do not need to order the bag separate
from the hardware and pay freight twice.
> Jim Kanomata is the retailer for the Alex bag.
>
> bdub
>
>
> >
> > I'm quite sure Alex is selling his bags directly. I've also recently
> > talked to someone who replaced the equivalent of the Sully bags with
> Alex's
> > bags. He reports that the Sully-like bags (which he independently
> > developed and installed before Sully became involved) ride similar to the
> > OEM bags, perhaps slightly more softly, and that the coach "floats"
> > somewhat. He now reports that Alex's bags ride a little more stiffly and
> > eliminate the "floating" feeling. That's all second hand OPINION, but
> > there's probably no other direct comparison available yet.
>
> >
> >
> > > Alex Ferrara has a system as well, and it promises full travel.
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jimk
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
Sully bag and comes complete so you do not need to order the bag separate
from the hardware and pay freight twice.
> Jim Kanomata is the retailer for the Alex bag.
>
> bdub
>
>
> >
> > I'm quite sure Alex is selling his bags directly. I've also recently
> > talked to someone who replaced the equivalent of the Sully bags with
> Alex's
> > bags. He reports that the Sully-like bags (which he independently
> > developed and installed before Sully became involved) ride similar to the
> > OEM bags, perhaps slightly more softly, and that the coach "floats"
> > somewhat. He now reports that Alex's bags ride a little more stiffly and
> > eliminate the "floating" feeling. That's all second hand OPINION, but
> > there's probably no other direct comparison available yet.
>
> >
> >
> > > Alex Ferrara has a system as well, and it promises full travel.
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Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
jimk
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
"Reduced range of travel" refers to the minimum and maximum range of lift provided by the air bags at different air pressures. Reduced range may
interfere with leveling at camp sites by using just the air bags system. Should not be much of a factor with normal road usage.
Tom, MS II
--
1975 GMC Avion
KA4CSG
interfere with leveling at camp sites by using just the air bags system. Should not be much of a factor with normal road usage.
Tom, MS II
--
1975 GMC Avion
KA4CSG
You don't pay freight twice when you buy my kit Jim because the airbag
retailer ships free. So in reality buying my kit from me and the bags
direct from an online retailer costs LESS than you charge for freight of
the complete kit.
Sully
77 eleganza 2
Seattle
> We have the Alex Bag system and the Mono Bag which is very identical to the
> Sully bag and comes complete so you do not need to order the bag separate
> from the hardware and pay freight twice.
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Billy Massey
> > Jim Kanomata is the retailer for the Alex bag.
> >
> > bdub
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I'm quite sure Alex is selling his bags directly. I've also recently
> > > talked to someone who replaced the equivalent of the Sully bags with
> > Alex's
> > > bags. He reports that the Sully-like bags (which he independently
> > > developed and installed before Sully became involved) ride similar to
> the
> > > OEM bags, perhaps slightly more softly, and that the coach "floats"
> > > somewhat. He now reports that Alex's bags ride a little more stiffly
> and
> > > eliminate the "floating" feeling. That's all second hand OPINION, but
> > > there's probably no other direct comparison available yet.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Alex Ferrara has a system as well, and it promises full travel.
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>
>
>
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> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
> jimk
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> 1-800-752-7502
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retailer ships free. So in reality buying my kit from me and the bags
direct from an online retailer costs LESS than you charge for freight of
the complete kit.
Sully
77 eleganza 2
Seattle
> We have the Alex Bag system and the Mono Bag which is very identical to the
> Sully bag and comes complete so you do not need to order the bag separate
> from the hardware and pay freight twice.
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Billy Massey
> > Jim Kanomata is the retailer for the Alex bag.
> >
> > bdub
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I'm quite sure Alex is selling his bags directly. I've also recently
> > > talked to someone who replaced the equivalent of the Sully bags with
> > Alex's
> > > bags. He reports that the Sully-like bags (which he independently
> > > developed and installed before Sully became involved) ride similar to
> the
> > > OEM bags, perhaps slightly more softly, and that the coach "floats"
> > > somewhat. He now reports that Alex's bags ride a little more stiffly
> and
> > > eliminate the "floating" feeling. That's all second hand OPINION, but
> > > there's probably no other direct comparison available yet.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Alex Ferrara has a system as well, and it promises full travel.
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>
>
>
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> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
> jimk
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> 1-800-752-7502
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The Sully bag is defiantly the way to go.
I have it on mine and love it.
Sully so price and quality also much better.
> You don't pay freight twice when you buy my kit Jim because the airbag
> retailer ships free. So in reality buying my kit from me and the bags
> direct from an online retailer costs LESS than you charge for freight of
> the complete kit.
>
> Sully
> 77 eleganza 2
> Seattle
>
>
> > We have the Alex Bag system and the Mono Bag which is very identical to the
> > Sully bag and comes complete so you do not need to order the bag separate
> > from the hardware and pay freight twice.
> >
> >
> >> Jim Kanomata is the retailer for the Alex bag.
> >>
> >> bdub
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I'm quite sure Alex is selling his bags directly. I've also recently
> >>> talked to someone who replaced the equivalent of the Sully bags with
> >> Alex's
> >>> bags. He reports that the Sully-like bags (which he independently
> >>> developed and installed before Sully became involved) ride similar to
> > the
> >>> OEM bags, perhaps slightly more softly, and that the coach "floats"
> >>> somewhat. He now reports that Alex's bags ride a little more stiffly
> > and
> >>> eliminate the "floating" feeling. That's all second hand OPINION, but
> >>> there's probably no other direct comparison available yet.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Alex Ferrara has a system as well, and it promises full travel.
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jim Kanomata
> > Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
> > jimk
> > http://www.appliedgmc.com
> > 1-800-752-7502
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1977 Kingsley 455 as stock as it gets except lots of Ragusa parts
I have it on mine and love it.
Sully so price and quality also much better.
> You don't pay freight twice when you buy my kit Jim because the airbag
> retailer ships free. So in reality buying my kit from me and the bags
> direct from an online retailer costs LESS than you charge for freight of
> the complete kit.
>
> Sully
> 77 eleganza 2
> Seattle
>
>
> > We have the Alex Bag system and the Mono Bag which is very identical to the
> > Sully bag and comes complete so you do not need to order the bag separate
> > from the hardware and pay freight twice.
> >
> >
> >> Jim Kanomata is the retailer for the Alex bag.
> >>
> >> bdub
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I'm quite sure Alex is selling his bags directly. I've also recently
> >>> talked to someone who replaced the equivalent of the Sully bags with
> >> Alex's
> >>> bags. He reports that the Sully-like bags (which he independently
> >>> developed and installed before Sully became involved) ride similar to
> > the
> >>> OEM bags, perhaps slightly more softly, and that the coach "floats"
> >>> somewhat. He now reports that Alex's bags ride a little more stiffly
> > and
> >>> eliminate the "floating" feeling. That's all second hand OPINION, but
> >>> there's probably no other direct comparison available yet.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Alex Ferrara has a system as well, and it promises full travel.
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jim Kanomata
> > Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
> > jimk
> > http://www.appliedgmc.com
> > 1-800-752-7502
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1977 Kingsley 455 as stock as it gets except lots of Ragusa parts
Does anybody know what bag (part number) Alex is using for his design?
It'd be nice to know the details on it (price, air pressure, load design, etc).
thanks
Karen
1975 26'
It'd be nice to know the details on it (price, air pressure, load design, etc).
thanks
Karen
1975 26'
