Aftermarket Cruise Controls

[thomas g. warner]

Answer to a difficult question may be to change out the speedometer and
cruise control for a whole new unit. thats what I am mulling over. VDO and
several others have systems that use the original speedo cable with new
electronic system that can be calibrated to any system and any tire size.
Anybody else thought about it?

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>I have not seen one that uses the existing pickoff. I do not want to
>change the Spedo cable and the curse Xducer is part of the cable. I do
>not like adding magnets as I did that on a corvar and I was always
>throwing them off. My answer has been to buy extra Xducers.
>
>but I am interested also.
>
>gene
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>Subject: GMC: Aftermarket Cruise Controls
>
>I want to install an aftermarket cruise control on my '78 Royale. It
>has the original 403 CID engine, TH425 transmission and 3.07 final drive
>.
>
>I prefer those with transducers that use the existing speed input cable
>and speedometer cable arrangement (as opposed to those that use magnets
>taped to a driveshaft). If no one makes that type, I would be interested
>in alternatives
>
>For any that you recommend, please advise:
>
>a. how speed input signal is delivered to transducer.
>
>b. manufacturer.
>
>c. cost.
>
>d. source.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Fred Hudspeth
>
>
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>
>
>--
>Gene 76Palm Beach /Or/CA
>
>GMC Technical Information
>http://www.california.com/~eagle/
>
>
Tom & Marg Warner
Vernon Center NY
1976 palmbeach

 

[mr.c]

I too am interested but not in putting magnets. Jim seems to know all there
is about the cruise controls, any suggestions.

Al Chernoff

> -- [ From: Eugene Fisher * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] --
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>
> Geat request
>
> I have not seen one that uses the existing pickoff. I do not want to
> change the Spedo cable and the curse Xducer is part of the cable. I do
> not like adding magnets as I did that on a corvar and I was always
> throwing them off. My answer has been to buy extra Xducers.
>
> but I am interested also.
>
> gene
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>
> Date: Thursday, 24-Dec-98 08:01 PM
>
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> Subject: GMC: Aftermarket Cruise Controls
>
> I want to install an aftermarket cruise control on my '78 Royale. It
> has the original 403 CID engine, TH425 transmission and 3.07 final drive
> .
>
> I prefer those with transducers that use the existing speed input cable
> and speedometer cable arrangement (as opposed to those that use magnets
> taped to a driveshaft). If no one makes that type, I would be interested
> in alternatives
>
> For any that you recommend, please advise:
>
> a. how speed input signal is delivered to transducer.
>
> b. manufacturer.
>
> c. cost.
>
> d. source.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fred Hudspeth
>
> -------- REPLY, End of original message --------
>
> --
> Gene 76Palm Beach /Or/CA
>
> GMC Technical Information
> http://www.california.com/~eagle/

 

[jim bounds1]

Fred,
There are several advantages to going to a new technology cruise control.

First lets talk about the speed sensing set up. The old way to sense speed
on an after market cruise system was the magnets on the drive shaft. This
was a tedious install and, as you stated, threw off on a regular basis. I
also was always very leery of installing a sensor that close to the drive
shaft! I know because I had a concession business at the local Sears to
install all after market accessories they sold. By far the cruise systems
were the most troublesome.

Later units employed an in line transducer, basically like the OEM system.
These were more accurate but had the same reliability problems of the OEM
mechanical pickup.

The new systems I install employ no sensors to fail what so ever, they use
a simple pulse sensing circuit which reads the tach. output. You may say,
"how accurate can that be?". The new micro processors are much faster than
we can imagine and the system is very reliable, easy to hook up & accurate.
I have installed many of these with many others installed by customers and
all were satisfied with the results.

Next, the additional features- You get resume, speed up/down which makes a
cruise controls invaluable on long boring trips.

The best feature is that I can help you purchase a unit locally with a
local warranty if there are hardware malfunctions and help you install it
into your GMC motorhome through a modification manual I have put together.

The unit is @99.00 at your local parts shop (Audiovox CCS-100) and my
manual is $10.00. I'll be happy to FAX it to you if you wish. The install
should take you about 2 hours to complete and there are no special tools or
other parts needed other than a little more split loom than comes in the
kit for a cleaner finished install.

If you have any other questions, please give me a call. I would strongly
suggest switching to a new style system as opposed to putting $ into the
OEM featureless set up. I like change when it gives me more performance.

>I want to install an aftermarket cruise control on my '78 Royale. It has the
>original 403 CID engine, TH425 transmission and 3.07 final drive.
>
>I prefer those with transducers that use the existing speed input cable and
>speedometer cable arrangement (as opposed to those that use magnets taped
to a
>driveshaft). If no one makes that type, I would be interested in alternatives
>
>For any that you recommend, please advise:
>
>a. how speed input signal is delivered to transducer.
>
>b. manufacturer.
>
>c. cost.
>
>d. source.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Fred Hudspeth
>
>

 

[hawk ii]

Like Jim Bounds

I have installed the Autovox after market cruise control on my '79
Datsun 280zx -- works great-- I purchased it from Discount Auto
Supply

BUT - best thing i like about the new technology is that it monitors
the rate of change in engine RPMs-
which means that- if the transmission were ever to shift into neutral
- - the cruise control would qickly disconnect itself - there by saving
a runaway open throttle condition - that has sent a nunber of engines
to thier graves.

>
> Fred,
> There are several advantages to going to a new technology cruise
control.
> etc---- the rest has been delete to save space

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[zachary zehnacker]

Jim,

How does this cruise work under different loads if it only senses the
tach? It seems that it would not like hills at all. There would be more
converter slippage going up hills which means the tach output would be
higher for the same speed. That means you would slow down going up any
hill wouldn't it? The reverse would be true for going down hills. It
seems you would speed up quite a bit going down large hills if you tried to
maintain the same RPM. Also, what happens if the trans downshifts? Do you
slow down immediately to the set RPM even though it is at a much slower MPH
in the lower gear? From the experiences given on this list by you and some
others, it seems this system works very well. I'm just wondering how they
get around these problems associated with sensing the tach.

Zak

>trigger- to tach out of dist.
>ground- should be self explainatory
>Brake cut trigger- tie to output at brake pedal
>Constant- fuse block of input to brake pedal
>Ignition- fuse block ign. hot.
>Illumination- grey wire to dash lights
>Jim Bounds

 

[jim bounds1]

Al,

I forgot to mention the overrev. sensing circuit the systems have, I also
like the fact of havinf an "off" button to actually turn off the system for
sure!

I agree, I do not like to change circuits because you have to document mods
for future trouble shooting. This is also a beauty of the new cruise
controls.

You do not use anything from the old system (take it all out), it is
totally descrete and the wiring is very basic:

trigger- to tach out of dist.
ground- should be self explainatory
Brake cut trigger- tie to output at brake pedal
Constant- fuse block of input to brake pedal
Ignition- fuse block ign. hot.
Illumination- grey wire to dash lights
- ------------------ thats all the wiring hook-ups! -------------------

Here's something else, if you want to remove the OEM transducer for a
cleaner engine compartment, the upper speedo cable will reach to the tranny
eliminating the lower speedo cable and transducer completely! This is a
bonus for those who have locked up transducers.

If you have interest, I would strongly suggest trying one, they really do
work!

Let me know if I can help.

Jim Bounds
- ---------------------------

>I too am interested but not in putting magnets. Jim seems to know all there
>is about the cruise controls, any suggestions.
>
>Al Chernoff
>

>
>> -- [ From: Eugene Fisher * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] --
>> Expanded recipient data:
>> To: FBHUDSPETH (Unlisted Name) \ America On-Line: (fbhudspeth)
>>
>> Geat request
>>
>> I have not seen one that uses the existing pickoff. I do not want to
>> change the Spedo cable and the curse Xducer is part of the cable. I do
>> not like adding magnets as I did that on a corvar and I was always
>> throwing them off. My answer has been to buy extra Xducers.
>>
>> but I am interested also.
>>
>> gene
>> -------- REPLY, Original message follows --------
>>
>> Date: Thursday, 24-Dec-98 08:01 PM
>>
>> From: FBHUDSPETH (Unlisted Name) \ America On-Line: (fbhudspeth)
>> To: gmclist \ Internet: (gmcmotorhome
>> .org)
>>
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>>
>> Subject: GMC: Aftermarket Cruise Controls
>>
>> I want to install an aftermarket cruise control on my '78 Royale. It
>> has the original 403 CID engine, TH425 transmission and 3.07 final drive
>> .
>>
>> I prefer those with transducers that use the existing speed input cable
>> and speedometer cable arrangement (as opposed to those that use magnets
>> taped to a driveshaft). If no one makes that type, I would be interested
>> in alternatives
>>
>> For any that you recommend, please advise:
>>
>> a. how speed input signal is delivered to transducer.
>>
>> b. manufacturer.
>>
>> c. cost.
>>
>> d. source.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Fred Hudspeth
>>
>> -------- REPLY, End of original message --------
>>
>> --
>> Gene 76Palm Beach /Or/CA
>>
>> GMC Technical Information
>> http://www.california.com/~eagle/
>
>
>

 

[phil swanson]

>
>
>
>
> The unit is @99.00 at your local parts shop (Audiovox CCS-100) and my
> manual is $10.00. I'll be happy to FAX it to you if you wish. The install
> should take you about 2 hours to complete and there are no special tools or
> other parts needed other than a little more split loom than comes in the
> kit for a cleaner finished install.
>
> If you have any other questions, please give me a call. I would strongly
> suggest switching to a new style system as opposed to putting $ into the
> OEM featureless set up. I like change when it gives me more performance.

>

Do you have any other suggestions brand wise? In my opinion, Audivox is junky
stuff, about one notch below Emerson. I have had a couple of Audiovox stereos for
cars over the years and they were pure lousy. Don't know if their cruise controls
are better but I would look to a better manufacturer that Audiovox.
Phil Swanson

 

[jim bounds1]

Zak,
Good question, and the ones everyone asks.

I feel a cruise control is for just as it says cruising. Down here in
Florida, we do not have any hills that would tax the system. In a very
hilly situation, such as going to the Marion rally, I experianced a 3-5 MPH
drop and rise in speed due to the hills which had no problem with. On
larger hills, I assisted the cruise and gave the gas pedal a little nudge.
I feel large hills usually require down shifting and I would want to take
the helm at that point. I would kick off the cruise in those situations,
call me too cautous or a flatlander who doesn't know how to drive in
mountains but I do not use a cruise on big hills.
If the tranny downshifts under cruise, the system shuts off via the speed
sensing circuit, I like that!

Another charistic of such a system is that it increases and decreases speed
slowly as opposed to yanking the pedel as some systems do. I like the
smooth transition which acts more like the name says "cruise".

This system is not for you if you like the coach to kick down in cruise,
climb steep hills without attention or take the gas pedel from you when it
engages.

It is inexpensive, reliable, easy to install and feature packed and if
thats what you want, it is your answer.

Thanks for bringing up the questions everyone has asked me in personal posts.

Jim Bounds
- ------------------------

>Jim,
>
> How does this cruise work under different loads if it only senses the
>tach? It seems that it would not like hills at all. There would be more
>converter slippage going up hills which means the tach output would be
>higher for the same speed. That means you would slow down going up any
>hill wouldn't it? The reverse would be true for going down hills. It
>seems you would speed up quite a bit going down large hills if you tried to
>maintain the same RPM. Also, what happens if the trans downshifts? Do you
>slow down immediately to the set RPM even though it is at a much slower MPH
>in the lower gear? From the experiences given on this list by you and some
>others, it seems this system works very well. I'm just wondering how they
>get around these problems associated with sensing the tach.
>
> Zak
>
>
>
>
>

>>trigger- to tach out of dist.
>>ground- should be self explainatory
>>Brake cut trigger- tie to output at brake pedal
>>Constant- fuse block of input to brake pedal
>>Ignition- fuse block ign. hot.
>>Illumination- grey wire to dash lights
>>Jim Bounds
>
>
>

 

[bartz paul]

Jim:

The Audivox cruise control (250-1076) I purchased, with slip-on handle
(250-3032) (fits over a chopped turn signal lever) uses a speed pick-up
unit(250-4153) that has a short cable end that installs at the transmission,
followed by the original cruise control/speedometer cable, to sense speed.
The pickup-up unit is connected electrically to the control control module.

Doesn't the unit you install use the identical pick-up?

Paul Bartz

From: Jim Bounds
Sent: 12/27/98 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: GMC: Aftermarket Cruise Controls

Zak,
Good question, and the ones everyone asks.

I feel a cruise control is for just as it says cruising. Down here in
Florida, we do not have any hills that would tax the system. In a very
hilly situation, such as going to the Marion rally, I experianced a 3-5
MPH
drop and rise in speed due to the hills which had no problem with. On
larger hills, I assisted the cruise and gave the gas pedal a little
nudge.
I feel large hills usually require down shifting and I would want to
take
the helm at that point. I would kick off the cruise in those
situations,
call me too cautous or a flatlander who doesn't know how to drive in
mountains but I do not use a cruise on big hills.
If the tranny downshifts under cruise, the system shuts off via the
speed
sensing circuit, I like that!

Another charistic of such a system is that it increases and decreases
speed
slowly as opposed to yanking the pedel as some systems do. I like the
smooth transition which acts more like the name says "cruise".

This system is not for you if you like the coach to kick down in cruise,
climb steep hills without attention or take the gas pedel from you when
it
engages.

It is inexpensive, reliable, easy to install and feature packed and if
thats what you want, it is your answer.

Thanks for bringing up the questions everyone has asked me in personal
posts.

Jim Bounds
- ------------------------

>Jim,
>
> How does this cruise work under different loads if it only
senses the
>tach? It seems that it would not like hills at all. There would be
more
>converter slippage going up hills which means the tach output would be
>higher for the same speed. That means you would slow down going up any
>hill wouldn't it? The reverse would be true for going down hills. It
>seems you would speed up quite a bit going down large hills if you
tried to
>maintain the same RPM. Also, what happens if the trans downshifts? Do
you
>slow down immediately to the set RPM even though it is at a much slower
MPH
>in the lower gear? From the experiences given on this list by you and
some
>others, it seems this system works very well. I'm just wondering how
they
>get around these problems associated with sensing the tach.
>
> Zak
>
>
>
>
>

>>trigger- to tach out of dist.
>>ground- should be self explainatory
>>Brake cut trigger- tie to output at brake pedal
>>Constant- fuse block of input to brake pedal
>>Ignition- fuse block ign. hot.
>>Illumination- grey wire to dash lights
>>Jim Bounds
>
>
>

 

[zachary zehnacker]

Paul,

The system you have seems like it would better handle the problems
associated with the sensing the tach. I guess the downside is that the
sending unit which connects to the speedo cable is a mechanical device
which could fail just like the original equipment one. The system that
senses the tach doesn't have this, and would therefor be less likely to
fail. The sending unit also probably makes the system more expensive than
one that just senses the tach.

Your system sounds like a good way to gain the additional features while
still keeping all of the qualities of the original system. This type would
seem to work better for our application (towing). Even slight
inclines/declines would seem to have an effect on a system that only senses
the tach for us because of the additional trailer weight.

Right now we don't have a cruise installed. The original one had problems
and would require significant physical modifications to hook up to the
throttle now that we have changed to the throttle body fuel injection. We
did, however, occasionally use the cruise before (only had the one car
trailer at the time) and are considering installing one again. How do
these new cruises hook up to throttle? I would think they would be much
more adaptable to our new configuration than the stock system would be.

Zak

>Jim:
>
>The Audivox cruise control (250-1076) I purchased, with slip-on handle
>(250-3032) (fits over a chopped turn signal lever) uses a speed pick-up
>unit(250-4153) that has a short cable end that installs at the transmission,
>followed by the original cruise control/speedometer cable, to sense speed.
>The pickup-up unit is connected electrically to the control control module.
>
>Doesn't the unit you install use the identical pick-up?
>
> Paul Bartz
>
>From: Jim Bounds
>Sent: 12/27/98 12:17 AM
>Subject: Re: GMC: Aftermarket Cruise Controls
>
>Zak,
>Good question, and the ones everyone asks.
>
>I feel a cruise control is for just as it says cruising. Down here in
>Florida, we do not have any hills that would tax the system. In a very
>hilly situation, such as going to the Marion rally, I experianced a 3-5
>MPH
>drop and rise in speed due to the hills which had no problem with. On
>larger hills, I assisted the cruise and gave the gas pedal a little
>nudge.
>I feel large hills usually require down shifting and I would want to
>take
>the helm at that point. I would kick off the cruise in those
>situations,
>call me too cautous or a flatlander who doesn't know how to drive in
>mountains but I do not use a cruise on big hills.
>If the tranny downshifts under cruise, the system shuts off via the
>speed
>sensing circuit, I like that!
>
>Another charistic of such a system is that it increases and decreases
>speed
>slowly as opposed to yanking the pedel as some systems do. I like the
>smooth transition which acts more like the name says "cruise".
>
>This system is not for you if you like the coach to kick down in cruise,
>climb steep hills without attention or take the gas pedel from you when
>it
>engages.
>
>It is inexpensive, reliable, easy to install and feature packed and if
>thats what you want, it is your answer.
>
>Thanks for bringing up the questions everyone has asked me in personal
>posts.
>
>Jim Bounds

 

[bartz paul]

Zak:

There is a sheathed cable coming out one end of the control module that you
connect to the throttle lever. The module and cable are anchored so that
the control module can control your speed.

Paul Bartz

- -----Original Message-----
From: Zachary Zehnacker
To: gmcmotorhome
Sent: 12/27/98 11:58 AM
Subject: RE: GMC: Aftermarket Cruise Controls

Paul,

The system you have seems like it would better handle the problems
associated with the sensing the tach. I guess the downside is that the
sending unit which connects to the speedo cable is a mechanical device
which could fail just like the original equipment one. The system that
senses the tach doesn't have this, and would therefor be less likely to
fail. The sending unit also probably makes the system more expensive
than
one that just senses the tach.

Your system sounds like a good way to gain the additional features while
still keeping all of the qualities of the original system. This type
would
seem to work better for our application (towing). Even slight
inclines/declines would seem to have an effect on a system that only
senses
the tach for us because of the additional trailer weight.

Right now we don't have a cruise installed. The original one had
problems
and would require significant physical modifications to hook up to the
throttle now that we have changed to the throttle body fuel injection.
We
did, however, occasionally use the cruise before (only had the one car
trailer at the time) and are considering installing one again. How do
these new cruises hook up to throttle? I would think they would be much
more adaptable to our new configuration than the stock system would be.

Zak

>Jim:
>
>The Audivox cruise control (250-1076) I purchased, with slip-on handle
>(250-3032) (fits over a chopped turn signal lever) uses a speed pick-up
>unit(250-4153) that has a short cable end that installs at the
transmission,
>followed by the original cruise control/speedometer cable, to sense
speed.
>The pickup-up unit is connected electrically to the control control
module.
>
>Doesn't the unit you install use the identical pick-up?
>
> Paul Bartz
>
>From: Jim Bounds
>Sent: 12/27/98 12:17 AM
>Subject: Re: GMC: Aftermarket Cruise Controls
>
>Zak,
>Good question, and the ones everyone asks.
>
>I feel a cruise control is for just as it says cruising. Down here in
>Florida, we do not have any hills that would tax the system. In a very
>hilly situation, such as going to the Marion rally, I experianced a 3-5
>MPH
>drop and rise in speed due to the hills which had no problem with. On
>larger hills, I assisted the cruise and gave the gas pedal a little
>nudge.
>I feel large hills usually require down shifting and I would want to
>take
>the helm at that point. I would kick off the cruise in those
>situations,
>call me too cautous or a flatlander who doesn't know how to drive in
>mountains but I do not use a cruise on big hills.
>If the tranny downshifts under cruise, the system shuts off via the
>speed
>sensing circuit, I like that!
>
>Another charistic of such a system is that it increases and decreases
>speed
>slowly as opposed to yanking the pedel as some systems do. I like the
>smooth transition which acts more like the name says "cruise".
>
>This system is not for you if you like the coach to kick down in
cruise,
>climb steep hills without attention or take the gas pedel from you when
>it
>engages.
>
>It is inexpensive, reliable, easy to install and feature packed and if
>thats what you want, it is your answer.
>
>Thanks for bringing up the questions everyone has asked me in personal
>posts.
>
>Jim Bounds

 

[jim bounds1]

Zak,
Pulling a heavy trailer might increase the speed variance on the tach.
pickup unit and your idea of using a speedo pickup might be a better
choice. Audiovox makes many units and many of them do have speedo pickups.
I have those available to me if you are interested. The unit I have been
describing if another style of system and is less expensive than the pick
up using systems.

Let me know if you need info on those systems and I'll make a call.

Jim Bounds
- -----------------------------

>Zak:
>
>There is a sheathed cable coming out one end of the control module that you
>connect to the throttle lever. The module and cable are anchored so that
>the control module can control your speed.
>
> Paul Bartz
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Zachary Zehnacker
>To: gmcmotorhome
>Sent: 12/27/98 11:58 AM
>Subject: RE: GMC: Aftermarket Cruise Controls
>
>Paul,
>
>The system you have seems like it would better handle the problems
>associated with the sensing the tach. I guess the downside is that the
>sending unit which connects to the speedo cable is a mechanical device
>which could fail just like the original equipment one. The system that
>senses the tach doesn't have this, and would therefor be less likely to
>fail. The sending unit also probably makes the system more expensive
>than
>one that just senses the tach.
>
>Your system sounds like a good way to gain the additional features while
>still keeping all of the qualities of the original system. This type
>would
>seem to work better for our application (towing). Even slight
>inclines/declines would seem to have an effect on a system that only
>senses
>the tach for us because of the additional trailer weight.
>
>Right now we don't have a cruise installed. The original one had
>problems
>and would require significant physical modifications to hook up to the
>throttle now that we have changed to the throttle body fuel injection.
>We
>did, however, occasionally use the cruise before (only had the one car
>trailer at the time) and are considering installing one again. How do
>these new cruises hook up to throttle? I would think they would be much
>more adaptable to our new configuration than the stock system would be.
>
>Zak
>
>
>
>
>

>>Jim:
>>
>>The Audivox cruise control (250-1076) I purchased, with slip-on handle
>>(250-3032) (fits over a chopped turn signal lever) uses a speed pick-up
>>unit(250-4153) that has a short cable end that installs at the
>transmission,
>>followed by the original cruise control/speedometer cable, to sense
>speed.
>>The pickup-up unit is connected electrically to the control control
>module.
>>
>>Doesn't the unit you install use the identical pick-up?
>>
>> Paul Bartz
>>
>>From: Jim Bounds
>>Sent: 12/27/98 12:17 AM
>>Subject: Re: GMC: Aftermarket Cruise Controls
>>
>>Zak,
>>Good question, and the ones everyone asks.
>>
>>I feel a cruise control is for just as it says cruising. Down here in
>>Florida, we do not have any hills that would tax the system. In a very
>>hilly situation, such as going to the Marion rally, I experianced a 3-5
>>MPH
>>drop and rise in speed due to the hills which had no problem with. On
>>larger hills, I assisted the cruise and gave the gas pedal a little
>>nudge.
>>I feel large hills usually require down shifting and I would want to
>>take
>>the helm at that point. I would kick off the cruise in those
>>situations,
>>call me too cautous or a flatlander who doesn't know how to drive in
>>mountains but I do not use a cruise on big hills.
>>If the tranny downshifts under cruise, the system shuts off via the
>>speed
>>sensing circuit, I like that!
>>
>>Another charistic of such a system is that it increases and decreases
>>speed
>>slowly as opposed to yanking the pedel as some systems do. I like the
>>smooth transition which acts more like the name says "cruise".
>>
>>This system is not for you if you like the coach to kick down in
>cruise,
>>climb steep hills without attention or take the gas pedel from you when
>>it
>>engages.
>>
>>It is inexpensive, reliable, easy to install and feature packed and if
>>thats what you want, it is your answer.
>>
>>Thanks for bringing up the questions everyone has asked me in personal
>>posts.
>>
>>Jim Bounds
>
>

 

[the hamiltons]

I was very interested in the discussion on cruise controls but am not
sure what the conclusion was. I may have come in late and not got all of the
information. I found the Autiovox CCs-100 in a local store but found it
doesn't replace the existing turn signal lever. It has a small set of
buttons that has to be attached somewhere. Is there a modification that
would allow us to replace the existing turn signal arm? Jim, what is your
$10.00 manual for?

Al Hamilton
76 Eleganza II

Kingston, Ont

 

[bartz paul]

Al:

In case you haven't received an answer to your question, here is what I sent
Dec 27th:

The Audiovox cruise control (250-1076) I purchased, with slip-on handle
(250-3032) (fits over a chopped turn signal lever) uses a speed pick-up
unit(250-4153) that has a short cable end that installs at the transmission,
followed by the original cruise control/speedometer cable, to sense speed.
The pickup-up unit is connected electrically to the control module.

Paul Bartz

From: The Hamiltons [mailto:hamilton]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 1999 9:55 PM
Subject: GMC: Aftermarket Cruise Controls

I was very interested in the discussion on cruise controls but am not
sure what the conclusion was. I may have come in late and not got all of the
information. I found the Autiovox CCs-100 in a local store but found it
doesn't replace the existing turn signal lever. It has a small set of
buttons that has to be attached somewhere. Is there a modification that
would allow us to replace the existing turn signal arm? Jim, what is your
$10.00 manual for?

 

[jim bounds1]

Hi,
Installing a new style cruise is not rocket sciecne, but anything you do
for the first time is an unknown. The manual I have for the CCS-100 is a
collection of solutions to mistakes I made over the many units I have
installed or a guide to help you bypass the mod problems you have in
putting it into a GMC motorhome. You do not need my manual but it might
help to have a guide to go by- thats all.

FYI, the unit states on the outside that it includes the magnet pickup set.
This is true but you will not use it, I used the magnets for noted on the
front of my frig at home.

Hope this helps.

Jim Bounds
- -----------------------

>Al:
>
>In case you haven't received an answer to your question, here is what I sent
>Dec 27th:
>
>The Audiovox cruise control (250-1076) I purchased, with slip-on handle
>(250-3032) (fits over a chopped turn signal lever) uses a speed pick-up
>unit(250-4153) that has a short cable end that installs at the transmission,
>followed by the original cruise control/speedometer cable, to sense speed.
>The pickup-up unit is connected electrically to the control module.
>
> Paul Bartz
>
>From: The Hamiltons [mailto:hamilton]
>Sent: Friday, January 01, 1999 9:55 PM
>Subject: GMC: Aftermarket Cruise Controls
>
> I was very interested in the discussion on cruise controls but am not
>sure what the conclusion was. I may have come in late and not got all of the
>information. I found the Autiovox CCs-100 in a local store but found it
>doesn't replace the existing turn signal lever. It has a small set of
>buttons that has to be attached somewhere. Is there a modification that
>would allow us to replace the existing turn signal arm? Jim, what is your
>$10.00 manual for?
>
>
>