2024 Fall GMCMI Rally

Having a great time here in Buellton, CA at the 2024 Fall GMCMI Rally.

Here's some pictures for y'all to enjoy since I know some of you aren't on the Facebook group.

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How many GMCs were at the convention?
 
Grace Kanomata said there were 50 GMC’s that attended. I visited the convention to drop off some parts for the auction but couldn’t stay long. The RV Park in Buellton is enormous and well maintained.
I had heard they hoped to have 80 in attendance. If only 50 showed up that would be the lowest attendance in GMCMI's history.

The first one I attended had 304. I was blown away seeing all those GMC motorhomes at the home of Winnebago.
1999 Fall304River Oaks Rally GroundForest City, Iowa

 
Had a amazing time at my first GMCMI Rally! It was so cool to finally meet in-person the people we only know from Facebook and the Forum. The Tech Talks were engaging, the games were fun, and the closing party was a blast!

Like all car clubs, GMCMI has seen declining membership as earlier more socially engaged generations age out and the internet makes information more accessible. At the GMCMI Membership meeting in Buellton I think Lucy said membership has dropped from 1500 in 2022 to 500 today.
 
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As I reluctant Millennial, I can confirm some of the generational differences. We like to share information freely, gather information freely, and don't like to pay for club memberships. GMCMI feels like a paywall--it's off-putting.

I'm not opposed to clubs at all, and I wouldn't say we're not socially engaged (we're not Gen Z'ers after all ;)

I look forward to attending a rally of some sort soon and would absolutely love to rub elbows with more GMC enthusiasts, but there's only so much I'm willing to pay for a "camping" weekend. I tend towards boondocking, compromise with the wife and pay "too much" for USFS campgrounds (where we already get 50% off) and would really struggle paying more than that for the right to park somewhere for a couple nights. When we select high-dollar facilities and the admission gets up into the hundreds of dollars on top of the already high fuel costs, my interest dwindles.

I see the allure of the information sessions over the decades, but many of us now would rather see a well-made YouTube video so we can access the info when/where it's pertinent to us. I can envision those information sessions becoming a thing of the past eventually.

There's no substitute for the organized work parties though. Those seem pretty neat to me.
 
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As I reluctant Millennial, I can confirm some of the generational differences. We like to share information freely, gather information freely, and don't like to pay for club memberships. GMCMI feels like a paywall--it's off-putting.

I'm not opposed to clubs at all, and I wouldn't say we're not socially engaged (we're not Gen Z'ers after all ;)

I look forward to attending a rally of some sort soon and would absolutely love to rub elbows with more GMC enthusiasts, but there's only so much I'm willing to pay for a "camping" weekend. I tend towards boondocking, compromise with the wife and pay "too much" for USFS campgrounds (where we already get 50% off) and would really struggle paying more than that for the right to park somewhere for a couple nights. When we select high-dollar facilities and the admission gets up into the hundreds of dollars on top of the already high fuel costs, my interest dwindles.

I see the allure of the information sessions over the decades, but many of us now would rather see a well-made YouTube video so we can access the info when/where it's pertinent to us. I can envision those information sessions becoming a thing of the past eventually.

There's no substitute for the organized work parties though. Those seem pretty neat to me.


I think it's like $45 for the online membership and the member vs non-member attendance fee at a Rally was more than that. I like the Rally's, so that pays for the membership in my mind at least. If I can make it to one a year or so I'm ahead.

Plus I'm sure there are other benefits including the newsletter.
 
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I think it's like $45 for the online membership and the member vs non-member attendance fee at a Rally was more than that. I like the Rally's, so that pays for the membership in my mind at least. If I can make it to one a year or so I'm ahead.

Plus I'm sure there are other benefits including the newsletter.
Trust me, I've heard all the sales pitches. It's falling in deaf ears. I'm just anti-dues and anti-subscription. Myself and my peers just find different means to collaborate. It's what's familiar. We don't get newspapers, magazines, newsletters...etc.

I definitely see the value in it for folks that operate that way. Information sharing and socialization has just changed for us.
 
Trust me, I've heard all the sales pitches. It's falling in deaf ears. I'm just anti-dues and anti-subscription. Myself and my peers just find different means to collaborate. It's what's familiar. We don't get newspapers, magazines, newsletters...etc.

I definitely see the value in it for folks that operate that way. Information sharing and socialization has just changed for us.
Most understand. Gmcmi is in transition…. Hopefully it gets people together. Although it can seem like a costly to attend, there is much value in it as far as food and entertainment. And meeting in person other owners from all walks of life and areas of country.

I have been fortunate that there was gmcmi rally’s close to me to attend. Last fall the trip to Michigan was a big one, but splitting cost with another gmc’r allowed me to attend.

As far as dues…. It’s a few espresso drinks a year. I dont think they are getting wealthy, but it takes some funds to operate and there are things that people dont realize that happen behind the scenes because of the networking gmcmi provides.

attendance was probably down a little in California because of location. But it looked like the event went well…. I would be surprised if anyone who attended is complaining. I hope it can only get better.

Now a gmcmi gathering is not something everyone can afford or have time
To attend. But I still think Local clubs are a great time too and invaluable. I know my gmc ownership life has been made possible by both local club and gmcmi people I have met. I have picked up parts and advice from all over the country.
 
I do hope to attend one someday, but I don't think I'll be a regular attendee. I was excited to see it hit the West Coast, but I wish it had been more central. NorCal might've tipped the scales for me.
 
As I reluctant Millennial, I can confirm some of the generational differences. We like to share information freely, gather information freely, and don't like to pay for club memberships. GMCMI feels like a paywall--it's off-putting.

I'm not opposed to clubs at all, and I wouldn't say we're not socially engaged (we're not Gen Z'ers after all ;)

I look forward to attending a rally of some sort soon and would absolutely love to rub elbows with more GMC enthusiasts, but there's only so much I'm willing to pay for a "camping" weekend. I tend towards boondocking, compromise with the wife and pay "too much" for USFS campgrounds (where we already get 50% off) and would really struggle paying more than that for the right to park somewhere for a couple nights. When we select high-dollar facilities and the admission gets up into the hundreds of dollars on top of the already high fuel costs, my interest dwindles.

I see the allure of the information sessions over the decades, but many of us now would rather see a well-made YouTube video so we can access the info when/where it's pertinent to us. I can envision those information sessions becoming a thing of the past eventually.

There's no substitute for the organized work parties though. Those seem pretty neat to me.
Paul,

GMCMI does not "hide" anything behind a paywall aside from the Part's interchange. Everything is freely downloadable. One of the things we're going to start trying here is a "value add" of sorts to the existing Black's List. By giving folks the ability to text multiple people on the Black's List in a given geographical area. We have to upgrade the website badly as it's 15 years out of date currently. And that of course costs money. The dues are very modest at only $45/year.

I hope you'll consider supporting the vision GMCMI has to keep all of this alive.
 
Had a amazing time at my first GMCMI Rally! It was so cool to finally meet in-person the people we only know from Facebook and the Forum. The Tech Talks were engaging, the games were fun, and the closing party was a blast!

Like all car clubs, GMCMI has seen declining membership as earlier more socially engaged generations age out and the internet makes information more accessible. At the GMCMI Membership meeting in Buellton I think Lucy said membership has dropped from 1500 in 2022 to 500 today.
The biggest "decline" in membership was actually getting the membership into a real database. Something that has been sorely lacking for many years. Actually organizing everything made reality far more realistic. We hope to stop the bleeding here. This first rally was the first hurrah. And many more to come. Glad to have met you guys out there. Awesome finally putting faces to names.
 
GMCMI does not "hide" anything behind a paywall aside from the Part's interchange
But that is indeed a paywall, yes?
Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate GMCMI's position. And this list was compiled in a way that had some overhead attached to it. I get that. I know it goes way back, and dues supported things as they evolved.

But these days, if it all started now, we'd need nothing but a free site like this one that's largely driven by ad revenue, volunteer efforts, and collaborative contributions. An interchange list getting started today would easily be done on a wiki. Anyone could contribute/update as needed, and it could be peer reviewed. That's just how some of us do things.

Please understand I'm not asking anyone to change anything at all. I'm also not trying to complain about the way things are, or be critical. Quite the contrary--I'm trying to be constructive. I'm trying to offer a view through a different lens. I'm half the age of many of GMCMI's long-time members. I did not grow up in a world without search engines, and I've spent most of my life with open-source software. We see things differently, and that's OK. I'm only trying to lend some insight--which may or may not be valuable--in case GMCMI wants to think about attracting younger members. Tragically, it seems we've been losing a lot of the GMC greats lately, and history shows that can only continue.

Believe it or not, among my peers I'm actually considered quite old-fashioned. I wouldn't be caught dead playing video games, and that seems to be the only hobby many of my peers participate in (how sad!). Most of them have never tinkered with a carburetor. So really, I sort of have my feet in both worlds.
 
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But that is indeed a paywall, yes?
Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate GMCMI's position. And this list was compiled in a way that had some overhead attached to it. I get that. I know it goes way back, and dues supported things as they evolved.

But these days, if it all started now, we'd need nothing but a free site like this one that's largely driven by ad revenue, volunteer efforts, and collaborative contributions. An interchange list getting started today would easily be done on a wiki. Anyone could contribute/update as needed, and it could be peer reviewed. That's just how some of us do things.

Please understand I'm not asking anyone to change anything at all. I'm also not trying to complain about the way things are, or be critical. Quite the contrary--I'm trying to be constructive. I'm trying to offer a view through a different lens. I'm half the age of many of GMCMI's long-time members. I did not grow up in a world without search engines, and I've spent most of my life with open-source software. We see things differently, and that's OK. I'm only trying to lend some insight--which may or may not be valuable--in case GMCMI wants to think about attracting younger members. Tragically, it seems we've been losing a lot of the GMC greats lately, and history shows that can only continue.

Believe it or not, among my peers I'm actually considered quite old-fashioned. I wouldn't be caught dead playing video games, and that seems to be the only hobby many of my peers participate in (how sad!). Most of them have never tinkered with a carburetor. So really, I sort of have my feet in both worlds.
And that absolutely is a great perspective. Everything still costs something however even taking into account everything being run by volunteers. This site for example, while free to you, costs Christo money to maintain and develop. I'm sure the meager ad revenue he gets here might pay for part of the domain name renewal every year. As for GMCMI, the domain name still needs to exist. The insurance needs to be paid for so we can hold these awesome rallies. We're trying to make sure everything is as cheap as it can be. Server space and development still costs money. That's true no matter where you look. And we've had stuff on the "free" sites before. And guess what? We lost a lot of valuable information because it disappeared the day the site owners decided to just walk away or shut their free service down. Nothing is ever free.
 
We hadn't been to California since 2008 so we were excited to return there. Going to North Carolina we're hoping will be a successful one as well. Our hope is to find a place in the Midwest for fall of 2025. Our Convention Manager is trying to get as many sites as he can so that people can plan accordingly. We're looking for sites across the US that we haven't been too so if you have any suggestions that would greatly be appreciated. Thanks for listening.
Lucy Weidner, President
GMCMI
Menomonie, WI
1978 Royale with 500 Cadillac engine
 
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If it were up to me, I'd open it all up including the Parts Interchange.

I must have misunderstood at some point along the way, I thought the parts interchange was already free and available to the public, they just need to register with gmcmi with a username/password.

I'm often wrong of course, as you all know lol
 
I must have misunderstood at some point along the way, I thought the parts interchange was already free and available to the public, they just need to register with gmcmi with a username/password.

I'm often wrong of course, as you all know lol
I feel like I was able to access it once and never again. I've had a lot of issues with the site and have kinda given up. I usually find newer part numbers that are still in stock places by searching the forums and Facebook. Tedious, but you can at least get a sense of when the info was posted/relevant.
 
I feel like I was able to access it once and never again. I've had a lot of issues with the site and have kinda given up. I usually find newer part numbers that are still in stock places by searching the forums and Facebook. Tedious, but you can at least get a sense of when the info was posted/relevant.
I attempted to bring up something on gmcmi.com site on my iPhone a few weeks ago and my wireless router issued an immediate Malware notification in Safari. It was a reference to gmcmi.net and not .com.

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