6x6 GMC Motorhome

He says the gauges, 112 of them, alone cost $90,000
WTH do you do with 112 gauges a MH? are you measuring the voltage and current of every light bulb??
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> Oh dear.
> https://www.motor1.com/news/364339/custom-gmc-motorhome-6x6/
>
> Larry Davick

OMG

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Even if you had an valid reason for having 112 gauges (I'm not saying there is in this case), it is totally pointless to set all these gauges around
the driver. Driver will NOT have time or ability to monitor them and make any reasonable decisions based on any of the gauges showing any sort of
anomaly. Old (pre-digital) airplanes had lots of gauges, measuring every possible parameter for each of the engine. But they also had a dedicated
person, a flight engineer, who's job it was to monitor those gauges and make adjustment to the engine performance while the pilot was flying the damn
thing.

> He says the gauges, 112 of them, alone cost $90,000
> WTH do you do with 112 gauges a MH? are you measuring the voltage and current of every light bulb??
> ________________________________
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>

> > Oh dear.
> > https://www.motor1.com/news/364339/custom-gmc-motorhome-6x6/
> >
> > Larry Davick
>
>
> OMG
>
> Check out the complete photo album.
>
> https://www.instagram.com/gkfinishline/?utm_source=ig_embed
>
>
> --
> Steve Southworth
> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
> 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
> Palmyra WI
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And, while I don't have an accurate count, I'm positive that the C-130's I
flew for years had only a fraction of that many gauges! (The 15 or so I
have on my custom dash are really too many, but that C-130 background
probably influenced me.) :-)

Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, Troy-Bilt APU, etc., etc., etc.
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On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 1:54 PM Vadim Jitkov via Gmclist <

> Even if you had an valid reason for having 112 gauges (I'm not saying
> there is in this case), it is totally pointless to set all these gauges
> around
> the driver. Driver will NOT have time or ability to monitor them and make
> any reasonable decisions based on any of the gauges showing any sort of
> anomaly. Old (pre-digital) airplanes had lots of gauges, measuring every
> possible parameter for each of the engine. But they also had a dedicated
> person, a flight engineer, who's job it was to monitor those gauges and
> make adjustment to the engine performance while the pilot was flying the
> damn
> thing.
>
>

> > He says the gauges, 112 of them, alone cost $90,000
> > WTH do you do with 112 gauges a MH? are you measuring the voltage and
> current of every light bulb??
> > ________________________________
> > From: Gmclist on behalf of Steve Southworth via Gmclist
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 4:03 PM
> > To: gmclist
> > Cc: Steve Southworth
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 6x6 GMC Motorhome
> >

> > > Oh dear.
> > > https://www.motor1.com/news/364339/custom-gmc-motorhome-6x6/
> > >
> > > Larry Davick
> >
> >
> > OMG
> >
> > Check out the complete photo album.
> >
> > https://www.instagram.com/gkfinishline/?utm_source=ig_embed
> >
> >
> > --
> > Steve Southworth
> > 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
> > 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
> > Palmyra WI
> >
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Used to have an Uncle, WW 2 Fighter pilot, came home and flew bush pilot
and crop dusting in round motor bi-planes. He said all you need was an oil
pressure/temp gage, tachometer, and a turn and bank indicator. Eyes on the
horizon. He was hell on wheels, survived to old age.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Thu, Aug 15, 2019, 4:51 PM Ken Henderson via Gmclist <

> And, while I don't have an accurate count, I'm positive that the C-130's I
> flew for years had only a fraction of that many gauges! (The 15 or so I
> have on my custom dash are really too many, but that C-130 background
> probably influenced me.) :-)
>
> Ken H.
> Americus, GA
> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
> Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, Troy-Bilt APU, etc., etc., etc.
> www.gmcwipersetc.com
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 1:54 PM Vadim Jitkov via Gmclist <

>
> > Even if you had an valid reason for having 112 gauges (I'm not saying
> > there is in this case), it is totally pointless to set all these gauges
> > around
> > the driver. Driver will NOT have time or ability to monitor them and
> make
> > any reasonable decisions based on any of the gauges showing any sort of
> > anomaly. Old (pre-digital) airplanes had lots of gauges, measuring every
> > possible parameter for each of the engine. But they also had a dedicated
> > person, a flight engineer, who's job it was to monitor those gauges and
> > make adjustment to the engine performance while the pilot was flying the
> > damn
> > thing.
> >
> >

> > > He says the gauges, 112 of them, alone cost $90,000
> > > WTH do you do with 112 gauges a MH? are you measuring the voltage and
> > current of every light bulb??
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Gmclist on behalf of Steve Southworth via Gmclist
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 4:03 PM
> > > To: gmclist
> > > Cc: Steve Southworth
> > > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 6x6 GMC Motorhome
> > >

> > > > Oh dear.
> > > > https://www.motor1.com/news/364339/custom-gmc-motorhome-6x6/
> > > >
> > > > Larry Davick
> > >
> > >
> > > OMG
> > >
> > > Check out the complete photo album.
> > >
> > > https://www.instagram.com/gkfinishline/?utm_source=ig_embed
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Steve Southworth
> > > 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
> > > 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
> > > Palmyra WI
> > >
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> And, while I don't have an accurate count, I'm positive that the C-130's I flew for years had only a fraction of that many gauges! (The 15 or so
> I have on my custom dash are really too many, but that C-130 background probably influenced me.) :)
>
> Ken H.
> Americus, GA

Ken,

You are probably thinking of the flight instrument panel...
Google and look at the engineer's station. As the C-130 was turbo-shaft, that was much reduced from that of the C-124 Globemaster. Those had
instruments that you have never even heard of like BMEP (the first that comes to mind.)

Matt
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It's been a LONG time (like 49 years) since I flew the C-130. But IIRC,
the B,E, & H models I flew had about 20 instruments each for the pilot and
co-pilot (average between the two). In the center of the instrument panel
were 32 engine instruments, the primary focus of the flight engineer. The
flight engineer's overhead fuel panel had about 10 more fuel level gauges.
A total of about 82 gauges. The navigator's station carried a few more
gauges, but probably less than 10, IIRC.

Now circuit breakers! Man, did we ever have a bunch of those: 3 large
panels on each side of the cockpit, each probably holding 100+ CB's. Mind
boggling!

Ken H.

On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 9:02 PM Matt Colie via Gmclist <

> > And, while I don't have an accurate count, I'm positive that the C-130's
> I flew for years had only a fraction of that many gauges! (The 15 or so
> > I have on my custom dash are really too many, but that C-130 background
> probably influenced me.) :)
> >
> > Ken H.
> > Americus, GA
>
> Ken,
>
> You are probably thinking of the flight instrument panel...
> Google and look at the engineer's station. As the C-130 was turbo-shaft,
> that was much reduced from that of the C-124 Globemaster. Those had
> instruments that you have never even heard of like BMEP (the first that
> comes to mind.)
>
> Matt
> --
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> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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