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Anybody got an idea what this thing is:

https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/rvs/6139898213.html

Mopar B or RB engine, which means TorqueFlite trans. If I can steal it, I'd like the engine and trans out of it.

--johnny
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76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
 
Johnny, it looks like a 413, which is the same family as the 383-440. If it
is, and a whole lot of them were used in trucks and motorhomes, it will
have a gear driven camshaft, not chain, and it will have a forged
crankshaft. Heavy duty valve rotators. Lots of good durable parts. I have a
MOPAR SHOP MANUAL THAT CAN I.D. it if you get me some casting numbers and
stamped in serial numbers.
Jim Hupy

On May 21, 2017 11:19 AM, "Johnny Bridges via Gmclist" <

Anybody got an idea what this thing is:

https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/rvs/6139898213.html

Mopar B or RB engine, which means TorqueFlite trans. If I can steal it,
I'd like the engine and trans out of it.

--johnny
--
76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased

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Know it's a B or RB, and 413s went in a lot of chassis used for RVs, later 440s were the move. Turns out it's in Calera AL. Guy bought a foreclosure
and this was on the property. If I can get the engine and trans away from him I'll go look - but I'd like to know more about the RV. He knows
nothing at all. For the gearheads, that engine family was built in 350, 361, 383 (2 versions), 400, 413, 426, and 440 CI versions, plus the 426
'hemi' of the 60s - 70s. I've only seen 413 and 440 in truck/rv chassis, but the others may of chown up here and there.

--johnny
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76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
 
Thanks. Looks sorta like a Travco, but no logo. Probably on the (missing) grill.

--johnny

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76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
 
I agree.

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Johnny

I think the coach ma be an early 60's Dodge - forerunner to Travco.

Dennis

> Anybody got an idea what this thing is:
>
> https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/rvs/6139898213.html
>
> Mopar B or RB engine, which means TorqueFlite trans. If I can steal it, I'd like the engine and trans out of it.
>
> --johnny

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73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro

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I think that it is an early Ray Frank motorhome. He started building motorhomes beginning in 1952 using a Dodge chassis in Brown City Michigan. The Frank motorhome evolved into the Dodge Motorhome and then in 1962 became the Travco motorhome. In the late 70's Travco was bought out by Foretravel

The one in your picture was not a Travco but likely was a Frank. At that time it may have been a 318 Dodge engine.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

>
> Thanks. Looks sorta like a Travco, but no logo. Probably on the (missing) grill.
>
> --johnny
>
> --
> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
>
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Emory, that is a B/RB engine. Look at the distributor mount, which is at the front passenger side of the engine. Both the 318 Polysphere and the 318
LA series Mopar engines mount the distributor upright nearly centered at the rear of the engine. The B/RB engines were made over the years in 350,
361, 383 (two different ones), 400, 413, 426, and 440 CI versions, plus the 426 'hemi' which is a somewhat modified RB. I've only ever seen the 413
and 440 fitted to RV chassis, though others may have been over the years. As Hupy pointed out, the 413 truck version had several heavy duty mods the
auto version didn't. Different cam drive, valve rotators, forged crankshaft. The RB was called the 'raised B' because the deck height of the casting
is higher - an inch I believe, although all the machining centers are the same on B and RB engines, which allowed the block castings to be machined on
the same transfer line - a substantial savings in capital spending.

--johnny
--
76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
 
It might be a 413 truck engine but the 440 didn't come out until 1964 I believe. That motorhome is probably older than that.

Emery Stora

>
> Emory, that is a B/RB engine. Look at the distributor mount, which is at the front passenger side of the engine. Both the 318 Polysphere and the 318
> LA series Mopar engines mount the distributor upright nearly centered at the rear of the engine. The B/RB engines were made over the years in 350,
> 361, 383 (two different ones), 400, 413, 426, and 440 CI versions, plus the 426 'hemi' which is a somewhat modified RB. I've only ever seen the 413
> and 440 fitted to RV chassis, though others may have been over the years. As Hupy pointed out, the 413 truck version had several heavy duty mods the
> auto version didn't. Different cam drive, valve rotators, forged crankshaft. The RB was called the 'raised B' because the deck height of the casting
> is higher - an inch I believe, although all the machining centers are the same on B and RB engines, which allowed the block castings to be machined on
> the same transfer line - a substantial savings in capital spending.
>
> --johnny
> --
> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
>
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It is at least a 1958 or later, by the 4 headlights. Probably borrowed
from a car or truck of the same time frame. Just a guess on my part as to
year.
Jim Hupy

It might be a 413 truck engine but the 440 didn't come out until 1964 I
believe. That motorhome is probably older than that.

Emery Stora

> On May 21, 2017, at 6:25 PM, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <

>
> Emory, that is a B/RB engine. Look at the distributor mount, which is at
the front passenger side of the engine. Both the 318 Polysphere and the 318
> LA series Mopar engines mount the distributor upright nearly centered at
the rear of the engine. The B/RB engines were made over the years in 350,
> 361, 383 (two different ones), 400, 413, 426, and 440 CI versions, plus
the 426 'hemi' which is a somewhat modified RB. I've only ever seen the 413
> and 440 fitted to RV chassis, though others may have been over the
years. As Hupy pointed out, the 413 truck version had several heavy duty
mods the
> auto version didn't. Different cam drive, valve rotators, forged
crankshaft. The RB was called the 'raised B' because the deck height of
the casting
> is higher - an inch I believe, although all the machining centers are the
same on B and RB engines, which allowed the block castings to be machined on
> the same transfer line - a substantial savings in capital spending.
>
> --johnny
> --
> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to
me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
>
>
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Looks like a cab from a fire truck (American LaFrance?) or maybe the same chassis as a pumper truck or tanker. After the cab is for someone more
knowledge than I to determine. Have to look at my old models to really check, but the front cab minus the visor reminds me of the fire truck chassis.
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Terry Kelpien

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73 Glacier 260

Smithfield, Va.
 
Yeah, the headlights look like off a Dodge pickup of the era. And the engine would make it about a '61, would it not? Unless they put 361CI B
engines in a few of them. A look at the numbers/ letters stamped on the distributor boss will tell. And it might be an engine swap. I can't find a
picture of one with those wheel cutouts though, although that may simply be a 'neck mod' someone did along the line. Somebody is gonna have to go
look at it. Jeremy??? :)

--johnny
--
76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
 
Emery, the 440CID RB was introduced in 1966, replacing the 426 CID wedge RB.

--johnny
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76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
 
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